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Liviu
post 29 Aug 2006, 13:58
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Sa incepem cu inceputul.

Un Logan oarecare smile.gif
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Marcam cu niste banda adeziva locurile aproximative unde se vor monta senzorii (eu am folosit power tape)
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Se masoara distanta din pasaj in pasaj (ale rotilor, evident) si se stabileste pozitia senzorilor astfel incat sa fie simetrica.
Senzorii de pe colturi se vor monta la inceputul curburii spoilerului ca sa acopere corect coltul. Pozitia pe verticala am ales-o la jumatatea partii plane a benzii negre.
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post 29 Aug 2006, 14:10
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Folosind freza din kitul senzorilor si o bormasina electrica se dau gaurile pentru senzori.
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Se indeparteaza banda adeziva
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si apoi se curata marginile gaurilor de bavuri.
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Locul pe unde vor intra firele de la senzori in portbagaj se vede in poza urmatoare. Este vorba de acea supapa care permite iesirea aerului presurizat la inchiderea portierelor sau a portbagajului.
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Se pregateste "unealta" de tras firele prin spoiler (adica o sarma din cupru sau aluminiu dura sau <<cu miezul plin>> cum i se mai spune).
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Folosindu-se unealta descrisa mai sus se trage sarma primului senzor (coltul stanga spate) pana la gaura vecina (mijloc-stanga).
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Apoi se fixeaza primul senzor. Atentie ca senzorii au buza nesimetrica permitand pozitionarea lor pe suprafete care nu sunt perfect verticale, astfel incat senzorul in sine sa "bata" orizontal.
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post 29 Aug 2006, 14:21
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Folosind aceeasi unealta complexa descrisa mai sus, se trage firul primului senzor din gaura in gaura pana ajunge sa iasa pe gaura din extrema dreapta. Se procedeaza la fel si cu urmatorii doi senzori.

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Se leaga cele trei fire impreuna si se adauga si firul celui de-al 4-lea senzor.
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SE introduce unealta aceea complicata prin gaura supapei din portbagaj si se aduc cele 4 fire inauntru.
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In poza anterioara se poate vedea bucatica de tabla parca pusa special acolo ca sa tina niste cabluri. In poza aceasta se vede acea bucatica de tabla pusa la treaba smile.gif.
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Se trece la montarea afisorului. Kitul de senzori utilizat de mine are afisorul in oglinda retrovizoare, oglinda ce se clipseaza pe oglinda originala a masinii.
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post 29 Aug 2006, 14:27
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Deci cam asa arata oglinda montata si firul pus pe langa plafon.
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Urmatoarele fotografii arata "drumul" firului de la display pana in portbagaj.
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Si in sfarsit iata-ne ajunsi in portbagaj.
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post 29 Aug 2006, 14:39
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Se pozitioneaza frumos firul in portbagaj pana iese langa supapa cu pricina.
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Se descopera mufa triplei spare-dreapta unde se gaseste becul de marche-arriere.
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Se fac cuplarile senzorilor si a afisajului la unitatea centrala.
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Aceasta se fixeaza pe peretele interior al portbagajului folosind benzile dublu-adezive din kit. E de preferat sa se aranjeze si firele senzorilor in asa fel incat sa nu atarne aiurea prin portbagaj.
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Se pune contactul, se baga masina in marche-arriere si se masoara care sunt firele care comanda becul de mers cu spatele.
Se iau firele de alimentare ale unitatii centrale si se infig in mufa in asa fel incat sa nu faca scurt circuit. Nu este nevoie sa se "ciupeasca" firele originale ale masinii caci curentul consumat de senzorii de parcare este foarte mic si o rezistenta de contact posibila daca se pun firele ca in poza nu ii afecteaza.
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post 29 Aug 2006, 14:47
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Cam asa arata mufa montata la locul ei cu tot cu firele "capusa".
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Se strang uneltele si se face o verificare "la rece" a sistemului (adica se pune masina in marche-arriere si se testeaza fiecare senzor in parte).
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Urmeaza proba reala ....
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Cam asta este tot smile.gif ... succes celor pasionati de "home made stuff".

Imi pare rau dar am uitat sa fac o poza cu kitul inainte de a fi pus pe masina asa ca daca are cineva ceva similar este rugat sa imi trimita o poza.

Mai pe seara am sa atasez si o poza cu display-ul in functiune caci am uitat si asta smile.gif ... deh, varsta sleep.gif .

Multumiri lui Klaus care mi-a descris initial procedura aplicata de el ca sa nu fac prostii smile.gif.


