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jovanmk
post 31 Dec 2006, 01:27
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I don't have momentally fuel consumption on my on board computer. I have new Logan Laureate Plus with full equipment. If anybody knows why I don't have this option?
I've heard because this option (instant) fuel consumption is removed in new logan collection, but do anybody knows can I restore this function - probably by connecting PCB on COM port with other PC and update the software. Other way I have for an week dacia logan laureate fully equiped and I'm satisfy with him (for the money it's worth).

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post 31 Dec 2006, 11:33
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Just press the button on the end of your Windscreen wiper Stick and you will see it change through all of the OBC settings
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post 31 Dec 2006, 11:39
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As far as I know, for the Logan "new collection" the onboard computer does not show any more the instant consumption.


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post 31 Dec 2006, 11:45
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Lets not forget that the Instant consumption only shows when the Vehicle is moving
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post 31 Dec 2006, 12:44
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The trip computer on the new Logan does not show instant fuel consumption. If it would have instant fuel consumption then it would only show it when your driving faster than 30 km/h.


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post 3 Jan 2007, 16:24
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Hi!

QUOTE(mem @ 31 Dec 2006, 12:39)
As far as I know, for the Logan "new collection" the onboard computer does not show any more the instant consumption.
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I'm afraid you are right. I have this "new" Logan and also have no instant consumption readouts.
Could you point me to the source of this information?

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post 3 Jan 2007, 16:28
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I think that is Stupid of Daciai to do that What is the use of an OBC that does not cover everything
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post 3 Jan 2007, 16:32
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elk84 - there is no official statement from Dacia regarding this...


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post 3 Jan 2007, 18:46
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... the unofficial explanation is that they concluded that it had to be removed because of the large number of complaints regarding "very high fuel consumption, up to 25 l / 100 km". And they removed it because there was a large number of morons that could not tell the difference between "average fuel consumption" and "momentarily fuel consumption".


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post 3 Jan 2007, 18:49
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I can thrash my Logon on a real steep hill and not get over a 11 ltrs
reading. It shows everything on the OBC and is very accurate .But the Speedo is not

Stu

My Logan is a Laureate 14 mpi with all but Ac it is 9 months old excl.gif

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post 3 Jan 2007, 19:02
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Hey, I'm goin' to buy this beauty:
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post 3 Jan 2007, 19:21
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post 3 Jan 2007, 19:45
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On leasing.
And when I say: I'm goin' to buy... That means that my father is going to buy..., not me. OK?


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post 3 Jan 2007, 20:35
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Thats Better young man.
we was getting worried that Kids would start driving around in Grown ups cars
and leaving there Bobby cars in the garden radmasa.gif
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ha ha ha ha...
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post 3 Jan 2007, 20:50
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English Humour
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post 5 Jan 2007, 13:52
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New Logan (2007) doesn't show instant consumption. Mine, at least. You can read in Manual that some cars have this option, not all.

But, as I has said in topic "Logan owner problems", sometimes average fuel consumption goes crazy and starts showing reads that seems to be instant fuel consumption. I don't know why or which or when something happens to make on board computer go crazy.

Somebody knows?

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post 5 Jan 2007, 18:37
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Heavy right feet play hell with OBCs
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post 8 Jan 2007, 18:11
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What do you mean with "Heavy right feet play hell with OBCs"?

When average fuel consumption goes crazy and starts showing reads very high car is stopped, when you run, reads go down.


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post 8 Jan 2007, 18:22
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Then it is Knackered because it should show 0 0 when the car is stopped
so if it is under warranty take it back
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post 8 Jan 2007, 21:45
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QUOTE(titoasturies @ 8 Jan 2007, 17:11)
What do you mean with "Heavy right feet play hell with OBCs"?

When average fuel consumption goes crazy and starts showing reads very high car is stopped, when you run, reads go down.
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Maybe the problem is caused by resetting the OBC too often, then it actually serves as an instant consumption indicator, untill it averages sufficiently! And yes, it changes reading even when car is stopped if the engine is running - time is running, engine is burning fuel, but the road is standing, so your consumption indication gets worse and worse wink.gif!


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post 8 Jan 2007, 21:50
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It will show NO reading when the motor is on Tickover
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post 8 Jan 2007, 22:32
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OK folks, here we go again...

