DaciaClub Logo

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

67 Pages  1 2 3 > »  
Reply to this topicStart new topicStart Poll

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

> Prima revizie (1 An sau 15.000 km), informatii utile, experiente personale

mushu^dog
post 19 Nov 2004, 12:55
Post #1


Membru incepator


Group: Members
Posts: 24
Joined: 3 November 04




Salut!
Sunt proaspat posesor de Logan. Spre surpinderea mea mi-a zis dealerul sa vin cu el in revizie la 15000 km sau un an.
Pai uleiul stiam ca trebuie schimbat dupa prima 1000 km. Sau cel putin la Matiz asa era...si prima revizie gratis.

Cum credeti ca trebuie facute schimburile de ulei? Ei zic ca din 15k in 15 k si scrie undeva ca e recomandat la 7500 km. Si astea cu ulei Dacia? Personal nu prea am incredere !

Cred ca e foarte important acest aspect pt viata motorului. As dori sa isi spuna fiecare parerea (argumentata).

P.s. Am cautat pe forum dar nu am gasit ceva exclusiv pe tema asta. Daca credeti ca nu e necesar se poate sterge topicu'


--------------------
Logan Ambition
User is offlineGalerie FotoPM
Go to the top of the page
+
klaus
post 19 Nov 2004, 13:53
Post #2


步步


Group: Moderatori
Posts: 19.029
Joined: 4 August 02
From: Bucuresti




Pai sa-ti repet ce a zis dealer-ul: Prima revizie la 15.000 km sau un an de zile (cat e garantat uleiul)

Acum, recomandarea mea: 7.500 km sau un an de zile pentru schimbat uleiul


--------------------
Scenic III 1.9 dCi - - - -
E mult mai bine să mă înșel din prea multă suspiciune decît din prea multă naivitate. - Cristoiu
User is offlineGalerie FotoPM
Go to the top of the page
+
alx
post 19 Nov 2004, 17:06
Post #3


Membru autentic


Group: Members
Posts: 1.001
Joined: 11 March 04
From: Bucuresti, Berceni




recomandarea mea dupa ce am vorbit cu un sef de garantii: pt linistea ta sufleteasca, schimba la 5000, apoi la 15000 si dup-aia din 15 in 15.


--------------------
Mitsubishi Outlander 1 2.0 benzina - varies
Vine valu' / Imi ia calu'
Chiar si scroafa din cotet...
User is offlineGalerie FotoPM
Go to the top of the page
+
logdan
post 19 Nov 2004, 17:53
Post #4


Membru incepator


Group: Members
Posts: 11
Joined: 16 November 04
From: PITESTI




Pai eu de la dealer am inteles ca primul ulei, care e asa mai de inceput, se schimba dupa 500 km, apoi urmeaza reviziile... Mai intreb si maine inca odata cand ridic masina, dar eu personal de-abia astept sa-l schimb cu un Castrol 10W-40 Magnatec dupa 500 km... Sper sa fie asa si sa ma lase sa ma duc cu uleiul meu (mai intreb odata maine)!


--------------------
DACIA LOGAN LAUREATE
User is offlineGalerie FotoPM
Go to the top of the page
+
Lucian123
post 20 Nov 2004, 19:06
Post #5


Membru autentic


Group: Members
Posts: 240
Joined: 25 August 04
From: Bucuresti




QUOTE(logdan @ 19 Nov 2004, 18:53)
Pai eu de la dealer am inteles ca primul ulei, care e asa mai de inceput, se schimba dupa 500 km, apoi urmeaza reviziile... Mai intreb si maine inca odata cand ridic masina, dar eu personal de-abia astept sa-l schimb cu un Castrol 10W-40 Magnatec dupa 500 km... Sper sa fie asa si sa ma lase sa ma duc cu uleiul meu (mai intreb odata maine)!
*




Vezi ca daca cumva vei avea probleme vreodata cu motorul si vor gasi maimutele alt ulei decat cel recomandat de ei nu vor repara pe garantie.

Uleiul de schimba, conform manualului, la 15000 km exceptie facand daca se circula mai mult in oras, cand se schimba la 7500. Mie mi-a recomandat sa schimb indiferent de ceea ce scrie in manual, adica la 7500 km.

