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post 4 Jul 2017, 19:05
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Chiar spunea presa straina (sper ca nu la fel de 2 lei ca a noastra) ca acum se alimenteaza zvonurile ca FIA - Ferrari International Assistance. Ca nu l-a plesnit pe Vettel, ca e Todt acolo, etc...

Pana la urma, mie personal, imi ramane gustul amar al unei secvente care nu-si are locul in sport, indiferent cine ar fi fost protagonistul.


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post 6 Jul 2017, 10:01
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World Champion Peter Sagan has been disqualified from the Tour de France after he caused British cyclist Mark Cavendish to crash at the end of the fourth stage in Vittel.

The Slovak was initially given a 30-second penalty and docked 80 points in the green jersey competition. But after video analysis the judges convened a press conference to announce that the five-time green jersey winner would be sent home

Seamana la fix, o pedeapsa initiala, o reevaluare si apoi o decizie drastica. Aia au avut mai multe oua.


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post 6 Jul 2017, 10:15
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Ce rau real i-a facut Vettel? I-a dat de l-a julit... pe cauciuc radmasa.gif
Cu ce seamana la fix?! Ca-s 2 barbati intr-o competitie?


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post 6 Jul 2017, 10:21
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Putea fi mai nasol, daca Hamilton ar fi accelerat fix in acel moment, s-ar fi incalecat putin.

Ideea nu e de ce rau i-a facut, ca nu s-a intamplat nimic, ideea e ca e un gest total nesportiv, care nu se face, si trebuia scos un cartonas rosu.

Asa o sa ma intrebi ce rau i-a facut un jucator arbitrului prin faptul ca a strigat la el? Sau ca l-a injurat? Si totusi ia cartonas rosu. Daca tot am facut analogia, la fazele cu "fuck off Charlie" ar fi trebuit dat steag negru.

Pe principiul asta, ca nu i-a facut niciun rau, unde s-ar ajunge?


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post 6 Jul 2017, 10:32
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uhm... cam unde s-ar ajunge si daca te-ai gandi sa calci un pieton da' nu l-ai calca si totusi te-ar baga la zdup!?

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post 6 Jul 2017, 11:31
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Deci daca ma gandesc sa-l calc, dau cu masina la 1cm de el, l-am speriat dar totusi nu-l calc, e ok?


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post 6 Jul 2017, 11:58
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Pai ma intrebi? Ai citit regulamentul?


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post 6 Jul 2017, 12:31
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Intreb, avand in vedere afirmatia ta.


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post 6 Jul 2017, 12:39
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Te-njura aka iti ia 10s din timp si aia e.
Stii tu cati sperii pe zi?


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post 6 Jul 2017, 12:50
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post 6 Jul 2017, 12:57
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QUOTE(roland @ 6 Jul 2017, 11:01)
World Champion Peter Sagan has been disqualified from the Tour de France after he caused British cyclist Mark Cavendish to crash at the end of the fourth stage in Vittel.


Seamana la fix, o pedeapsa initiala, o reevaluare si apoi o decizie drastica. Aia au avut mai multe oua.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgwZsxukSL8

A dat intentionat cu cotul. S-a pedepsit intentia.

La Vettel nu s-a demonstrat intentia de a lovi, ci doar neglijenta.

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post 6 Jul 2017, 13:04
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QUOTE(centurion @ 6 Jul 2017, 13:57)
La Vettel, nu s-a demonstrat intentia de a lovi
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Doar de a-l injura tongue.gif. Si fiind pilot Ferrari, nu putea sa-l blagosloveasca fara sa dea si din maini, ca n-ar fi inteles fanii ce incerca sa zica. 04.gif


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post 6 Jul 2017, 14:36
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radmasa.gif

Datul din maini este obligatoriu la italieni. Este parte integranta din explicatii.
Tocmai de aceea volanul a ramas de capul lui si de aici faza de 'umar la umar' de pe circuit.


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post 7 Jul 2017, 07:31
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QUOTE(centurion @ 6 Jul 2017, 13:57)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgwZsxukSL8

A dat intentionat cu cotul. S-a pedepsit intentia.

La Vettel nu s-a demonstrat intentia de a lovi[B], ci doar neglijenta.
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Nu s-a demonstrat intentia de a lovi? radmasa.gif radmasa.gif radmasa.gif


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post 7 Jul 2017, 07:52
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Vedeti intrebarile de la conferinta de presa din Austria. L-au intrebat clar daca a sarit volanul singur... sau a tras de el intentionat. A dat-o din colt in colt ca nu intelege intrebarea. E pe site-ul oficial.


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post 7 Jul 2017, 08:15
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QUOTE(sb-55-dan @ 7 Jul 2017, 08:31)
Nu s-a demonstrat intentia de a lovi?  radmasa.gif  radmasa.gif  radmasa.gif
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Ce e de ras? Tu ai vazut intentia de a lovi ?
Arata-mi inregistrarea cu momentul in care Vettel trage de volan ca sa il loveasca intentionat pe Hamilton.


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Vedeti intrebarile de la conferinta de presa din Austria. L-au intrebat clar daca a sarit volanul singur... sau a tras de el intentionat. A dat-o din colt in colt ca nu intelege intrebarea. E pe site-ul oficial.
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Am citit .... m-am plictisit de cate intrebari au primit amandoi despre incident.


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post 7 Jul 2017, 10:50
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Cum nu a avut intentie? Te inteleg ca esti fan Ferrari/Vettel dar totusi cum sa nu vezi intentia CLARA de a-l lovi?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuPPHgF0xEM
La secunda 6-7 ce face? Ii mangaie roata? radmasa.gif

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post 7 Jul 2017, 11:03
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Tu realizezi ca-i un circuit stradal, pe care caseta de directie e si mai "stransa". Si ca oricum caseta aia de directie, cu ~jumate de invartire de volan ajunge la bracaj maxim.

