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post 12 Jun 2020, 09:44
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post 12 Jun 2020, 16:53
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Renault se teme de avalanșa de mașini electrice din China care sosesc în Europa: "Va fi o concurență dură"

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"Vom avea o concurență dură din interiorul și din exteriorul Europei. Trebuie să ne adaptăm rapid pentru a contracara noii veniți", a declarat Jean-Dominique Senard, președintele Grupului Renault, citat de publicația Automotive News.

În plus, producătorul chinez Aiways a anunțat deja semnarea unui contract cu serviciul de închirieri de mașini Hertz pentru o flotă de mașini electrice în Corsica. În prezent, producătorii europeni mizează puternic pe parteneriate cu servicii de rent-a-car și car-sharing pentru a-și extinde rapid vânzările.

"Există multe start-up-uri care produc mașini elecrice, inclusiv unul care testează SUV-uri în Corsica pentru a vedea dacă sunt adaptate pieței europene, pentru ca ulterior să le vândă în toată Europa", a mai precizat Senard.

Renault s-a temut de fiecare data de concurenta. Indiferent pe ce tip de motorizare era.
Dar sa incepi acum (Renault insista in trecut ca ei pe electric sunt pionieri, ca ei prind experienta (este ainstaine???), ca ei sunt miezu') sa te plangi, penibil. Vai, dam faliment, vrem bani. ...... de manageri, au stiu doar sa fure. Si dupa ce pleaca, statul trebuie sa aiba grija de angajati, ca altfel ajung in somaj.

Concurenta in electric aduce numai avantaje pentru toata lumea. Tehnologii noi, scaderea pretului la componente, scaderea pretului la masini. Asa ca, la munca Renault, nu la intins mana.

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post 15 Jun 2020, 12:06
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stii sa-l injuri pe ghosn, ia zi tu al cui a fost ZOE? ca de vandut vinde
https://cleantechnica.com/2020/03/03/renaul...v-sales-report/

apoi zi-mi cine asigura garantia chinezariilor, ca garaje EV independente nu prea am vazut asa multe. Si calificarea de electrician la 400V nu e asa usor/ieftin de obtinut.

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post 15 Jun 2020, 20:09
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post 17 Jun 2020, 21:53
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Ore exista in Romania primari de orase mari cu asemenea curaj ? Vezi articolul !

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post 18 Jun 2020, 22:03
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Tu faci misto, sau atat poti ?

Intre timp:

https://en.media.groupe.renault.com/news/ne...0f42-989c5.html

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post 22 Jun 2020, 19:42
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Din punctul meu de vedere e o alegere cam proasta...apropierea de ce e tot mai mare!

https://www.capital.ro/schimbari-la-conduce...e-compania.html


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post 25 Jun 2020, 14:43
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post 26 Jun 2020, 11:58
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Viitoare modelel Toyota electrice:
https://www.automobile-magazine.fr/voitures...ota-electriques

26 Jun 2020, 16:17:
Masinile nu mai poti fi lasate abandonate pe spatiul public mai mult de 6 luni:
https://www.profit.ro/povesti-cu-profit/aut...nzilor-19403288

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post 30 Jun 2020, 10:03
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post 30 Jun 2020, 22:05
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post 1 Jul 2020, 12:31
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post 1 Jul 2020, 21:36
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Se pare ca grupul Renault nu sta chiar asa rau la vanzari. Vezi aici !


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post 3 Jul 2020, 14:53
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Dupa alegeri vor veni sigur cu taxe !


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post 6 Jul 2020, 08:38
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QUOTE(Andy_ACS @ 2 Jul 2020, 10:49)


si la noi .. copie dupa RAv4 ..

https://economie.hotnews.ro/stiri-consumato...plug-marcii.htm



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post 6 Jul 2020, 09:20
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pai asta o fost trocul in 2019. suzuki le da motoare ..toyo le da plug in ul si know how ul...adica drepturile de copy paste.

sunt tare curios de pret...sigur nu va fi 40k ca se loveste de rav...etc

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post 6 Jul 2020, 09:26
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daca nu i-a apucat harnicia sa isi bage degetutele .. si daca dau preturile mai jos decat originalul ... o sa fie un succes.


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post 6 Jul 2020, 09:29
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vom vedea...succesul lui..desi vad preturi de 30k...cam mult pt end userul suzuki dar poate iau din felia de mid premium

si eu zic ca au facut bine..au luat ceva ce pe testat de 15 ani...20 ani. de toyo


QUOTE(cj98czh @ 6 Jul 2020, 09:26)
si daca dau preturile mai jos decat originalul
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care original..ca daca dai jos emblema de pe grila si de pe volan 99.99 e toyo biggrin.gif

Urmeaza suzuki corolla radmasa.gif

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QUOTE(wolfin @ 6 Jul 2020, 10:20)
pai asta o fost trocul in 2019. suzuki le da motoare ..toyo le da plug in ul si know how ul...adica drepturile de copy paste.


Ceea ce spui nu este in totalitatea adevarat. Dar da bine.
Sa informam corect, toyota le va va sistemul hybrid to tot ce tine de el iar toyota va folosi anumite motoare create de suzuki, in general de cilindree mica pt piata din India, Africa si pe cateva modele europe gen aygo, yaris, corolla (poate): https://www.greencarcongress.com/2019/03/20...yotasuzuki.html

Toyota va folosi motoarele produse in casa pt modelele care nu folosesc motoare de drujba.

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Am crezut ca nu e relevant sa specific de 1.o turbojet ca de ala e vb...plus ca le mai fac si ceva masini ..incurcatura drakului...prevat o fuziune.

Si de cunosc...parca suzi n are 2.5 benzina.



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Pai este, pt ca ala e un singur motor dar din ce ai spus se intelegea ca aia de la toyota vor folosi cu precadere sau majoriate motoare elaborate de suzuki.

In orice caz sunt curios la ce pret va aparea acest phev, ca daca va fi mult sub toyota prime atunci clar il va canibaliza grav si va musca mult din vanzarile toyota. Este de urmarit pretul si raportat la outlander phev.

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post 6 Jul 2020, 14:23
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30...35.k as zice pt inceput..apoi dupa 2 ani la facelift or sa sara calu.

Vedem...viitorul suna sumbru.

Suzi face 3 motoare 1.0 t , 1.2 si 1.4t parca. 1.6 diesel fiat a zburat ca si cel pe benzina vvti

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Un hybrid rav4 luxury acum se duce la 42k. Un prime poate veni in continuare si sa se duca spre 50k care cu reduceri ajunge pe la 45k.
Daca suzuki vinde aceeasi masina cu toate dotarile la 35k atunci prime-ul nu va avea multe sanse iar batalia se va da intre across si outlander care in configul maxim costa undeva la 45k din care se scad tichetele rabla si rabla plus.

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post 6 Jul 2020, 14:32
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corect, alea fara motoare de drujba au motor BMW


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Mai citeste...


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post 7 Jul 2020, 07:25
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primul yaris 4 iese de pe linia de fabricatie;.Observ economia de vopsea pe lonjeroane, desi masina sigur ajunge la preturi duble cat un logan
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Poze cu modelul electric Dacia. Masina avea sigla Renault.

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