This post has been edited by Lucian123: 20 Nov 2004, 19:08


--------------------
DACIA LOGAN Laureate 1.4 Rosu - B40XXX
User is offlineGalerie FotoPM
Go to the top of the page
+
logdan
post 20 Nov 2004, 20:11
Post #6


Membru incepator


Group: Members
Posts: 11
Joined: 16 November 04
From: PITESTI




Multumesc mult pentru raspuns! Atunci inseamna ca voi respecta intocmai "litera legii"! Asta e... Sper ca nu-si sape groapa singuri recomandandu-ne un ulei prost! Sau poate ne-o sapa noua? Ca pana la urma si daca se strica tot NOI stam fara masina 1-7 zile si daca ne mai gaseste vreun motiv poate ca tot NOI o sa platim si piesa/piesele necesare + consumabilele (adica uleiul sau antigelul sau... dupa caz altele) + manopera!


--------------------
DACIA LOGAN LAUREATE
User is offlineGalerie FotoPM
Go to the top of the page
+
CristiZ
post 20 Nov 2004, 20:55
Post #7


Membru autentic


Group: Members
Posts: 243
Joined: 11 October 04
From: Iasi




QUOTE(logdan @ 19 Nov 2004, 17:53)
Pai eu de la dealer am inteles ca primul ulei, care e asa mai de inceput, se schimba dupa 500 km, apoi urmeaza reviziile... Mai intreb si maine inca odata cand ridic masina, dar eu personal de-abia astept sa-l schimb cu un Castrol 10W-40 Magnatec dupa 500 km... Sper sa fie asa si sa ma lase sa ma duc cu uleiul meu (mai intreb odata maine)!
*



Primul schimb nu cred ca strica daca il faci mai devreme.. nu are cum!

Se poate pune problema si asa:

Chiar si cu uleiul lor, daca se schimba la timp, nu cred ca poti reusi sa strici motorul in 100.000 km. Sau chiar daca o sa consume putin ulei vor zice ca asa e normal cum am auzit si la case mai mari, nu dau nume. Dar, dupa acesti km cand masina iese din garantie, oare cat ne mai tine motorul? Poate atinge 3-400.000 km cum poate ar face-o cu ulei sintetic bun? Sa nu fi ales acest tip de ulei numai pt faptul ca sa ne scoata ochii ca intretinerea e ieftina!



--------------------
Duster ph2 Green Olive 2014
User is offlineGalerie FotoPM
Go to the top of the page
+
mushu^dog
post 22 Nov 2004, 09:31
Post #8


Membru incepator


Group: Members
Posts: 24
Joined: 3 November 04




Multumesc pt raspunsuri!
Am mai intrebat si eu in stanga si in dreapta...intre timp am facut 1000 km si cred ca voi merge sa schimb totusi uleiul.


Si eu am impresia ca cei dela Dacia sunt cam stupizi cu recomandarile astea...scria in manual ca nici nu trebuie sa incalzesti motorul ca mai bine mergi cu viteza mica pana se incalzeste.
Dealerul da tot felul de recomandari de 2 lei...adevarul e ca trebuie sa traiasca si ei si din piese...nu vad insa de ce nu ma lasa sa pun un ulei care sigur e mai bun....




--------------------
Logan Ambition
User is offlineGalerie FotoPM
Go to the top of the page
+
MoneyTalks
post 22 Nov 2004, 09:46
Post #9


-


Group: Members
Posts: 2.524
Joined: 18 April 03
From: Ireland




Schimbati voi des uleiul si o sa vedeti ca NU este ieftina intretinerea la Logan... tongue.gif In ritmul asta va fi mai ieftina intretinerea la BMW laugh.gif

In ideea intretinerii ieftine, cei de la Dacia s-au gindit la schimbatul uleiului la 15,000km. Daca voi schimbati uleiul de 2, 3, 4 etc. ori in timpul celor 15,000km, atunci intretinerea creste de 2, 3, 4 etc. ori.

QUOTE(mushu^dog @ 22 Nov 2004, 08:31)
Si eu am impresia ca cei dela Dacia sunt cam stupizi cu recomandarile astea...scria in manual ca nici nu trebuie sa incalzesti motorul ca mai bine mergi cu viteza mica pana se incalzeste.


Nu sint deloc stupizi. La orice masina care se respecta, constructorul recomanda acelasi lucru, pornirea imediat, fara sa incalzesti motorul. Iar in vest TOATA lumea face asa.


