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post 17 Jul 2018, 11:06
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Cum cresc incasarile daca il iarta pe fratele neacoita (dinamovistul) de datoriile imense?
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post 17 Jul 2018, 11:15
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De-aia se grabeste ala sa (nu) plateasca? Vezi ca nu-i vorba doar de majorari si penalitati.


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post 17 Jul 2018, 11:17
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Data trecuta asa a fost.


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post 17 Jul 2018, 11:47
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Data trecuta... eram mai tineri. Acum se vorbeste la pachet cu gratierea. dry.gif


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post 17 Jul 2018, 12:37
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Pai de ce au mai modificat codurile daca dau gratierea?


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post 17 Jul 2018, 12:41
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post 17 Jul 2018, 12:44
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post 17 Jul 2018, 13:37
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QUOTE(ady77 @ 17 Jul 2018, 10:19)
E o metoda de a creste incasarile.
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post 17 Jul 2018, 13:38
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post 17 Jul 2018, 15:16
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aham... deci in ciordistan, pardon penalistan
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post 18 Jul 2018, 08:51
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QUOTE(ady77 @ 17 Jul 2018, 13:38)
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Adica in aia in care s-a mai dat o amistie fiscala tot prin OUG in 2015?
Cu cat s-au marit incasarile atunci la buget?

Sau doar au scapat niste smecheri de datorii, iar firmele lor au putut participa din nou la licitatii cu statul? Ca gusterii cinstiti oricum si-au platit regulat datoriile si cu si fara metoda asta de a creste incasarile.


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post 18 Jul 2018, 08:55
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Au scapat de o parte de majorari/penalitati dar macar au platit principalul.


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post 19 Jul 2018, 07:21
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Bre, governu condus de ala cu tabluori si linguori de haur a inghetat pretul la gaji.

Mai multe info aci. http://m.hotnews.ro/stire/22574530

Dupa cum comenteaza unul mai destupat la minte, masura nu ar viza pe votanciii umili ai socialismului de sorginte sovietica, ci se inceraca diminuarea inflatiei pe perioada amintită.

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post 19 Jul 2018, 10:56
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Nu cred ca se va aplica, in primul rand pt. ca ar mai vedea statul (si ceilalti actionari) dividende din pwla. Noul plafon de 55 RON/MWh este inferior nivelului reglementat de dinaintea liberalizarii (de 60 RON/MWh) si preturilor actuale din piata de 70-75 RON/MWh. Mai mult, proiectul nu va face diferentiere intre consumatorii casnici si cei industriali, ceea ce ar inrautati si mai mult conditiile de piata pentru producatorii locali vs. contextul dinaintea dereglementarii de anul trecut.
Cred ca (daca se va aplica tampenia asta) se hotarasc repede aia cu offshore-ul ce sa faca cu gazele din Marea Neagra...nu ca celelalte ar deveni mai rentabil de scos wacko.gif

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post 19 Jul 2018, 11:02
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Ca nu se poate am priceput de la Maho.
Ce nu pricep, micsorarea pretului la gaz era de bine sau de rau? Axarbt?


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post 19 Jul 2018, 11:04
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eu vizez ca totusi tot pentru "cine trebuie" e data legea .
- sau este o masura de santaj pentru companii, sa sara si ei cu banu, sa unga pe cinetrebuie. caz in care masura s-ar trece la "discutate si uitate"
- sau este pentru temperarea inflatiei

- in niciun caz masura nu vizeaza p-ala cu toaleta n fundu curtii, ca doar sa fim seriosi.

e de bine cum, au impus astia si preturi la medicamente si nu se mai gasesc nu stiu cate sortimente. vezi cazul "imoglobina"
sau pe timpurile alealalte, cand aveai pret impus la salam, zahar si ulei, dar nu prea le gaseai.

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post 19 Jul 2018, 11:08
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daca scade pretul dispare gazul?


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post 19 Jul 2018, 11:36
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noh, da dispar aia care l exploateaza.

ca de exemplu cand era barilul pe langa 40 usd era sa disparem si noi ca firma de proiectare, ca nimeni nu mai facea investitii...