Orice scapare, mai ales una in care iei o mana de pe volan, si nu te mai uiti in fata duce la asa ceva. Asa ca n-o fost rautate, o fost prostie. No, esti mai multumit? Viata ta este mai implinita acum?


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post 7 Jul 2017, 11:25
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Inclusiv Vettel a recunoscut intentia de a-l lovi. Ce mai e de discutat?


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post 7 Jul 2017, 11:40
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Nimic.
Cu putin noroc data viitoare si-o serveste gayutu' de unu' singur wink.gif


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post 7 Jul 2017, 12:43
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QUOTE(sb-55-dan @ 7 Jul 2017, 11:50)
Cum nu a avut intentie? Te inteleg ca esti fan Ferrari/Vettel dar totusi cum sa nu vezi intentia CLARA de a-l lovi?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuPPHgF0xEM
La secunda 6-7 ce face? Ii mangaie roata?  radmasa.gif
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Eu nu am spus CA NU L-A LOVIT! Am spus ca nu exista INTENTIA de a-l lovi. A stat cu mana stanga in aer, se uita doar la Hamilton (fara sa-i pese de nimic altceva), cu dreapta a tras de volan sa se apropie de Hamilton si (a tras atat de brusc incat) a intrat (ca boul) in el.

QUOTE(sb-55-dan @ 7 Jul 2017, 12:25)
Inclusiv Vettel a recunoscut intentia de a-l lovi. Ce mai e de discutat?
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Vreau sa vad asta! Unde a declarat asta?
Astept un link cu declaratia lui Vettel in care recunoaste asta!



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post 7 Jul 2017, 12:48
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post 7 Jul 2017, 13:02
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Daca doresti sa citesti, nu a recunoscut intentia, nu a negat-o, nu a zis ca i-a sarit volanul... E destul de clar. Informatiile le gasesti pe site-ul oficial.

7 Jul 2017, 13:19:
Uite, te ajut eu cu un link, daca nu ai reusit sa-l gasesti: https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/headline...---austria.html

Si niste citate:

Q: (Peter Farkas – Auto Motor) Sebastian, of course I respect what you said that you wouldn’t want this topic to drag and drag – but there’s one interesting question. There are some suggestions that you didn’t deliberately move onto Lewis’ car and it was only because you were just showing the gestures that we all know about and it was unintentional. Was it really intentional to crash into Lewis or it was only that you didn’t really pay any attention to the steering?

SV: It’s a very confusing question. I think it’s very simple: obviously, I got surprised. I got the impression at the time – which I have corrected: I was wrong – that I got, let’s say, fouled and y’know I wasn’t happy about it. I drove alongside him, obviously wasn’t happy about it, over-reacted. I don’t think I need to explain further. I think it’s very clear. You all saw what happened, so… yeah. Not sure I get the question.

Mr. Centurion, daca era cum zici tu, raspunsul era simplu: "It was unintentional". Dar Vettel nu a inteles intrebarea...
PS: Daca ma intrebi cu cine tin in F1... Cu Ferrari si, dintre cei doi piloti, putin mai mult cu Raikkonen.

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post 7 Jul 2017, 13:23
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Citisem deja si, pe deasupra, am si inteles ce a declarat.

'nu a recunoscut intentia, nu a negat-o, nu a zis ca i-a sarit volanul... E destul de clar' - ce anume este clar din ceea ce ai scris? Ca a vrut sa loveasca?
Fiecare interpreteaza ceea ce vrea. Crezi ca evitarea unui raspuns direct inseamna ca intentionat a facut-o? Putea sa spuna foarte bine: 'NU, nu am vrut sa-l lovesc'. Imaginile inregistrate il ajuta pentru un asemenea raspuns. Dar nu a vrut sa spuna nici asta (adica sa nege intentia). Inseamna automat un DA tacit?

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Asta e tot ce poti? Slabut.

7 Jul 2017, 14:42:
Apropo Roland, sa ramanem la Ferrari, vrei sa stii ce consider eu intentie? Schumacher (da, e pilotul meu favorit) - Villeneuve, 1997 Jerez. Ala a fost un gest total nesportiv al lui Schumacher si ma bucur pentru descalificarea din acel sezon. Compara ce a facut atunci Schumacher cu ceea ce a facut acum Vettel.





(Nu mai spun de Senna - Prost in 1999).

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post 7 Jul 2017, 14:03
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Zic sa va abtineti de la atacuri la persoana, nu e elegant.

Schumacher... da, a vrut clar atunci sa-l plesneasca pe Villeneuve si l-au pedepsit drastic. A meritat si a mai facut el multe altele, unele pedepsite mai mult, altele mai putin. Si eu am tinut cu el, mi s-a parut foarte bun pilot.

Vettel a fost mai cumintel, dar cred ca se impunea o penalitate mai mare, steag negru sau taierea punctelor castigate.


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post 29 Apr 2018, 20:08
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Despre cum se poate transforma o victorie intr-un loc 4 ... doar Vettel poate reusi. Totul plecand de la copilulul de aur al F1 si talent inca neslefuit: Verstappen.


Cateva puncte si pentru Alfa Romeo.


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Pana acum e destul de simplu: broscarii sunt clar peste merci. Dar the cenzurat verstappen face spectacol. Si vettelul o ia in barba iar rbr isi lasa pilotii sa "race". Hai ca am ajuns prin mai si e cazul si rai sa o lase balta.

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Si eu sunt de parere ca Verstappen a creat mult prea multe incidente. Nu mai poti spune ca e o intamplare sau lipsa de experienta. Problema e ca i se permit prea multe incalcari de regulament.


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