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post 5 Mar 2007, 21:41
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cat ai dat pe ele?


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post 5 Mar 2007, 21:47
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nu stiu de ce dar ma bazam pe tine cu un raspuns... biggrin.gif
o sa revin si cu impresii cat de curand mai ales ca motorul nu are un mers tocmai regulat acum..(imi vine sa-l regulez eu..)!
cam mult cred eu dar am gas intr-un sg loc...175000rol bucata

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post 5 Mar 2007, 21:58
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sa nu-mi spui ca ti-ai luat bujii pentru ca marsul in gol e neregulat.el cel mai putin probabil ca bujiile sunt de vina.asa fac toti ,schimba bujiile., apoi fisele si pana la urma descopera ca bobina e de vina radmasa.gif


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post 5 Mar 2007, 22:03
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nu prietene...nu am zis ca numai mersul in gol e neregulat si in cateva zile ma duc la revizia de 2 ani si am aproape 30000 de km!
Tragi cam repede concluzii gresite....


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post 5 Mar 2007, 22:12
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banuiesc ca mersul neregulat l-ai descoperit stand cu masina si nu in mers sad.gif


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post 5 Mar 2007, 22:12
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banuiesc ca mersul neregulat l-ai descoperit stand cu masina si nu in mers sad.gif


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post 5 Mar 2007, 22:16
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Mai ales in mers...exista undeva problema mea descrisa mai amanuntit..la probleme tehnice logan!Oricum merg in service si sa vad ce are!Si eu chiar vroiam sa-i schimb bujiile sa-mi iasa din cap asta...


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post 5 Mar 2007, 22:20
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te astept cu raspuns,poti sa-mi trimiti chiar mesaj personal,chiar sunt foarte curios din ce cauza ti-a mers neregulat.


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post 11 Mar 2007, 10:35
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Am schimbat bujiile odata cu uleiul(am pus aral 5w40),filtrele si canistra de carbon!Vechile bujii aratau bine si erau champion cu un electrod(mentionez asta deoarece cel din service s-a cam mirat si nu prea ii venea sa creda ca sunt stock).
Ca impresie ..sunt sigur ca masina la relanti merge mai rotund...se simt mici vibratii in schimbator!Cat despre smuciturile pe care le avea in frana de motor au cam disparut...adica mai face dar cred ca face ca orice masina in frana de motor!(nu sunt violente deloc)
Si este mai silentioasa(cred ca de la ulei)!


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post 11 Mar 2007, 20:29
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ce pret au bujiile cele care la recomanda producatorul?


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post 12 Mar 2007, 14:38
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Eu am luat din vitan bujii CHAMPION RC87YCL cu 30 RON patru bucati


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post 16 Mar 2007, 21:40
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[quote=1.6,11 Mar 2007, 10:35]
Am schimbat bujiile odata cu uleiul(am pus aral 5w40),filtrele si canistra de carbon!

Am o intrebare stimate domn 1.6 : Cum merge acum motorul cu aral si ...mai ales ce tip de bujii ai acum la Logan?

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post 21 Mar 2007, 17:54
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QUOTE(adisan @ 16 Mar 2007, 21:40)
QUOTE(1.6 @ 11 Mar 2007, 10:35)

Am schimbatfiltrele si canistra de carbon!
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ce canistra de carbon ai schimbat?

eu am pus bujii de origine, EQYEM<sau pe acolo> cu doi electrozi. avem cu un singur electrod de cand am cumparat masina acum 55000 km. cu noile bujii cu doi electrozi motorul merge mai rotund, nu mai vibreaza schimbatorul ca inainte.
eu sunt multumit de alegerea facuta si la 50 lei cat am dat pe 4 bujii...e chair prea bine!

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post 14 Apr 2007, 14:17
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iaute aici bujii din septembrie 2004,acum altele noi,tot un electrod Denso laugh.gif


am uitat sa zic ,a sczut consumul imediat ,de la 11 cat arat pe PC de bord icon_mrgreen.gif ,a ajuns imediat la 7,8 happy.gif cool.gif in oras,si chiar consuma mult ,in 32 de km imi lua 4,2 l dry.gif cu bujiile vechi

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post 15 Apr 2007, 19:06
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C@talin, ce vrusi sa zici? In limba romana daca se poate...


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post 16 Apr 2007, 15:50
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scuze,am vrut sa zic ca ,cu bujiile vechi care arata ca in poza consuma prea mult, resetam computeru si in 34 de km imi consuma 4,4 l,si la teava de esapament gasem ud de benzina si mirosea destul,acuma cu bujiile noi in 34 km mi-a consumat 2,5 l.

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post 22 Apr 2007, 10:02
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Prima data cand a aparut Loganul a fost echipat cu bujii cu un electrod,aparand varianta 16 valve, a aparut si bujia cu 2 electrozi.Ideea este ca merge pusa bujia cu 2 electrozi pe orice Logan,cred ca are o mai buna functionare.


