Problem With Corrosion on Logan, Rumor or Fact?
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Problem With Corrosion on Logan, Rumor or Fact?
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g100sic |
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Did you consider keeping your Yugo instead?
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It is a recall its no problem .In fact it shows that Dacia are long term interested and any new car will not have this problem .It was only one piece of the car that had not enough Underbody protection on it and that is ok now
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![]() Membru mult Group: Members Posts: 644 Joined: 21 April 04 From: Medias, Romania ![]() |
Ask your dealer about the warranty. And don't be so afraid. Painting isn't bad, but also isn't outstanding. They give here, under certain circumstances, six years anti corrosion warranty and two years for paint.
It's just a car, and a cheap one. Take good care of it, and don't expect to hold 30 years with the original paint. Btw, regarding the cancellation, why did you order your car? Just to be afraid and not sleep well? |
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QUOTE(paul_damian @ 15 Apr 2008, 19:36) Ask your dealer about the warranty. And don't be so afraid. Painting isn't bad, but also isn't outstanding. Yes, paint i "soft", and in Serbia exists six years anti corrosion warranty and two years for paint. QUOTE(paul_damian @ 15 Apr 2008, 19:36) It's just a car, and a cheap one. Take good care of it, and don't expect to hold 30 years with the original paint. Btw, regarding the cancellation, why did you order your car? Just to be afraid and not sleep well? Yes again, it is "cheap" automobile, a new one for 8600E (it is a lot of maney for me), and if there is "any" mechanichal problem you can solve it with replacing that part (speaking about sacond-hand 2004+ vehicle for same price). But corrosion is like cancer, you can fight against, but you can never win. My thinking is that with buying new car, I buy "soul peace" for at least 5-6 years. |
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martin245 |
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Peja !!!
You will never be happy so buy something else ..................PITY !YOUR LOSS StU |
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Peja |
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Hey, StU, I know that this is Dacia fanclub and that all of us are very sensitive about Logan, etc.
I've made mu decision, Logan should be in my hands till May (late cause of strike in Romania), just only worried about pour anticorrosive protection. This is 2008 not 1988, zink galvanization isn't science fiction any more, PITY for Renault-Nissan-Dacia cause of not using it. Best wishes. |
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paul_damian |
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QUOTE(Peja @ 15 Apr 2008, 22:22) It would cost, don't know, 1000-2000 Euros more. And Logan was projected and is build cost-effective. As I said before: take care of it - as the manual says (yes, preventing is better than curing), and you'll be ok. If, by any chances, problems occur, fight for your problem: your dealer has to solve your problem and he is enforced to have even the Ixell paint system. |
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Man the lack of galvanization is only because Renault is so hungry for money and don't care about their image. At little over 10000 E the Skoda Fabia has galvanization, better build quality, better materials but is a bit smaller. Let's don't forget that in the Czech Republic costs are bigger especially because of the salaries. For 10000E on the top sedan version you buy the same crapy plastic, no galvanization, poor suspension but a bigger car. Honestly I would not buy a 10000E Logan Sedan because even if you have 105 bhp the car is to similar to the cheapest version which has a quality way under any other cheapest version on the market
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Aleksandar |
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This is from the Dacia Group web page. The owners in Serbia, BiH, and Croatia are already receiving the notices from Renault Nissan on this inspection...
Service Operation on Logan Saloon Cars January 17, 2008 Dacia is preparing to carry out a service operation which will allow their customers to take advantage of the latest technical improvements carried out in their plants. This service call only concerns models of Logan Saloon cars manufactured in Romania and Russia up until the end of 2006. This operation (an additional injection of protective wax) is to allow customers to take advantage of technical breakthroughs free of charge, in order to improve their vehicles' protection, especially against climatic attacks. As it is indicated in the vehicle maintenance log book and the 6-year anti-corrosion warranty, when the vehicles are next serviced, Dacia will also carry out an anti-corrosion inspection and will perform any necessary servicing. This is because Dacia, always concerned about the quality of their vehicles, has noticed in some cases the presence of oxidation in the back wheel arch of certain Logan Saloon cars manufactured in Romania and Russia. This localized oxidation is caused by a water inlet in the back wheel arch, as a result of manual operations which were not correctly carried out during the manufacturing process (putty application and/or the positioning of a plug). The necessary corrective actions have been carried out in-plant, to ensure the best manufacturing quality, especially during putty application, an operation which requires dexterity. These measures will be confirmed in writing to the customers concerned. |
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gdejan |
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Thanks,
http://www.renault.com/renault_com/en/imag...1120-711726.pdf Dacia made technical breakthroughs, so our cars will be more technical advanced than before ![]() I still don't received letter from Renault for service, and car was made in November 2006 |
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FILter |
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There is no breakthrough. They will put some aditional protective wax on parts that they consider that are not wll protected.
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gdejan |
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I am joking about breakthrough
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Aleksandar |
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How sustainable and reliable is this protective wax? Is this a long term solution?
Or all Dacia owners should just sell their cars once the anticorrosion guarantee expires after 6 years, just in case? |
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klaus |
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Not after, before
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Hey you guys !! all cars have problems ! if Dacia are sorting it out then whats your problem ? and If you have recieved no letter then either your car is Ok and if you are not sure then talk to the head mechanic on your next service
Hell Guys enjoy your cars and stop looking for faults that you are not even sure that are there or not ![]() Stu |
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Boris |
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My car looks OK so far. I have been in contact with a guy from Dubrovnik that has a 1.6 sedan Logan and he has some corrosion problems on the roof. Hope he solves that using his guarantee. Strange problem.
