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post 27 Oct 2007, 23:02
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post 27 Oct 2007, 23:19
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Stiam ca asa e la dci.Daca si la mpi e la fel,e ok.


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post 28 Oct 2007, 00:00
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cand am schimbat curelele la 60 000 de km cei din service mi-au recomandat cu semnul exclamarii ca e urgent la 60k sa schimb si uleiul din cutie ca asa sunt noile directive de la mioveni. m-am mirat putin ca stiam ca uleiul din cv nu se schimba la 60 000 km.

ps: inca nu l-am schimbat din lipsa de bani.


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post 28 Oct 2007, 10:11
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PaulT cand ai vreme ne spui si noua turatia motorului in treapta a 5 a la viteze mai umane, 70-80-90-100 KM/h ?
Pana la urma sunt pinioanele de pe 1.5 DCI 70CP ?


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post 28 Oct 2007, 14:57
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La 80km/h cam 2000rpm,la 90km/h 2250-2300,la 100km/h cam 2500.Pinioanele de la dci de 65cp sunt identice cu cele de la dci 70cp.La cel de 85cp au mai lungit putin rapoartele.


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post 22 Nov 2007, 11:06
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PaulT mai posteaza te rog ceva impresii, banuiesc ca ai mai facut ceva kilometri intre timp, cum se comporta cutia?
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post 22 Nov 2007, 19:07
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Se comporta la fel de bine ca inainte de schimbare,adica e la fel de silentioasa si intra la fel de bine in viteza.Cu alte cuvinte nici un efect negativ.In rest,impresiile f bune se mentin.Consumul s-a redus intr-adevar cu cat am observat la inceput si am scris in posturile anterioare,si se merge in turatii mai normale decat inainte.Sunt la fel de multumit,si sustin in continuare ca e o modificare ff reusita.Adica e o imbunatatire reala. biggrin.gif


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post 22 Nov 2007, 19:12
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Astazi am ridicat si eu de la posta coletul cu pinioanele de DCI 65/70 CP, sper in weekendul asta sa le montez. Prima oara cand vad cum arata un pinion de cutie de viteze, mi se par de jucarie, greu de crezut la prima vedere ca rezista la fortele la care sunt supuse.


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post 22 Nov 2007, 19:16
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Felicitari!!Nu cumva sa nu postezi impresiile..Arata ele ca de jucarie,dar stai linistit,rezista la mai mult decat pot motoarele noastre. sofer1.gif


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post 22 Nov 2007, 19:28
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Eu ma refeream la dintii aia si la o eventuala "caraiala" cand nu apesi bine ambreajul. Mi se par a fi din fonta si relativ casanti ....

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post 22 Nov 2007, 19:55
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Rezista.Succes la montaj.


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post 23 Nov 2007, 07:02
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Se merita oare sa pui un dura lube in cutie daca tot umbli ?
Eu ma gandeam ca daca tot da uleiul jos sa-l si schimb.
Ce fel de ulei se foloseste?
Ce cantitate e nevoie ?
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post 23 Nov 2007, 10:05
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post 29 Nov 2007, 20:07
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Corbu'---noutati?Le-ai pus pe masina?


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post 29 Nov 2007, 20:18
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N-am apucat, astept dupa programare la Renault Brasov, am un amic acolo ce mi le monteaza.

P.S. Cu ce pot sa curat pinioanele? Sunt lipicioase si au hartie lipita pe ele, pot sa folosesc detergent de vase + apa? Imi e frica sa nu pateasca ceva "fonta" aia.


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post 29 Nov 2007, 20:21
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De ce nu cu niste benzina?E mai simplu si sigur nu patesc nimic.


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post 18 Dec 2007, 23:31
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Gata, mi-am montat si eu pinioanele (sau mai bine zis mi s-au montat), totul e OK. Nu am apucat sa fac multe teste (drumuri aglomerate in oras, zapada), i-am dat pe centura intre 80-120KM/H cu a 5 a si e fix ca si la PaulT. Singurul "inconvenient" pe care l-am sesizat > trebuie schimbat un pic mai sus de la a 4 a la a 5 a, undeva pe la 90-100, inainte la mers linistit de la 75-80 ii dadeam direct a 5 a, dar este normal (evident). In weekend o sa fac un drum mai lung si o sa fac mai multe teste, dar deja stiu la ce sa ma astept.

Si cu ocazia asta am schimbat si uleiul de la cutie, mecanicul mi-a spus ca aveam mult "shpan", s-a pus ulei nou si sa zicem ca inca 2 ani mai merge. Mi-a mai zis ca desi DACIA spune sa NU se schimbe uleiul din cutie deloc, e RECOMANDAT ca macar primul ulei sa se dea afara.


