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post 31 Jan 2010, 22:04
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Cei de la Renault au recunoscut ca s-au inspirat de la Nissan ... doar detin 55% din companie ... dar sistemul are doar ideea japonezilor ... tehnologia ce e drept e frantuzeasca ...
Sistemul implementat de Nissan in anii 90 era pur mecanic ... pe cand cel de la Renault este electronic si tine cont de diferiti factori ... viteza .. accelerare laterala ... etc.





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Superba masina. Sa o stapanesti sanatos smile.gif


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Am mai intrebat odata, cred ca nu ai observat...prin Bacau cand ajungi? smile.gif


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Prin Bacau habar nu am cand ajung ... probabil in vara ... dar nimic nu e sigur. In orice caz in prima joi cand sunt in Bacau ajung si la intalnire wink.gif


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Suntem in 6, ceva vesti?!? tongue.gif


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cred ca deja a pus la munca masinuta tongue.gif


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post 7 Feb 2010, 15:29
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Gata ... am revenit ph34r.gif . Ca prime pareri dupa vreo 600 km ... WOW . Motorul asta te scoate din orice situatie ... parca are turbina permanent. Ca diferente intre Laguna 2 si Laguna 3 GT ar fi urmatoarele:

1. Confortul in scaune - imi este dor de scaunele de Laguna 2 ... erau cat de cat mai confortabile. Acum nu neg ... scaunele de pe Laguna 3 sunt ceva mai sport ... marginile mai ridicate ... putin mai tari dar pana la urma ma invat si cu ele.

2. Comenzile mai "dure" - ambreiajul, servodirectie si cutia de viteze imi par mai ... "inchegate" ... se simt ce e drept veleitatile sportive ale acestui model. In orice caz este multtt mai stabila ca Laguna 2 ... si sistemul 4WS isi merita toate laudele.

3. Suspensia - amortizoarele sport combinate cu jantele pe 18" se simt ce e drept. Nu credeam ca in Franta drumurile au asa multe denivelari ... sau cel putin cu Laguna 2 nu le simteam.

Tin inca odata sa laud sistemul de virare al rotilor din spate ... cred ca este cea mai usoar de condus masina in care m-am urcat. Tinand cont de marime si greutate se conduce nemaipomenit. In curbe o mare parte a fortei centrifuge care te arunca este contracarata de sistemul 4Control ... si chiar se simte. Dupa primul plin, consumul s-a ridicat la peste 9.5% ... dar nici nu am stat rolleyes.gif . Farurile bi-xenon directional sunt nemaipomenite ... nici nu imi imaginam cat conteaza sa vezi "dupa curba" cool.gif .

Am reusit azi sa fac ceva poze ... a plouat non stop pe aici asa ca scuzati jegul care era inevitabil blush.gif .

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am observat ca Renault a inceput sa foloseasca baterii Varta rolleyes.gif

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si kitul de umflare ...

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multumim pentru impresii sunt bucuros ca esti multimit de masina tongue.gif si de felul cum se misca


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post 7 Feb 2010, 15:57
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Daca tot e jurnal de bord hai sa incep si eu.

- 14.200 km - revizie inainte de vanzare (ulei, filtre etc ... 88 puncte de control)
- 14.500 km - butonul TEL de pe consola GPS nu functioneaza ... sapt viitoare urmeaza sa schimbe toata consola pe garantie.
- 14.500 km - trage putin dreapta .... sursa inca neidentificata. Marti urmeaza sa merg in service sa caute "buba"


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Sa o stapanesti sanatos! Poate pui si un video cu sunetul motorului/esapamentului biggrin.gif


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post 7 Feb 2010, 17:53
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Degeaba il pun . Am ramas surprins de sunetul evacuarii ... care nu prea e ... La 4000 de ture abia il auzi tongue.gif. GT-ul e facut mai mult pentru confort decat zgomot . Pe autostrada la 140 .. 150 e mult mai silentioasa ca vechea Laguna 2 1.8 16v.


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Felicitari pentru achizitie. Multi sunt invidiosi pe tine pentru masina asta (si eu sunt tongue.gif ). Este cea mai tare Laguna pe care Renault a facut-o pana acum.
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sa o stapanesti sanatos si cati mai multi km fara probleme . am vazut la showroom laguna 3 gt prea frumos wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif
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Interesanta masinuta, cat mai multi km fara probleme sa ai cu ea, apropo cum procedezi cu kitul de reparatie/vulcanizare a rotii in caz ca..? smile.gif


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uite asa ...



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E absolut superba ! Iti urez sa te bucuri de ea la maxim .


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Superba! Sa o conduci sanatos si fara probleme. Un sfat amical: Sa ai grija la pielea de pe volan. Daca porti verigheta. Tipul de piele de pe volan se exfoliaza in timp daca nu ai grija.


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Felicitari inca o data ptr masina. Cred ca esti printre cei mai invidiati (constructiv vb) membrii de pe forum.


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post 7 Feb 2010, 21:12
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Vai ma faci sa rosesc blush.gif ... merci . Am ales versiunea asta total impotriva paerilor prietenilor si cunoscutior care toti imi ziceau ... "bai nu stii ce face un Passat tedeii sau un Bmw 320". Acum am sa le arat ce face un motor sport Renault ph34r.gif . Nu imi pare rau deloc de alegerea facuta ... siguranta care ti-o da la condus e exceptionala. In orice caz la banii pe care i-am dat nu cred ca gaseam ceva asemanator ... la 14.000km si inca in garantie.