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post 29 Aug 2006, 16:45
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multumim de prezentare, chiar ma bate si pe mine gandu sa-mi pun... astept poze cu display-ul in functiune wink.gif


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post 29 Aug 2006, 17:08
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Multe mii de multumiri fotografului care a imortalizat acesta epopee biggrin.gif si bine inteles mesterului si povestitorului.


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post 29 Aug 2006, 17:12
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Scuze, multumiri lui zodrac ca el a stat cu aparatul in mana sa faca poze smile.gif ...


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post 29 Aug 2006, 17:26
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post 29 Aug 2006, 17:30
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Pot sa ajut eventualii doritori dar numai in weekend si numai in Bucuresti.

Iata si pozele promise :

Asa arata oglinda "stinsa" :
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Si asa este in mod "activ" :
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De mentionat ca sub afisor se afla 4 led-uri care indica senzorul cel mai apropiat de obstacol. In fotografie se vede led-ul aferent senzorului mijloc-dreapta.


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post 30 Aug 2006, 10:13
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Ce marca e chitul?Ca pare bun.Si pretul?


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post 30 Aug 2006, 13:09
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Care e rezolutia unei astfel de jucarii? Ce distanta minima imi poate arata? Eu parchez cu spatele la 1-5 cm de zidul unui bloc si m-ar interesa daca e in stare sa-mi spuna ca mai sunt 3, 2, 1, poc cm biggrin.gif


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post 30 Aug 2006, 14:12
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cele mai performante sisteme de parcare au distanta minima de avertizare de 10 cm.

asta din poza are rezolutia de 1 cm si distanta minima (la care bipaie continuu) e de 0.35M .. sub aceasta distanta afisorul arata 0.00.


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post 30 Aug 2006, 14:33
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Multumesc Liviu.

Imi e inutil in cazul asta sad.gif Ramane sa bipai eu cand mai sunt 3 cm laugh.gif

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post 30 Aug 2006, 14:43
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Pai asa trebuie sa se comporte, ca nu-s senzori speciali pentru parcat la perete... E normal sa aiba o rezerva de spatiu.

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post 30 Aug 2006, 15:26
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Pai daca erau in stare sa-mi arate din 2 in 2 cm sa zicem.... eram si eu in stare sa-mi calculez rezerva de spatiu. Asa 35 cm cat stiu ei sa masoare pot si eu aproxima... chiar am sensibilitate mai mare decat ei biggrin.gif Deci chiar nu merita 2 milioane sau cat or fi. Cel putin d.p.m.d.v. wink.gif

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Daca poti sa apreciezi singur atunci cand parchezi cu spatele in botul unui Cielo, atunci clar ca n-ai nevoie de senzori. La Cielo bara este foarte pronuntata fata de grila radiatorului, si foarte joasa. Iar senzorii aia au raza de actiune sub forma unui con, asa ca atunci cand ajungi aproape de masina ei nu mai depisteaza bara, ci grila radiatorului. Si se intampla numai cu Cielo, ci si cu multe alte masini atunci cand masina ta nu e in acelasi plan cu cealalta (de ex., cand o urci pe bordura si e ridicata de fund etc.).


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arata f bine:) dar merita?si chiar a fost ceva efort sa postezi aici:)


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Am montat si eu modelul din Carrefour Magic Mirror. Merci de tutorial!

Problema ar fi ca la mine vibreaza destul de urat oglinda de la bass (am un sub de 150W), nu tre' sa ascult la maxim ca tot vibreaza destul de tare...


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As vrea sa-i multumesc si eu lui Liviu, pe baza tutorialului lui, am reusit sa-mi montez si eu cu succes senzorii de parcare. 10X wink.gif


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am si eu un kit oglinda+senzori..dar de ceva timp ba merge ba nu merge. am crezut ca nu se mai alimenteaza, dar am masurat tensiunea pe cablul de alimentare si primeste curent. unde pot sa fac o verificare? sau cum pot sa o verific?


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care sunt cele 2 locase din mufa care dau curent la becul de marsarier? 1 cu 4? daca da care e + si care e - ? (nu am aparat de masura biggrin.gif:D:D) mersi fain....


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Desfaci tripla si te uiti la trasee. Este cel mai sigur.


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Man ms fain ... esti cel mai tare... am reusit sa-mi montez senzorii dupa indicatiile tale in mai putin de juma' de ora wink.gif ms fain... mai baga aici tutoriale daca mai ai ... multa bafta

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Iata ce a iesit:

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senzorii motatii in partea din fata a masinii se alimenteaza de oriunde?


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