--------------------
Lexus IS300H Executive Plus
Religia a aparut cind primul ticalos s-a intilnit cu primul prost

Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large groups
User is offlineGalerie FotoPM
Go to the top of the page
+
mushu^dog
post 22 Nov 2004, 10:02
Post #10


Membru incepator


Group: Members
Posts: 24
Joined: 3 November 04




Nici nu ma mira lucrul asta. Fara a vrea sa intru in polemica cu nimeni...cei din vest isi permit sa isi schimbe masina la 2-3 ani si apoi se gaseste un roman care sa o cumpere din autohaus sa vina sa se dea rotund prin tara cu audi-ul cel nou.

Spre deosebire de ei , eu mai am de platit 7 ani la ea si ma preocupa intretinerea pe termen lung ca sa nu am probleme mai tarziu.
Deci comparatia cu vestul pica...noi traim in romania unde .....


--------------------
Logan Ambition
User is offlineGalerie FotoPM
Go to the top of the page
+
klaus
post 22 Nov 2004, 10:07
Post #11


步步


Group: Moderatori
Posts: 19.029
Joined: 4 August 02
From: Bucuresti




Referitor la uleiul pe care puteti sa*l puneti in logan, eu cred ca ar trebui sa va mai uitati pe documentele (caietul de garantii, de intretinere).
Mie mi s-a parut ca nu mai exista obligativitatea schimbarii cu Dacia Oil.


--------------------
Scenic III 1.9 dCi - - - -
E mult mai bine să mă înșel din prea multă suspiciune decît din prea multă naivitate. - Cristoiu
User is offlineGalerie FotoPM
Go to the top of the page
+
BOGDAN DSN
post 22 Nov 2004, 10:11
Post #12


Membru autentic


Group: Members
Posts: 248
Joined: 18 October 04
From: Bucuresti




plus ca dacia oil costa mai mult decat elf competition dacia 262.000 litru;elf 187.000 litru;si la filtre este o diferenta un pret in service(mai mare) si alt pret in magazine.


--------------------
Toyota Aygo 2006 - masina de servici - fost posesor de DSN
User is offlineGalerie FotoPM
Go to the top of the page
+
Sith
post 22 Nov 2004, 16:47
Post #13


Unregistered









Cine este producatorul Dacia Oil ?


--------------------
Go to the top of the page
+
dragOn
post 22 Nov 2004, 18:34
Post #14


Fost deținător Dacia (1310, Liberta, Solenza)


Group: Members
Posts: 692
Joined: 8 July 02
From: Bucuresti




Mai nou, cică Elf!


--------------------
VOLKSWAGEN PASSAT TDi 131CP/2002 - B xx UEX
Never drive faster then your angel can fly !!!
User is offlineGalerie FotoPM
Go to the top of the page
+
Lucian123
post 22 Nov 2004, 22:07
Post #15


Membru autentic


Group: Members
Posts: 240
Joined: 25 August 04
From: Bucuresti




TEXACO.


--------------------
DACIA LOGAN Laureate 1.4 Rosu - B40XXX
User is offlineGalerie FotoPM
Go to the top of the page
+
klaus
post 23 Nov 2004, 10:38
Post #16


步步


Group: Moderatori
Posts: 19.029
Joined: 4 August 02
From: Bucuresti




Elf va fi in viitorul foarte apropiat. Deocamdata este Texaco, produs in Bulgaria


--------------------
Scenic III 1.9 dCi - - - -
E mult mai bine să mă înșel din prea multă suspiciune decît din prea multă naivitate. - Cristoiu
User is offlineGalerie FotoPM
Go to the top of the page
+
ionutzp
post 23 Nov 2004, 11:41
Post #17


Membru incepator


Group: Members
Posts: 21
Joined: 27 August 04
From: Bucuresti




si cum o sa-si dea seama aia de la service ca e alt ulei decat dacia oil?


--------------------
Dacia Logan 2005 - Laureate 1.6
User is offlineGalerie FotoPM
Go to the top of the page
+
LucVer
post 23 Nov 2004, 11:58
Post #18


Membru foarte autentic! ;-)


Group: Members
Posts: 240
Joined: 9 October 03
From: Brasov




alx

Era vorba de primul schimb de ulei, ulei care se poate uza mai repede din cauza frecarilor mai mari din motorul nou! Dupa primul schimb, nu cred ca mai e nevoie de schimburi mai dese decat la 15000 km!