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pai 320 are mai multi cai decat a ta in varianta turbo-diesel si aceeasi cai in varianta benzina-aspirat... biggrin.gif


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Salut,

Absolut superba masina. Trec des prin Nanterre, o sa imi arunc privirea mai atent prin jur cand sunt acolo. smile.gif

Poti sa explici mai bine care este treaba cu rotile directionale pe spate ? Eventual sa ne faci un filmutet sa vedem mai clar care este treaba ? Merci !

La consum cum sta ?

Multa bafta si drumuri fara accidente ! Sa o stapanesti sanatos !


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ma scuzati..dar...ce solutie stupida pentru pene...apropos, cat costa la reno kitul reinoit, ca la magazin iei cu 50 ron solutia+compresor. Cauciucuri runflat sau in cel mai rau caz o rezerva subtire era solutia perfecta dupa mine.

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QUOTE(naighba @ 7 Feb 2010, 21:12)
Am ales versiunea asta total impotriva paerilor prietenilor si cunoscutior care toti imi ziceau ... "bai nu stii ce face un Passat tedeii sau un Bmw 320". Acum am sa le arat ce face un motor sport Renault  ph34r.gif .  In orice caz la banii pe care i-am dat nu cred ca gaseam ceva asemanator ...
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QUOTE(semit @ 7 Feb 2010, 23:19)
pai 320 are mai multi cai decat a ta in varianta turbo-diesel si aceeasi cai in varianta benzina-aspirat... biggrin.gif
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Hai nu-i stricati omului topicul...
Stie el de ce si-a luat Laguna, mai ales c-o cauta d-atata vreme. Daca voia bemveu' isi gasea fara indoiala.


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Sa incerc sa va raspund la toti ...

Sistemul 4Control :





In legatura cu bemveul tongue.gif ... nu ma refeream doar la putere ... . Un bemveu seria 3 cu cateva optiuni ... nu chiar varianta Confort care e "cheala" ...sare lejer de 25.000 la mana a 2 a. O varianta care se aseamana cat de cat ... scaune piele electrice ... GPS ... un design cat de cat sportiv ... ar fi varianta Luxe care ajunge peste 30.000 la SH cu peste 15.000km din 2008...2009. Si pentru a echivala 4Control ar fi Xdrive .... care ajunge cam la dublu ce am platit eu pentru GT. Chiar daca are 14.000 km si inca un an de garantie de fabrica este tot un SH ... recunosc ... dar asa am castigat 15.000 de euro fata de pretul de catalog ...
Asa decat sa vada lumea ca am bemveuuu ... mai bine ma simt eu bine si in siguranta in Renault cool.gif .

8 Feb 2010, 12:05:
Nanterre e in zona pariziana din cate stiu ... asa ca e la cca 250 km de mine.
In legatura cu kitul de umflare ... habar nu am cat costa inlocuirea sticlutei si a furtunului. Voi intreba marti la Renault ca am programare pentru schimbarea consolei GPS. Ma gandeam la cumpararea unui spray adecvat la rotile pe 18" pentru pene. Acum nu stiu ce efect va avea lichidul din spray asupra senzorilor de presiune din pneuri ?...

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Pai atunci tu nu locuiesti la Paris ... eu am vazut placa de inmatriculare cu 92 si 92 este Hauts-de-Seine.

Fain sistemul asta cu 4 roti directionale.

Si zici ca masina iti trage dreapta (sau stanga) din motive inca necunoscute ? Sigur nu a fost accidentata fata sau spate ? Ai facut geometria, echilibrare roti etc ?

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Placile de inmatriculare sunt provizorii ... sapt asta imi vor veni cele definitive pe departamentu 10 ...
Masina a fost a directiunii Renault si sunt mai mult ca sigur ca nu a fost lovita. Exista o clauza in contract care se numeste "garantie vice caches" adica garantie pe vicii ascunse. Am verificat si istoricul de service care este curat ... il voi "murdari" eu acum cu schimbul consolei GPS pe garantie.

P.S E o chestie ciudata cutrasul dreapta ... si la Laguna 2 pe care o aveam dupa circa 15000 de km rulati pe autostrada cu pneuri noi am exact acelasi simptom. In orice caz imi vor verifica maine si problema asta ... dar daca se dovedeste a fi de la pneuri ... nu am ce face ... si din ce am vazut 4 pneuri Bridgestone Potenza 225/45/18 costa la Renault 1100 euro ohmy.gif

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QUOTE(naighba @ 8 Feb 2010, 08:56)
. Si pentru a echivala 4Control ar fi Xdrive ....
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bmw echivaleaza 4 control prin suspensi mai rigide directie mai precisa si distributia greutatii 50%fata 50%spate, nu mi-o lua in nume de rau, dar seria 3 e una dintre cele mai manevrabile masini din clasa, peste tot ce poate sa ofere concurenta, de acolo si pretul mai mare..........in afara de asta ai o masina senzationala, culoarea si interiorul fac toti bani...


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