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C@talin
post 9 Jan 2007, 18:20
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cum e domne cu hdi asta ,am auzit ca are nustu ce rezervor de aditiv pe sub masina FAP cica, ca poti avea probleme cu el daca alimentezi cu nustu ce motorina,de la ce vine "H" ala,asa de curiozitate icon_mrgreen.gif


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post 9 Jan 2007, 18:22
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post 9 Jan 2007, 18:37
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vezi ca au forum la peugeot , cred ca acolo gasesti mult mai multe info:)


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post 9 Jan 2007, 19:14
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QUOTE(C@talin @ 9 Jan 2007, 18:20)
cum e domne cu hdi asta ,am auzit ca are nustu ce rezervor de aditiv pe sub masina FAP cica, ca poti avea probleme cu el daca alimentezi cu nustu ce motorina,de la ce vine "H" ala,asa de curiozitate icon_mrgreen.gif
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FAP din cate stiu eu inseamna Filtru Activ de Particule.

HDI: High Diesel Injection

Din cate stiu eu e o marie cu alta palarie, i.e. tot motor turbo injectie diesel dar cu marca Peugeot/Ford

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post 10 Jan 2007, 10:01
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FAP ala e doar ca sa nu polueze. O ciudatenie inventata de francezi, care in germania s-ar putea sa fie obligatorie. Desi s-a demonstrat ca nu face nimic.

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post 10 Jan 2007, 12:40
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QUOTE(bj @ 9 Jan 2007, 19:14)
HDI: High Diesel Injection
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Din ceea ce stiu eu:

HDi = High Pressure Diesel direct injection; motor patentat de Groupe PSA.


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post 10 Jan 2007, 13:01
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HDI este echivalentul TDCI-ului de la Ford, este vorba de injectie diesel cu rampa comuna (common-rail). Se foloseste la Peugeot si Citroen.
Modul de functionare, pe scurt, pompa de motorina (de inalte presiune) baga motorina nu direct in injector ca la injectia clasica, ci intr-o rampa comuna (unde se creaza o presiune mai mare) si de acolo ECU comanda deschiderea injectoarelor in functie de necesitati. Avantajul este un zgomot mult mai redus al motorului (acel tacanit specific dieselului este mult diminuat) si o mai eficienta utilizare a motorinei ceea ce duce la un consum mai mic. Dezavantajul e ca daca motorina e proasta (ceea ce e frecvent la noi) cu mizerie si cu particole in suspensie, se infunda mai frecvent injectoarele.

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post 10 Jan 2007, 23:44
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m-am lamurit cum e cu hdi,da mai am o nedumerire,cum reuseste pejo sa scoata din motorul 1.4 benzina 90 de caluti si din 1.6 110 ?


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post 11 Jan 2007, 08:36
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post 11 Jan 2007, 09:35
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post 11 Jan 2007, 09:45
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Tot asa cum scoate Renaul din 1.5l 110CP, sau VW din 1.9l 150CP: turbina puternica.


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post 11 Jan 2007, 10:18
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post 11 Jan 2007, 19:53
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QUOTE(C@talin @ 9 Jan 2007, 18:20)
am auzit ca are nustu ce rezervor de aditiv pe sub masina FAP cica,
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Aditivul ala este AdBlue si ajuta la normele de poluare cica...


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post 11 Jan 2007, 20:00
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Un soi de catalizator cu un fluid activ, o chestie mai mult de fite.


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post 11 Jan 2007, 20:22
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QUOTE(Mario_b @ 11 Jan 2007, 19:53)
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am auzit ca are nustu ce rezervor de aditiv pe sub masina FAP cica,

Aditivul ala este AdBlue si ajuta la normele de poluare cica...
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de ce va place sa scrieti prostii. Daca tot aveti acces la internet, da-ti si voi un google inainte de a scrie o ineptie.

AdBlue mai are mult de mancat pana sa devina o solutie fiabila cel putin la Peugeot.

FAP inseamna pur si simplu Filtru Activ de Particule (din francezul "filtre à. particules") si este daca vrei o varianta imbunatatita de catalizator. Din pacate nici o picatura de AdBlue (sau uree) nu circula prin acest FAP. Ba chiar sunt putin in competitie. Daca ai citi un pic pe net ai vedea ca primele masini Euro4 diesel au fost HDI+FAP, apoi AdBlue, sau Bluetec cum mai este cunoscut, a devenit o alternativa pentru a se ajunge la Euro4 diferita de FAP.

in curand o sa ajungem sa spunem ca AdBlue (care e de fapt uree) si RedBull au ceva in comun, dat fiind ca, se stie, RedBull contine taurina care este fapt si de drept urina de taur...

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post 11 Jan 2007, 23:26
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Cine scrie prosti?
Omu a zis ceva de un rezervor de aditiv si eu i-am zis ca aditivul ala e AdBlue.


Nu beau RedBull. tongue.gif


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