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post 23 Jun 2007, 00:47
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Toate daciile mai noi, au raportul vitezei 5, de 0,76... si al meu break indica 115-120km/h la 3000 rpm. Viteza reala este insa 110 km/h
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La 4500 rpm sunt de parere ca nu e viteza de scos flapsurile, unii au atins-o, dar eu n-am sarit de 4200 de turatii niciodata si asta datorita raportului lung care nu lasa motorul sa ajunga in turatia de putere maxima.
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post 23 Jun 2007, 19:29
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Nu am zis ca nu atinge viteza...dar la galagia aia ai impresia ca se dezmembreaza.Si eu am avut berlina si stiu despre ce vorbesc.Si am facut referire strict la vitezometru ca arata eronat


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post 23 Jun 2007, 19:32
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QUOTE(tedy @ 23 Jun 2007, 20:29)
Si eu am avut berlina si stiu despre ce vorbesc.
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Am unele rezeve in privinta asta.


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post 23 Jun 2007, 21:01
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Ma rog...eu m-am referit la cutia ei originala,fara pinioane schimbate,raportul turatie-viteza,in a-5-a la 3000 ai 100km/h.Daca s-a inlocuit ceva in cutie,atunci ma abtin.


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post 23 Jun 2007, 21:04
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Si eu tot de cutie originala am zis, care la 3000 de ture arata 120 km/h.
Ceea ce tu nu accepti, este faptul ca exista mai mult tipuri de cutii.


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post 23 Jun 2007, 21:19
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Original si eu aveam la 3000rpm 100km/h.Cu rap 0.86.Pe care l-am schimbat cu 0.76.Si nu e atat de zgomotoasa.Eu merg cu ea cu 120-130km/h mereu afara si atinge si 140km/h(repet,si pe gpl)(pe ceas)destul de "usor".Si e din 1973.Dar intretinuta asa cum trebuie.


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post 24 Jun 2007, 21:43
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Aha,acum am inteles,multumesc


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post 2 Jul 2007, 21:46
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Pentru cine e interesat sa schimbe viteza a 5 a la Golan ma poate cauta pe nr de tel de pe PM sau pe mail


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post 2 Jul 2007, 22:39
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Pai bine bine, dar eu zic ca meritam mai multe detalii tehnice aici, nu pe PM sau mail.


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post 3 Jul 2007, 18:10
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flor-yan69 Ai pm. biggrin.gif


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post 3 Jul 2007, 23:03
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Detaliile tehnice le-ati dezbatut prea mult in topicul acesta si nenea Klaus v-a oferit un tabel din care va calculati rapoartele de transmisie pt viteza a 5 a cu pinioanele originale si apoi cu cele pentru motorina dupa care daca nu sunteti convinsi intrebati un inginer (daca se pricepe) .Eu va ofer posibilitatile practice adica piesele si mina de lucru.Pot spune cu certitudine ca aici la Mioveni se practica des aceasta modificare si nimeni nu e nemultumit.


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post 4 Jul 2007, 08:00
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QUOTE(vis-a-vis @ 23 Jun 2007, 00:47)
Toate daciile mai noi, au raportul vitezei 5, de 0,76...
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Nu-i adevarat, majoritatea de dupa 2000, adica cu injectie au 0.82/0.86, 0.76 s-a folosit la Nova, si cateodata la break.


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post 4 Jul 2007, 08:54
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De 0,82 n-am auzit. nedumerire.gif
Din cate dacii am mers eu (si sunt destule) cele in 5 trepte, toate dupa '96, mi-au indicat 110-120 la 3000 de ture (turatia mea de croaziera).

4 Jul 2007, 10:23:
Sa ne zici si noua ce numar de dinti au cele doua pinioane ale caror raport e 0,82 nedumerire.gif

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post 4 Jul 2007, 12:06
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0.82 parca avea Diaconuliviu la o cutie de pe un papuc.. o sa-l intreb.


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post 4 Jul 2007, 13:04
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La berlina, un document mai vechi:
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Si un document mai nou:
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Si unul de pe papuc:
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post 4 Jul 2007, 13:30
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Adica-i de bula? radmasa.gif


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post 4 Jul 2007, 21:31
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Nu exista 0,82.In schimb am mers cu o berlina din 2003 si avea 0,86.La 3000rpm avea 100km/h.Nu stiu ce le-a venit sa le scurteze din nou ultimul raport. sad.gif


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post 11 Jul 2007, 20:40
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Maine o execut(modificarea).Revin cu impresii dupa... biggrin.gif


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post 17 Jul 2007, 08:18
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A trecut maine... nedumerire.gif


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post 21 Jul 2007, 19:03
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N-am mai ajuns la mecanic si a doua zi am plecat la munte.Acum astept sa se potoleasca putin gradele si ma duc.


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post 21 Jul 2007, 19:04
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post 21 Jul 2007, 19:07
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QUOTE(vis-a-vis @ 23 Jun 2007, 00:47)
Toate daciile mai noi, au raportul vitezei 5, de 0,76... si al meu break indica 115-120km/h la 3000 rpm. Viteza reala este insa 110 km/h


La 4500 rpm sunt de parere ca nu e viteza de scos flapsurile, unii au atins-o, dar eu n-am sarit de 4200 de turatii niciodata si asta datorita raportului lung care nu lasa motorul sa ajunga in turatia de putere maxima.

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dupa regula de trei simpla la 4200 ai avut cam 160-165 kmh , esti sigur ca ai atins 4200 rpm cu 0,76 pe a 5a? wacko.gif


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post 21 Jul 2007, 19:11
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Fiule, aici nu se dau aproximari ochiometrice, vezi ca ai o poza cu viteza reala in acelasi post. wink.gif
La vale si cu vantu-n spate urci si la 155 la ora, mare branza...

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post 21 Jul 2007, 19:18
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Pana la urma nu ne-ai spus(sau imi scapa mie),ai cumparat pinioane?.Daca da cu cat?.


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post 21 Jul 2007, 19:25
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Si ma lamureste cineva exact de ce pinioan este vorba? Pinionul de pe DCI sau e vorba de alt raport custom made?

P.S. Parca era doar pinionul de treapta 5, nu de mai multe. Sau omit ceva?


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post 21 Jul 2007, 19:32
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Cred ca ai omis sa citesti tot ce s-a scris.
Vrei tu sa repetam special pentru tine?

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post 21 Jul 2007, 19:45
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Ba am citit tot ce s-a scris, altfel nu postam. S-a tot vorbit de cutiile de pe berlina, parca era vorba de Logan...

P.S. Mai bine scriai direct raspunsul, era mai rapid decat sa scrii aiurea 2 propozitii.

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post 21 Jul 2007, 19:53
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Pai n-am vrut, ca eu am citit ce ai scris pana acum si am observat ca esti pe dinafara si nu vei fi capabil in viata ta sa faci aceasta conversie de pinioane.
Mai citeste o data ce s-a scris, raspunsul la intrebarea ta se afla in acest topic.


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post 22 Jul 2007, 17:34
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Aha, deci trebuie sa fi neaparat mecanic ca sa faci o modificare la masina. Cool. Eu am vrut sa inteleg ce anume se schimba si dupa feedback-ul la macar un user ce isi face schimbarea sa hotarasc daca fac sau nu si eu.

P.S. Exista serviceuri, mecanici de cartier sau oameni ce stiu sa isi bage nasul sa rezolve anumite "probleme", totul e sa sti ce vrei si ce le ceri.


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A REUSIT CINEVA SA EFECTUEZE MODIFICAREA????? smile.gif


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