--------------------
Renault Fluence Expression Plus 1.6 16v 2011 - BV xx XXX
ex-Logan Laureate 1.4

Fortza fie cu tine! - Star Wars
User is offlineGalerie FotoPM
Go to the top of the page
+
Lucian123
post 23 Nov 2004, 18:19
Post #19


Membru autentic


Group: Members
Posts: 240
Joined: 25 August 04
From: Bucuresti




"In caz de utilizare in anumite conditii deosebit de dificile:
din aproape in aproape permanent,
utilizare in majoritate urbana,
mici trasee repetate, motor rece la temperatura joasa etc.
DACIA recomanda sa realizati un schimb de ulei la fiecare 7500 km."

citat din pagina 16, carnet de intretinere Dacia.

Asta inseamna ca tot timpul nu numai la primul chimb.


--------------------
DACIA LOGAN Laureate 1.4 Rosu - B40XXX
User is offlineGalerie FotoPM
Go to the top of the page
+
alx
post 4 Dec 2004, 10:02
Post #20


Membru autentic


Group: Members
Posts: 1.001
Joined: 11 March 04
From: Bucuresti, Berceni




mey, de stricat nu are cum sa strice dar NU E OBLIGATORIU!
daca vrei sa tii masina vreo 500000 de km ar trebui sa schimbi chiar la 5000. si mai e un aspect: daca iti permiti fa-o...
@LucVer: exact asta am spus si eu, primul schimb la 5000, apoi la 15000 la service (ca asta e obligatoriu) si apoi din 15 in 15. eu unul asa o sa fac.


--------------------
Mitsubishi Outlander 1 2.0 benzina - varies
Vine valu' / Imi ia calu'
Chiar si scroafa din cotet...
User is offlineGalerie FotoPM
Go to the top of the page
+
stefan19
post 1 Mar 2005, 20:57
Post #21


Membru incepator


Group: Members
Posts: 89
Joined: 15 September 04
From: Constanta




Tocmai mi-am schimbat uleiul la loganelul meu, pe la 7800 km, acum am 9200 si parca a mai scazut putin zgomotul produs de motor la turatii ridicate.
In service mi-au pus MOBIL Super S 10w40, mai era disponibil ulei DACIA, si daca vroiam uleiul de pe megane, cred ca ELF.
Parerea unui sofer de meserie ( are un espero coreean cu 800.000 km la bord ), orice ulei pana in 400.000 lei litrul isi cam pierde din proprietati peste 7-8000 km.
In principiu nu vreau sa-mi tin masina peste 100.000 km, fapt pentru care am decis sa schimb prima data la 7500 iar apoi din 15 in 15, dar cred ca voi pune ELF.
Costuri 4l x 315.000, filtru 150.000, manopera 300.000.


--------------------
Dacia Logan Ambition - CT-XX-STE
User is offlineGalerie FotoPM
Go to the top of the page
+
radu logan
post 13 Mar 2005, 13:36
Post #22


Membru incepator


Group: Members
Posts: 21
Joined: 22 November 04
From: Piatra-Neamt




Loganul meu se aproipe de prima revizie .. la 12500 ... la ce as trebui sa fiu atent ...fiind prima mea masina..si nu am mai fost niciodata la o astfel de revizie !!! cand o urca pe elevator ...ce sai amintesc sa verifice ?? ... astept raspunsuri !!!
trebuie pus si DuraLub la schimbul de ulei ?


--------------------
ex Dacia Logan Laureate 1.6 - NT-05-MYN
curent Audi A6 --> NT-88-AIM
User is offlineGalerie FotoPM
Go to the top of the page
+
RIon
post 13 Mar 2005, 13:38
Post #23


pasionat


Group: Members
Posts: 2.835
Joined: 22 May 04
From: CJ




dura lube smile.gif se cam pune la motoare cu 100 000km in sus mai frate...
sa fii atent la tot, mai ales ce scrie in cartea de revizii


--------------------
Skoda Octavia 2 2005, TDI 160CP 2008, Ford Focus 115 CP - de CJ
www.raresion.ro
User is offlineGalerie FotoPM
Go to the top of the page
+
radu logan
post 13 Mar 2005, 13:42
Post #24


Membru incepator


Group: Members
Posts: 21
Joined: 22 November 04
From: Piatra-Neamt




daca pun dura lube..strica cu ceva ? tatal meu a pus la clio 1.5dci al lui dura lube cu 30 de mii km in bord si se se simte diferenta !!


