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post 2 Mar 2012, 12:49
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http://www.4tuning.ro/masini-tari/video-0-...rive-12655.html

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post 2 Mar 2012, 13:03
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Doua turbine cu geometrie variabila si una cu geometrie fixa dependenta de prima turbina cu geometrie variabila ! wub.gif


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post 2 Mar 2012, 13:09
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Pe hartie sta foarte bine, sa-l vedem dupa ceva km cand or incepe sa pice turbo biggrin.gif


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post 2 Mar 2012, 13:20
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doh.gif Ce complicaciune de motor...


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post 2 Mar 2012, 13:22
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post 2 Mar 2012, 19:37
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Maine o sa vedem motoare in stea cu 6 cilindrii cu turbina pentru fiecare cilindru.

Faza ca,,,,,,, cad turbinele nu cred ca e valabila si aici, inafara de logan 1.5 dci si alte nemtesti vechi de 10 ani nu am auzi sa cada asa in masa, plus de asta turbinele alea merg cand una cand alta iar la turatie mare se ajuta una pe alta deci ar trebui sa tina muult mai mult decat una pe un motor single turbo.


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post 2 Mar 2012, 19:48
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intreaba la un service din grupul VW de turbinele de pe motoarele pe benzina astea mai noi, cam ce parerea au despre ele.
Poti sa-i intrebi si de kitul de reparatie...


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post 2 Mar 2012, 20:16
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Chiar ma gandeam cat de fiabila este turbina la 1,2 tsi daca mergi asa cum iti arata calculatorul de bord !


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post 2 Mar 2012, 20:48
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QUOTE(Speedy @ 2 Mar 2012, 13:49)
http://www.4tuning.ro/masini-tari/video-0-...rive-12655.html

http://www.4tuning.ro/inovatii-auto/video-...-bmw-12719.html
Cateva date adunate la un loc:

3 litri
381 cp
0-100km/h  sub 5 secunde
max rpm  5500
consum 6,3l %
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post 2 Mar 2012, 20:53
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BMW stiu sa faca motoare, totusi nu prea inteleg de ce ai vrea un M diesel?


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post 2 Mar 2012, 20:57
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Daca lipsea litera M din nume era mai bine ?


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post 2 Mar 2012, 21:01
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Normal, nu ar trebuie sa puna M pe orice, strica imaginea, deja s-au facut de ras cu X5 si X6 M.


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post 2 Mar 2012, 21:10
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Cumperi masina sau imaginea ?


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QUOTE(4x4 @ 2 Mar 2012, 20:53)
nu prea inteleg de ce ai vrea un M diesel?
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740Nm ?????


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post 2 Mar 2012, 21:37
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NUUU ... 381 cai si 740nm cuplu biggrin.gif dintr-un motor de 3 litrii diesel care face 0-100 sub 5 sec. biggrin.gif ... poate de aia biggrin.gif


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post 2 Mar 2012, 21:58
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saispe face asocierea intre papuc disel si bemveu diesel ca doar amandoua sunt diesel ce doamne iarta-ma


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post 2 Mar 2012, 22:11
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QUOTE(4x4 @ 2 Mar 2012, 21:01)
deja s-au facut de ras cu X5 si X6 M.
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post 3 Mar 2012, 10:35
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QUOTE(4x4 @ 2 Mar 2012, 21:53)
BMW stiu sa faca motoare pe benzina, totusi nu prea inteleg de ce ai vrea un M diesel?
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Te-am corectat eu, cel putin la diesel era muci, si-o mai fi revenit intre timp.


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post 3 Mar 2012, 12:15
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oare cu cine colaboreaza la motoare. pu peugeot, care sunt un nume foarte greu in materie de motoare diesel inca din anii 80.
vrei diesel te uiti la vag si la psa

psa s-a ales cu avantaje la motoare pe benzina, si bmw la diesel


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post 3 Mar 2012, 12:40
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QUOTE(argon @ 3 Mar 2012, 10:35)
Te-am corectat eu, cel putin la diesel era muci, si-o mai fi revenit intre timp.
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BMW nu a fost muci niciodata la capitolul motoare diesel... Nici pe departe. wink.gif


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post 3 Mar 2012, 12:54
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Pana prin '96-'98 nu erau prea stralucite dieselurile de la bmw, nici ca fiabilitate nici ca performante


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post 3 Mar 2012, 13:25
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Mda, E34 525tds batea la popou multe dieseluri cu 140 CP prin 95.
E adevarat ca bucata de 4 cilindrii taiata din dansul nu a stralucit pe 318tds.
Au avut si generatii mai slabe, parca cea de 2 litrii cu 135CP dar per ansamblu nu-s de dat cu cartofi dupa ei.
Venind in zilele noastre: WOW!
1 turbina mica cu geometrie variabila pt turatie mica
1 turbina mare fara geometrie variabila pt cuplu zdravan la turatie medie
1 turbina mica cu geometrie variabila pt putere mare la turatie mare
Putere si cuplu mai mult de cat avea 4.4dturbo.
Frumoasa realizare, sper sa fie si fiabila. Cand s-o deregla ai ciufulit barzoiul, nu ti-l mai repara nimeni in romanica.
Sa speram si la un 2,0 turbodiesel cu aceeasi tehnologie, pe la 250 CP?

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post 3 Mar 2012, 14:07
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http://forum.4tuning.ro/291-discutii-bmw/2...vs-tds-e39.html
Nu stiu la ce le batea, ca la fiabilitate sigur nu tongue.gif


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post 3 Mar 2012, 16:12
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Exploatate corespunzator motoarele au tinut destul de bine.
Acum au 5-600 000 km, cat vrei sa tina, cat Muntii Carpati?
Pune si calitatea lipsa a motorinei romanesti, intretinerea deficitara si vezi de ce au cazut destule motoare.
Oricum, pemfeurile n-au fost niciodata monument de fiabilitate, fie ele pe benzina sau nafta.


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post 3 Mar 2012, 16:24
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QUOTE(l@u @ 2 Mar 2012, 21:58)
saispe face asocierea intre papuc disel si bemveu diesel ca doar amandoua sunt diesel ce doamne iarta-ma
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Nu, motorul meu diesel preferat e cel de pe A8 D3, 4.2L V8, tdi.
Nu sunt fan diesel, iar cand dai destul de multi bani ca sa ai o masina puternica si se te poti bucura de condus nu vad de ce ai alege un diesel.

QUOTE(Catalinmodena @ 2 Mar 2012, 22:11)
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Diviza Motorsport era pentru puristi maximul ce o masina poate atinge, dedicata condusului, un adevarat cuncurent pe circuituri, dar ambalat in o varianta ce face fata si utilizarii de zi cu zi pe strada.

Nu diesel, si nu o casa cu roti. Ai franat un X6 M vreodata?


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post 3 Mar 2012, 16:35
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QUOTE(4x4 @ 3 Mar 2012, 16:24)
pe circuituri
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Unde ma? blink.gif


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post 3 Mar 2012, 16:41
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biggrin.gif Buna de bula aia.

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post 3 Mar 2012, 18:05
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impreuna cu tine !


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post 3 Mar 2012, 18:28
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16...ce tip de motoare a castigat la lemans in ultimii 5 ani? da in paris dakar?

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post 3 Mar 2012, 19:05
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Lasa competiile de rezistenta, doar nu ai sa conduci 2 zile nonstop, restul 90% din masinile de competitie sunt pe benzina. Doar pentru sunet ar trebui sa alegi benzina daca vrei senzatii, raspuns la pedala, turatii inalte. Cuplu e placut dar nu atinge corzile potrivite pentru mine.


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