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florikah
post 17 Oct 2010, 11:23
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Cum se codeaza o noua cheie de Duster? Banuiesc ca e acelasi lucru ca si la Logan.

Am ddt2000 + cablu OBD 2 si procedura ar fi urmatoarea:

"Se porneste ddt cu contactul luat, se selecteaza UCH.

Screens->start/stop communication->Play continuosly
All tools->Special->Manual request

Se scrie si se trimit urmatoarele:

10A0 - uch raspunde cu 50
21d8 raspunde cu un string lung

Se selecteaza de la sectiunea 2...12 caractere, primele caractere dupa ...0000 = cod ISK (vezi poza 0.jpg)


Codul generat APV se scrie in:
Screens->Apprentissage Cles->Apprentissage/reaffectation APV->Code APV
"Start App. APV", in casuta "Code APV reconnu" trebuie sa apara "oui" si se pune contactul cate 4 secunde cu fiecare cheie ce urmeaza a se programa (inclusiv cheile deja functionale). Dupa ce toate cheile s-au programat se apasa "Valider"."

Problema e cum se generaza APV din ISK ? Are cineva generatorul ?

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post 17 Oct 2010, 12:13
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Da.

10A0 este mod BE, 21D8 este info APV

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post 17 Oct 2010, 12:55
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cum se obtine APV din ISK ?


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post 22 Oct 2010, 20:43
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Am obtinut ISK. Cine ma ajuta cu un generator pt APV ? Generatorul pe care il am eu da numai x-uri in loc de apv.

Edit: Si inca ceva, cum pot sa fac un dump de memorie uch prin obd 2 ???

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post 22 Oct 2010, 22:43
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x-uri iti da pentru ca nu bagi ce trebuie in el. Oricum, te chinui degeaba.


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post 23 Oct 2010, 09:21
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Merci de incurajare si de informatiile nepretuite!


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post 24 Oct 2010, 12:09
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Cand o sa selectezi ce trebuie din stringul ala lung, atunci nu o sa iti para x-uri. Si un caracter decalat este de ajuns pentru asta.


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post 24 Oct 2010, 12:42
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am luat isk ca la logan : 12 caractere dupa 0-uri.


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post 24 Oct 2010, 14:49
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Ce referinta are uch-ul?

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post 31 Oct 2010, 16:33
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posteaza aici tot stringul care ti-l afiseaza in ddt


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post 7 Nov 2010, 14:50
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ca sa faci aceasta procedura ai nevoie de niste mici utilitare, gen cele atasate

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post 7 Nov 2010, 18:31
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sunteti voi siguri ca la Duster merge smecheria cu cheile?


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post 7 Nov 2010, 19:50
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S-a umplut netul de generatorul ala. Avea dreptate cine l-a facut, ca nu este bine sa fie dat. Oricum, de la Duster, pa-pa chei ... radmasa.gif

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post 7 Nov 2010, 20:08
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Ms pentru sfaturi,am reusit sa codez ieri cheia de duster cu ddt2000 si cu generatorul de coduri de mai sus.


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post 7 Nov 2010, 20:27
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QUOTE(klaus @ 7 Nov 2010, 18:31)
sunteti voi siguri ca la Duster merge smecheria cu cheile?
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este acelasi uch ca la logan, de ce n-ar merge?


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Cica sunt si altele decat la Logan.


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post 7 Nov 2010, 21:03
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djcristi, sigur ai vazut si ai folosit generatorul pe asa ceva?


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post 7 Nov 2010, 21:13
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astea sunt mai rare , ce cod de renault au pe cutie?


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post 4 Jan 2011, 14:21
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Bun forumul asta. Am mai invatat si eu ceva. Multumesc celor care au dezvaluit cate ceva.


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post 11 Jan 2011, 01:38
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vreau si eu generatorul ala cine il are sa imi dea un pm sau un email la picyulik@gmail.com


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post 19 Feb 2011, 13:42
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QUOTE(djcristi @ 7 Nov 2010, 14:50)
ca sa faci aceasta procedura ai nevoie de niste mici utilitare, gen cele atasate
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Am si eu o intrebare ca sa vad daca am inteles cum functioneaza: daca apesi butonul ala din DDT pe care scrie "virginizare" si merge, mai e nevoie sa citesti codul ISK ? Din cite pricepusem la virginizare se sterge comanda de stergere a codului APV, si ca atare va fi afisat de DDT la o cerere de citire.


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post 28 Feb 2011, 17:09
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Salutare. Am un Renault Kangoo din 2005 1.2V. Am DDT2000 si cablu ODB-II.
Vreau sa imi mai duplic o cheie cu telecomanda.
Am urmat instructiunile de mai sus insa rezultatul nu prea imi e de folos:
10A0 - uch raspunde cu 50
21D8 raspunde cu fraza din imagine:"Requested service $21, Negative Reply 12 : Sub function not supported or with invalid format"
Da-ti-mi o idee, ce altceva as mai putea incerca sa aflu ISK ?

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post 29 May 2014, 20:16
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Buna ziua. Un coleg a cumparat un chip pt logan nou(virgin) si vrem sa il programam pe masina. Am aflat ISK-ul, am generat APV-ul si trebuie sa scriem cheile.
Am respectat aceasta procedura:
Codul generat APV se scrie in:
Screens->Apprentissage Cles->Apprentissage/reaffectation APV->Code APV
"Start App. APV", in casuta "Code APV reconnu" trebuie sa apara "oui" si se pune contactul cate 4 secunde cu fiecare cheie ce urmeaza a se programa (inclusiv cheile deja functionale). Dupa ce toate cheile s-au programat se apasa "Valider"."

Am bagat coul APV fara spatii in casuta code APV, am dat start, a aparut OUI si am bagat prima cheie in contact cea fara chip, am lasat-o 4 secunde pana ce martorul de immo s-a stins, apoi aceeasi procedura cu cea de-a doua cheie si am apasat butonul valider. Apoi am inchis comunicatia si am incercat cheile
Daca pornesc mai intai cu cheia care inainte era buna, porneste, daca o bag pe cea noua programata merge, DAR daca inchis si deschid masina si incerc sa pornesc cu cheia ce ar fi trebuit sa fie memorata nu merge!

Am incercat in toate modurile dar la fel se intampla. Am incercat dupa ce am dat valider sa dau si abandon mode apv si tot asa face.

Unde gresesc sau cum imi dau seama daca chipul este prost sau incompatibil. Pe VAG cu vagcom-ul da eroare si nu te chinui aiurea.


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