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post 19 Jul 2018, 11:41
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QUOTE(ady77 @ 19 Jul 2018, 12:02)
Ca nu se poate am priceput de la Maho.
Ce nu pricep, micsorarea pretului la gaz era de bine sau de rau? Axarbt?
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N-am zis ca nu se poate, ca am mai vazut asta si la Transelectrica: profiturile (mari) pe care le-a facut pana-n 2016 inclusiv, "trebuie recuperate ( blink.gif ) prin scaderea tarifelor de transport incepand cu 2017"; asta s-a si intamplat, iar in semestrul 2 din 2017 au intrat pe pierdere, nasol. In facturile micilor consumatori nu prea s-a vazut...

Stiu ca nu m-ai intrebat pe mine, da' parerea mea e ca desi pare de bine, de fapt e de rau, ca afecteaza grav niste companii de importanta sistemica.
Daca scade pretul, nu mai e rentabil sa scoti gazu', si ajungi (iar) la mana rusilor, care-si pot permite sa vanda ieftin un timp, pana te agata, iar cand esti cu frigu-n casa si cu Romgazul pe butuci iti baga sula-n coaste.


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post 19 Jul 2018, 11:41
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post 19 Jul 2018, 11:46
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Eu nu cred ca e pe bune, cred ca e fake.


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post 19 Jul 2018, 11:48
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da masina, cat a costat masina ?


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post 19 Jul 2018, 12:02
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Eu nu cred ca e pe bune, cred ca e fake.
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E pe bune si basca legal.

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post 19 Jul 2018, 12:13
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De parca nu se pot manari pozele.

Oricum trebuie sa fii imbecil sa iti pui numarul ala la masina.

Dar ca sa radem totusi

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post 19 Jul 2018, 12:19
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E si filmare cu masina.

Buna aia cu hipermarketurile.


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post 19 Jul 2018, 12:25
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Deci am inteles. E de bine cand cresc preturile. Economia o sa duduie. rolleyes.gif
Io eram pe stil vechi. Pret mare=consum redus =profit mic. Pret mult prea mic =criza de supraproductie= somaj pe felia respectiva, actionari sariti de la etajul 10. tongue.gif


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post 19 Jul 2018, 12:32
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Dom' Bion. Daca eu sunt obligat sa tin pretul gazului la 55 lei, iar pe Ivan/Hans/Jean Valjean il doare la basca de obligatia mea, Ivan/Hans/Jean Valjean o sa-mi cumpere tot gazul pe care il produc si il va revinde la pretul lui. Si, ca sa poata sa cumpere tot fara probleme, o sa dea spaga la psd pentru reglementari corespunzatoare.

De la mine de pe ogor cam asa se vede.


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Să-l scumpească atunci, mama lui de gaz!
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Daca-l scumpeste nu e bine ca ne creste inflatia, daca il ieftineste nu e bine ca il cumpara Ivan.


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Dragos: Statul nu trebuie sa intervina in preturi decat daca are pozitie de monopol si poate asigura atat cererea, cat si supravietuirea producatorului in conditii de pret mic impus.
Producatorul roman nu poate mari preturile mai mult decat ce ofera piata, iar piata se auto-regleaza.
Daca ii bagi pumnu-n gura producatorului roman, dar ceilalti jucatori raman liberi, e clar ca ti-ai dat cu stangu-n dreptul. Sau te astepti ca rusul sa se rusineze si sa scada pretul, la randul lui? . Te asigur ca asta nu se va intampla.

Teoretic, partea buna ar fi ca populatia va avea costuri mai mici cu gazele si ca marii consumatori de gaz vor putea sa-si mareasca activitatea cu aceleasi costuri cu energia. Dar traim in Romania si simpaticul Valcov e arhicunoscut pentru talentul aratat in potlogarii.

LE. Sunt curios cum vede UE tarasenia asta, stiindu-i foarte atenti cu dumpingul si subventiile.

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