--------------------
ex Dacia Logan Laureate 1.6 - NT-05-MYN
curent Audi A6 --> NT-88-AIM
User is offlineGalerie FotoPM
Go to the top of the page
+
RIon
post 13 Mar 2005, 13:43
Post #25


pasionat


Group: Members
Posts: 2.835
Joined: 22 May 04
From: CJ




eu zic sa citesti ce scrie pe prospect, si apoi sa faci ce considei cu aia 1.5 mil lei


--------------------
Skoda Octavia 2 2005, TDI 160CP 2008, Ford Focus 115 CP - de CJ
www.raresion.ro
User is offlineGalerie FotoPM
Go to the top of the page
+
Hentiu
post 13 Mar 2005, 16:35
Post #26


Membru incepator


Group: Members
Posts: 59
Joined: 2 July 04
From: Timisoara




Nu stiu de ce mi se pare mie ca prima revizie nu e la 12.500 km cum zici tu, ci la 15.000 Km sau 1 an...
Tu ce zici ?


--------------------
Dacia Logan Ambition - TM-96-HEN
User is offlineGalerie FotoPM
Go to the top of the page
+
radu logan
post 13 Mar 2005, 16:58
Post #27


Membru incepator


Group: Members
Posts: 21
Joined: 22 November 04
From: Piatra-Neamt




eu vreau sa o fac mai repede !! avand in vedere ca fac cam 100 de km pe zi ..si vreau ca totul sa fie in regula cu masina

This post has been edited by radu logan: 13 Mar 2005, 16:59


--------------------
ex Dacia Logan Laureate 1.6 - NT-05-MYN
curent Audi A6 --> NT-88-AIM
User is offlineGalerie FotoPM
Go to the top of the page
+
KNIGHT_C
post 13 Mar 2005, 18:22
Post #28


Membru


Group: Members
Posts: 117
Joined: 4 January 05
From: Bucuresti




Revizia se poate face oricand pana in 15.000 km, ca dovada ca mie mi-au facut-o la vreo 9.400 km. cand m-am dus sa schimb uleiul si sa rezolv treaba cu cricul.
Important e sa ai grija de schimbul de ulei si sa le faci inainte de limita maxima (15.000 sau 1 an, 30.000 sau 2 ani etc.).


--------------------
DACIA LOGAN Ambition 2004 - B 40 ZZZ
Nu judecati oamenii dupa hotararile si faptele lor inainte de a intelege conjuctura in care le-au luat respectiv facut.
User is offlineGalerie FotoPM
Go to the top of the page
+
asarban
post 13 Mar 2005, 18:39
Post #29


Membru autentic


Group: Banned
Posts: 2.288
Joined: 24 May 02




Pune si tu dura lube DUPA ce iesi din garantie...asta ca sa nu ai belele daca Doamne Fereste patesti ceva si vad aia piesele "rosietice" iti dau cu setul in cap si scuipi 50 bulioane sa ti-l faci!


--------------------
Intr-o apa adanca patru ochi luceste. Ce sa fie oare este doi de peste.
User is offlineGalerie FotoPM
Go to the top of the page
+
Lucian123
post 13 Mar 2005, 18:43
Post #30


Membru autentic


Group: Members
Posts: 240
Joined: 25 August 04
From: Bucuresti




QUOTE(asarban @ 13 Mar 2005, 19:39)
Pune si tu dura lube DUPA ce iesi din garantie...asta ca sa nu ai belele daca Doamne Fereste patesti ceva si vad aia piesele "rosietice" iti dau cu setul in cap si scuipi 50 bulioane sa ti-l faci!
*




Mai exact cu tot motorul, pentru ca nu are camasi. Cilindri la Logan sunt alezati direct in blocul motor.



"FTC Charges Motor Oil Additive Marketers;
Ads for Dura Lube Were False and Unsubstantiated, Agency Says

In the latest law enforcement initiative targeting ads that use deceptive performance claims to tout motor oil additives, the Federal Trade Commission has charged the marketers of Dura Lube Super Engine Treatment and Dura Lube Advanced Engine Treatment with making false and unsubstantiated advertising claims, in violation of federal law. Herman S. Howard, Scott Howard and six corporations they control that manufacture and market Dura Lube face administrative trial.

Dura Lube is one of the largest engine treatment companies in the country and the fifth to be charged by the FTC with making false or unsubstantiated claims. The FTC has previously halted allegedly deceptive ads for Valvoline Engine Treatment, Slick 50 Engine Treatment and STP Engine Treatment. Motor Up Corporation, which was sued by the FTC on April 14, 1999, is awaiting administrative trial on charges that its ads were unsubstantiated.