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post 20 Dec 2007, 19:30
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Felicitari!!Poti merge si acum cu 75-80 fara probleme.La 80 ai 2000 rpm.Cat te-a costat uleiul,si de care ai pus?Si eu o sa il schimb pe la 20k.


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post 20 Dec 2007, 21:39
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Am mai mers seara asta si am mai testat un pic. La 70 nu prea merge, se simte cum tremura masina, dar de la 80 in sus e just right. Uleiul m-a costat o "atentie", habar nu am de care s-a pus exact, tot ce stiu e ca era 75W80 de provenienta Renault (daca sunt mai multe tipuri la ei atunci nu stiu de care este exact). Per ansamblu e OK, eu oricum in afara orasului viteza de croaziera o am cam 120-130 (pe bord si cand permite drumul), asa ca acum pentru mine o sa fie la fix.


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post 21 Dec 2007, 22:34
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Pai in mod normal nu prea ai ce cauta la 70 in treapta 5.Ma bucur ca esti multumit.La 120-130 va fi intr-adevar perfect.


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post 22 Dec 2007, 09:29
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Sunt curios cum se comporta acum masina incarcata, la un drum lung pe autostrada facut recent chiar am fost atent la chestia asta, cum dadea de un pic de panta pe mai multi kilometrii, cum trebuia sa retrogradez ca sa mentin viteza la 100/110 km/h, masina incarcata insemnand 2 adulti, 2 copii, bagaje full, plus box pe masina. Acum daca mai shimb si pinionul, combinatia bagaje plus panta o sa o faca lesinata rau........

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post 22 Dec 2007, 11:40
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Chiar la un pic de panta nu cred ca e nevoie de retrogradare.Poate era un pic mai accentuata.Nu mergea a 5-a nici daca o lansai la 130km/h cu a 4-a si schimbai dupa aceea?Mie nu mi s-a parut mai lesinata dupa schimbare la viteze pana in 150-160.

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post 22 Dec 2007, 12:02
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La o panta mai scurta nu sunt probleme, mai ales daca vi lansat, dar prin Austria, Germania, pe autostrada, sunt pante de 5-6km unde chiar daca vi lansat, pe ultima treime sa zicem, trebuie sa retrogragradezi si sa mergi cu a 4-a la 100/110km/h si toate aste cu pinionul original.De asta am unele indoieli sa fac schimbarea.......


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post 22 Dec 2007, 12:38
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Si daca este asa,oricum merita.Daca si acum retrogradezi ptr a mentine 100-110,vei face la fel si atunci,dar macar recuperezi cand nu sunt pante(sau sunt pante cu inclinatie mai redusa).


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post 22 Dec 2007, 21:48
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Poate ca am pierdut sirul si n-am fost atent, vreunul din voi (Paul sau Corbu') ati incercat viteza maxima?


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post 22 Dec 2007, 21:57
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Nu am incercat inca pentru ca nu am avut drum mai lung si liber. Maine ma duc spre Ploiesti si incerc o tentativa, numai sa fie drumul uscat intre Banesti si Baicoi (t3h testground). Si mai important sa nu fie vre-un "smecher" cu BMW ce i-a cumparat ma-sa banda a 2 a .... si sa nu se dea la o parte din calea unui Logan ph34r.gif .

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post 23 Dec 2007, 00:02
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sefu', ai grija, nene, ca nu e musai sa vezi cu ce viteza maxima poti merge... vezi ca pe bucata aia se mai pune radar... m-a agatat pe mine unul dintr-un logan alb parcat pe sensul celalalt... Drum bun


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post 23 Dec 2007, 00:38
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Se pune radar la iesirea din Banesti si eventual la intrarea de la dreapta spre Floresti, in rest e all clear. Si nu incerc sa ii dau top speed, dar stiu cam cum urca masina pe zona aia, de fiecare data cand ma duc la parinti acolo merg la blana si stiu cam cum urca, o sa incerc sa fac o comparatie.
Daca zici ca te-a agatat totusi acolo inseamna ca am fost norocos pana acum tongue.gif ....

P.S. Dsign ai inceput sa faci colectie de Loganuri? huh.gif

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post 23 Dec 2007, 00:53
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off topic: unul a meu, unul al lui tata, unul la birou... inca nu l-am pus pe al mamei, care o sa vina in curind smile.gif


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post 23 Dec 2007, 09:23
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Chiar maxim,maxim nu am incercat,dar am reusit sa trec un pic de linia de 180km/h.Cred ca ar mai fi urcat putin,dar nu am insistat.Turatia era pe la 4600rpm.Dar eu am incercat asta pe autostrada.


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