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post 27 Apr 2007, 09:34
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Eu am avut Bosch din fabrica , acum am Renault si am luat DENSO ( made in Japan ) icon_mrgreen.gif pentru ca m-a sfatuit un prieten . Am sarit peste NGK , ca erau scumpe chiar si cele standard , iar cele Racing depaseau 1 mil .
Ca parere personala e bine sa nu le lasati 30.000 km , ci pe undeva la 25 - 27.000 km sa le schimbati .
C@talin cum se comporta masina cu Denso ? ( ca eu inca nu le-am pus )
Eu stiam ca bujiile cu mai multi electrozi sunt recomandate pentru motoare mai puternice , care merg mult in regim de turatii inalte si ca la relati si mai ales pentru oras nu sunt prea recomandate . Poate ca initial masina va merge si va consuma mai bine pentur ca sunt noi , dar in timp este posibil ca acel consum sa creasca !
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post 27 Apr 2007, 12:29
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foarte bine ,consumul a scazut drastic,si motoru nustu de mers rotund ca nu le am cu astea nu-mi dau seama cand merge un motor rotund si cand merge altfel,cei drept nu mai vibreaza asa tare la relanti cum facea cu vechile bujii


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post 1 May 2007, 17:56
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Eu am acum pe masina Bosch cu 4 electrozi.
Ce sa spun, masina merge bine, relanti-ul rotund, dar bine mergea si inainte.
Consumul a scazut un pic (nu mult). De exemplu am fost Bucuresti - Valcea - Cozia si retur cu medie generala de 5,7 l/100. De mers am mers normal (cum merg de obicei), benzina Petrom 95, aer conditionat pornit din cand in cand. De cand am masina nu am vazut in afara o medie sub 6,2 - 6,4 l/100.


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post 7 May 2007, 07:49
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QUOTE(C@talin @ 16 Apr 2007, 15:50)
scuze,am vrut sa zic ca ,cu bujiile vechi care arata ca in poza consuma prea mult, resetam computeru si in 34 de km imi consuma 4,4 l,si la teava de esapament gasem ud de benzina si mirosea destul,acuma cu bujiile noi  in 34 km mi-a consumat 2,5 l.
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Nu te superi daca nu cred ca un schimb de bujii ar scadea consumul de carburant cu 1,9 l la 34 de km?..
Daca aasta ar fi adevarat , ai revolutiona tot ce se stie pina acum despre motoare


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post 8 May 2007, 08:34
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pai daca bujiile vechi nu erau bune, nu e normal sa consume mai mult?


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post 9 May 2007, 13:41
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QUOTE(YRX @ 1 May 2007, 18:56)
Eu am acum pe masina Bosch cu 4 electrozi
Bosch-Super 4 ?


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post 9 May 2007, 14:20
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QUOTE(angel35 @ 7 May 2007, 07:49)
Nu te superi daca nu cred ca un schimb de bujii ar scadea consumul de carburant cu 1,9 l  la 34 de km?..
Daca aasta ar fi adevarat , ai revolutiona tot ce se stie pina acum despre motoare
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nu ma intelege gresit,da erau praf bujiile si la fiecare drum mai lung gaseam benzina in interiorul ornamentului de la teava,deci arunca bezina nearsa pe teava in disperare icon_mrgreen.gif ,de aici si consumul mare


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post 9 May 2007, 14:23
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Trebuia sa atarni o canistra de toba ca sa recuperezi benzina care spui ca o gaseai nearsa pe teava ...asa iti mai scadea consumul un pic!


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post 9 May 2007, 14:28
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@ironik:
Da. Bosch Super 4 FR78X.

LE: Pret 70 RON setul de 4 buc de la Radacini (sunt Bosch Car Service).

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post 9 May 2007, 14:30
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Cat au costat per bucata ?


Mersi ptr. editare!

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post 9 May 2007, 14:51
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bujii NGK recomandate pentru logan:

Logan (X90), 4cilindri, cilindree 1.4, putere 55kw, din 2005 - ..., tip motor K7J, distanta electrod 0,9mm, cod bujie BKR6E

pret NGK Traditional spark plug 6962 BKR6E $2.35

Logan (X90), 4cilindri, cilindree 1.6, putere 66kw, din 2005 - ..., tip motor K7M, distanta electrod 0,9mm, cod bujie BKR6E


daca le are careva dintre voi montate sa ne spuna si noua cum merg

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post 9 May 2007, 15:05
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QUOTE(l@u @ 9 May 2007, 14:30)
Cat au costat per bucata ?
   Mersi ptr. editare!
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QUOTE(C@talin @ 9 May 2007, 15:20)
nu ma intelege gresit,da erau praf bujiile si la fiecare drum mai lung  gaseam benzina in interiorul  ornamentului de la teava
Adica zbura benzina ta nearsa prin supapele de evacuare, prin galerie, catalizator, toba finala, si o gaseai tocmai in ornamentul de la teava?


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