The FTC alleges that packaging, labeling, print ads and infomercials for Dura Lube claim that compared to motor oil alone, or motor oil treated with any other product, using Dura Lube:

reduces engine wear by more than 50percent;
prolongs engine life and reduces emissions;
reduces the risk of serious engine damage when oil pressure is lost; and
improves gas mileage by up to 35 percent.
The FTC alleges Dura Lube did not have a reasonable basis to substantiate these claims.

The FTC also alleges that the advertising represents that tests establish that compared to motor oil alone, using Dura Lube:

reduces engine wear by more than 50 percent and prolongs engine life;
improves gas mileage by up to 35 percent and reduces emissions;
reduces the risk of serious engine damage when oil pressure is lost; and
one treatment continues to protect the engine for up to 50,000 miles.
However, tests do not prove that Dura Lube provides these benefits and therefore the representation that tests prove that consumers will realize these benefits is false and misleading. In addition, Dura Lube ads claimed that its product does not contain chlorinated compounds and that it has been tested by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. According to the FTC, these claims are false because Dura Lube contains chlorinated paraffin, a chlorinated compound, and Dura Lube has not been tested by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.

The Dura Lube infomercials featured a demonstration of an automobile engine running after the oil treated with Dura Lube had been drained out to prove Dura Lube reduces the risk of serious engine damage when oil pressure is lost. Another demonstration showed the response of untreated oil to heat compared to the response of oil with Dura Lube to prove that without Dura Lube, motor oil fails to protect automobile engines under hot running conditions. In fact, the FTC alleges, the demonstrations don't prove the claims made.

Finally, infomercial and print ads with a former NASA astronaut represent that he has expertise in the evaluation and testing of automobile engine lubrication and endorses Dura Lube on the basis of an independent, objective and valid evaluation or generally accepted tests. In fact, the FTC alleges, the former astronaut does not have expertise in evaluation and testing of auto engine lubrication and hasn't endorsed Dura Lube based on an independent, objective or valid evaluation or testing.

In addition to Herman Howard and Scott Howard, of Stamford, Connecticut, the FTC complaint names Stamford-based Dura Lube Corporation, which coordinates all of Dura Lube's business; Howe Laboratories, Inc., distributor of Dura Lube; The Media Group and National Communications Corporation, which provide advertising services. Also named are American Direct Marketing, Inc., based in Nashville, Tennessee, which directs marketing for the product and Crescent Manufacturing, Inc., headquartered in Eden, New York, which manufactures and packages Dura Lube.

The Commission vote to file the complaint was 4-0.

In an administrative trial, the FTC will seek to bar unsubstantiated performance claims about Dura Lube or any other product used in a motor vehicle. It will also seek to prohibit misrepresentations about tests or studies; deceptive demonstrations; misleading endorsements; and misrepresentations about whether a product contains a chlorinated compound or has been tested by EPA or meets the standards of any standard-setting organization.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

NOTE: The Commission issues a complaint when it has "reason to believe" that the law has been or is being violated, and it appears to the Commission that a proceeding is in the public interest. The complaint is not a finding or ruling that the respondents have actually violated the law. The case will be decided by an administrative law judge.

Copies of the complaint are available from the FTC's web site at http://www.ftc.gov and also from the FTC's Consumer Response Center, Room 130, 600 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W., Washington, D.C. 20580; 202-FTC-HELP (202-382-4357); TDD for the hearing impaired 1-866-653-4261. Consent agreements subject to public comment also are available by calling 202-326-3627. To find out the latest news as it is announced, call the FTC NewsPhone recording at 202-326-2710.

MEDIA CONTACT:
Claudia Bourne Farrell
Office of Public Affairs
202-326-2181
"

This post has been edited by Lucian123: 13 Mar 2005, 18:49


--------------------
DACIA LOGAN Laureate 1.4 Rosu - B40XXX
User is offlineGalerie FotoPM
Go to the top of the page
+

67 Pages  1 2 3 > » 
Reply to this topicTopic OptionsStart new topic


1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:
 

Lo-Fi Version  Harta site  Parteneri  Jocuri online  Curs Valutar  HRH Haine din lana merinos Time is now: 23rd August 2019 - 22:06
Forum Renault Server hosting