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Aleksandar |
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Just a quick explanation (especially to angry Briton aka. Stu).
I am very satisfied with my Laureate, have over 30,500 kms for less then two years without any problems of course with regular maintenance. No problems of any kind with oxydation or corrosion. In my opinion, the fact that Renault Dacia has decided to go with this inspection is showing the professional attitude of Dacia. Even the bigger (more expensive and "famous") producers have had recalls of their vehicles from time to time. |
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On Serbian Dacia Fan Club one of the members posted this very interesting link concerning a corrosion problem on 2003 Honda Accord. Check it, please!
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Peja, to answer your question, no. At least in Estonia, people don't complain about corrosion on Logans.
To be honest there was one guy who did but he was most probably just a Logan basher, telling he had all doors corroded in only 3 months and the sails man just laughing at it, declaring it's not his problem. ![]() He had a peer (the basher, not the imaginary sails man), a guy asking for advice how to brake it to many women in his life that he's having just a Logan for what others have a car, and was heartedly suggested what one could expect from fan boys site, a plastic surgery below his belt to get a few inches of extra self confidence. But seriously, many complain about noise (engine, tires, road), and some about all kinds of squeaks and clacks after about 40 000 km, especially those who just step on it no matter what (Estonian roads aren't exactly German autobahns). And finally, those who have had their 100 000 km on Logan have sold it and have been mostly satisfied with it, and bought a new one. You get what you pay for, they say, and for that money there is car enough in Logan. This post has been edited by Uri: 20 Apr 2008, 00:54 |
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Speaking about corrosion..this could realy help, in prevention sense
![]() http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?652b9b5313.jpg ![]() Logan for Serbian market dont have ths protection. where can i find/buy this items. I live in Serbia, and this parts are unavailable here. Our Dacia car dealers never heard about it. ![]() I thinkthis parts ![]() Peja This post has been edited by Peja: 20 Apr 2008, 08:10 |
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QUOTE(Peja @ 20 Apr 2008, 08:07) Logan for Serbian market dont have ths protection. where can i find/buy this items. I live in Serbia, and this parts are unavailable here. Our Dacia car dealers never heard about it. ![]() I don't know about Dacia/Renault's politics for selling accessories in Serbia, but if they sell any, your dealer should be able to bring them. To help you I can give you the codes (you can also find them in the Romanian catalog available at http://www.dacia.ro/fileobjects/document/a...t_download/data : Mudguard kit front: 6001998163 Mudguard kit rear: 6001998164 Wing protections front: 6001998192 Wing protections rear: 6001998193 They are sold at two pieces / set (left/right). I'm not familiar with the English terms for these pieces, so it could be that they are not officially named like here, but I'm sure that these are the parts you reffered (I bought them myself, too). |
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Correction - I did find a user on an Estonian car forum who complained about corrosion -- around the filler neck, and under the flip. The kilometrage was 100.000.
Actually if a car would not rust up here in North with 4 to 7 months clorides exposure (to prevent black and other bad types of ice) with temperature around zero, spiked tires* allowed that shoot small iron particles that penetrate zinc, making nice electrolyte to eat the steel parts of the body up... well, then, it's not bad at all. --------------------------- * There is an urban legend that spiked tires are life insurance for a reckless/sloppy driver on ice and snow, although we had only 8 days of snow and ice last winter, and 2 days of snow two winters back... This post has been edited by Uri: 22 Apr 2008, 22:13 |
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klaus |
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I would look at russian forums... The problem is more present there.
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Peja |
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some bad news
http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=r...adnjegkrkp2.jpg http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00267qs2.jpg on first photo corrosion on edge above rear wheels on second photo color is "washed" above front wheels LOGAN2005 metalic http://daciafanclub.6.forumer.com/viewtopi...c25abf5fd5#1667 |
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BTW, Peja, did you get your own Logan in the meantime?
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Peja |
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No, I haven't, and I am very ANGRY!
![]() First it was delay cause strike in factory, so automobile was finished after 45days, after that 30 days expired and automobile was stil on parking in Romanian factory. After that it was transported to Kragujevac in last Friday, and it is still there. Reason is that the Hoedlmayr (spedition and transport) is in missunderstood with dealers in Serbia, claiming that they didn't pay all bills for transport, and don't want to transport automobile from Kragujevac to Nis. After calling Republic Trading Inspection ![]() ![]() automobile was ordered in 18.03., totaly paid when finished 05.05. but until now i am riding bicycle! ![]() This post has been edited by Peja: 5 Jun 2008, 21:58 |
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QUOTE(Peja @ 5 Jun 2008, 20:14) No, I haven't, and I am very ANGRY! ![]() First it was delay cause strike in factory, so automobile was finished after 45days, after that 30 days expired and automobile was stil on parking in Romanian factory. After that it was transported to Kragujevac in last Friday, and it is still there. Reason is that the Hoedlmayr (spedition and transport) is in missunderstood with dealers in Serbia, claiming that they didn't pay all bills for transport, and don't want to transport automobile from Kragujevac to Nis. After calling Republic Trading Inspection ![]() ![]() automobile was ordered in 18.03., totaly paid when finished 05.05. but until now i am riding bicycle! ![]() You payed your car before you got it? Why? Did the dealer demand that? Why in hell would you pay your car in advance? Come to think of it, I'm not sure if I did the same thing. Maybe I did. It's just now that when I'm reading this that the whole idea of paying in advance sounds stupid. |
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You must pay an advance amount for the order to be filed to the factory. If you want to pay more, well that's your choise.
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