On the Logans with OBC that has the "instant consumption" feature: it will display a value only if speed is greater than 30 kph. On idle it shows "- - -".

The average consumption will be calculated and displayed (after a reset) after the car has been travelling over 450 meters. Longer periods of time between resets will increase the accuracy of the average consumption. When idling the value of the average consumption will increase. (the average fuel consumption is calculated in liters per 100 km so if you stay at idle the car will burn fuel but will be going nowhere so the numbers will go up)



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post 6 Mar 2007, 17:52
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Many new owners of Dacia, noticed that the actual fuel-consumption is no longer on the OBC . If you have bought the car somewhere between the end of 2006 and end of january 2007 , by that time Dacia still showed in their brochures that this option was on the OBC. But thats not what you actualy get!! In February Dacia changed their brochures!! So every-one who bought a car in that period, should complain. As a result of complaining some guys in the Netherlands got a assesoir-cheque of 250 Euros offered by Dacia-Netherland for compensation!! I tried yesterday, untill now without any result...Still hoping that I can get the same compensation.

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post 10 Mar 2007, 22:43
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I have found following information about some kind of diagnostic (or it looks like):
"
Dacă numai indicația de autonomie carburant este
înlocuită cu liniuțe clipitoare și dacă martorul luminos
pentru alertă nivel minim de carburant se aprinde,
aceasta indică un defect al informației jojă timp de mai
mult de 100 s consecutive.
Dacă defectul dispare, martorul luminos pentru alertă
nivel minim de carburant se stinge și segmentele
indicatorului de carburant urcă (exceptând cazul în
care nivelul de carburant este la minim).
În plus față de semnalarea unui defect prin clipirea
afișajului sau disfuncționarea segmentelor
receptorului, calculatorul de bord păstrează pana în
memorie nevolatilizată.
În aceste cazuri diferite, procedați la secvența
diagnosticare pentru a vizualiza memorarea penelor
senzori.
Calculatorul de bord prezintă un program de test
(secvență diagnosticare):
- a diferitelor segmente ale afișajului,
- a senzorilor utilizați (jojă carburant, informație debit).

2 - Secvență diagnosticare
Pentru a avea acces la secvența diagnosticare,
mențineți apăsată tasta « ADAC » în capătul manetei
ștergătorului de geam și puneți contactul fără să porniți
motorul.
În timpul întregului mod diagnosticare, acul
indicatorului de viteză baleiază cadranul său pentru
vitezele 10, 50, 90, 130, 170 km/h.
În același fel și în același timp, acul indicatorului de
turație motor baleiază cadranul său pentru turațiile de
1000, 2000, 3000, 4000, 5000, 6000, 7000 rot/min.
Aceste două baleieri se efectuează periodic prin salt în
fiecare secundă în sens crescător, apoi în sens
descrescător.
Testul afișaj cu cristale lichide apare (L).
Toate segmentele afișajului cu cristale lichide trebuie
să fie aprinse.
Pentru a trece la următorul test, apăsați pe tasta (1).
Testul cantitate de carburant rămas în rezervor
apare (K).
Valoarea afișată trebuie să corespundă cantității de
carburant rămas în rezervor în litri.
Pentru a trece la următorul test, apăsați pe tasta (1).
Testul debit de carburant în litri/oră apare (motor pornit)
(J) (versiune « ADAC »).
Valoarea trebuie să fie afișată cu motorul pornit.
"
I will be very happy if someone wants to translate it.



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post 10 Mar 2007, 23:02
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So would I radmasa.gif
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post 27 Mar 2007, 15:42
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It says that if you want to enter diagnose mode:

push the buton on the windscreen wiper before you turn the key.
While pushing the button, turn the key but do not start the car.
The computer goes in diagnose mode. The needles start moving gradually, and the screen shows some information.
By pushing the same button repeatedly you can set the computer to show the actual gas in the tank (in Litres) and after that the hourly fuel consomption.

That's it.

To stop the diagnose just turn back the key.

The first part says something about the screen flickering to show that there is an error somewhere, and that the error is saved in a nonvolatile memory and can be seen afterwards. I don't know if the the error can be seen in the diagnose mode described above or only if you use the special diagnose program and a Laptop.


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