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post 21 Apr 2008, 15:18
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Cam o reducere a Cx-ului, ca nu mai intra aerul prin 2 gauri ci numai prin una (cea din spoiler.)


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post 21 Apr 2008, 15:34
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Aripioarele de pe palfon au rol aerodinamic - dirijeaza fluxul de aer pe cupola si reduc turbulentele ce apara in partea din spate (portbagaj). Reducerea turbulentelor reduce automat frecarea cu aerul.
Spoilerul obturat in partea superioara are rolul de a reduce frecarea si a imbunatati curgerea curentilor de aer in partea frontala. De asemenea, e posibil ca masca sa fie acoperita si pentru a ridica mai rapid temperatura motorului la valoarea de functionare in parametri (atunci cand motorul emite noxe minime).

Toate aceste detalii -si altele- imbunatatesc aerodinamica masinii si implicit reduc si consumul. wink.gif


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post 21 Apr 2008, 15:51
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QUOTE(TAW @ 21 Apr 2008, 15:34)
Aripioarele de pe palfon au rol aerodinamic
neata ... se numeste vortex ....

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post 21 Apr 2008, 16:02
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Dupa mine le zice "stimulator de turbulenta", si sunt imprumutate din aeronautica. Ideea e ca un strat limita turbulent se desprinde mai greu de suprafata solida decit unul laminar; unele avioane (ex. B737) au asemenea stimulatoare pe extradosul aripii. Rolul lor este (asa cum le spune numele) sa creeze turbulenta in stratul limita, an asa fel incit sa nu apara fenomenul desprinderii in aval de ele. Nu-mi dau seama in ce sectiune a plafonului sunt amplasate, dar ar trebui sa impiedice (reduca) formarea unui turbion in zona lunetei.


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post 21 Apr 2008, 16:08
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Am pus mai demult ... spor la aprofundat

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post 21 Apr 2008, 17:57
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cica teava aia de espament curbata se pune de obicei la masinile echipate cu motoare diesel; de ce oare?

P.S.: Ma, da' voi astia din Pipera de la NG1 (RTR), aveti timp gramada de stati pe net toata ziua de la servici, oare voi cu asta va ocupati? parca auzisem ca aveti acolo un fel de centru de cercetare sau ma-nsel eu?....


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post 21 Apr 2008, 19:31
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Eu n-as zice ca e obturat calandrul, ci aerul este dirijat in sus. In poza asa apare datorita unghiului de fotografiere.
Daca merge cineva maine ca sa-l vada, sa-i faca o poza "de jos". Am asa o impresie ca acolo sunt niste gauri.


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post 21 Apr 2008, 20:44
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QUOTE(giullia24 @ 21 Apr 2008, 17:57)
P.S.: Ma, da' voi astia din Pipera de la NG1 (RTR), aveti timp gramada de stati pe net toata ziua de la servici, oare voi cu asta va ocupati? parca auzisem ca aveti acolo un fel de centru de cercetare sau ma-nsel eu?....
E lasa ca nici voi la Pitesti nu sunteti mai prejos. Nu-i asa Iuliane? Sau preferi celalalt nume?

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post 21 Apr 2008, 21:10
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Eu zic ca e obturat, dar dupa ce a venit colegul meu sa traga de vortex generator, ne-au rugat frumos sa nu mai punem mana.
Nu sunt in NG1, sunt in NG2, si nu ma ocup cu cercetarea, eu chiar muncesc.


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post 21 Apr 2008, 22:22
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Incet incet membrii de vaza ai forumului ies din anonimat ca navele romulane de sub camuflaj smile.gif
E bine ca avem si pareri "autorizate" pe forum.

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post 22 Apr 2008, 07:03
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Esapamentul la dieseluri e indreptat in jos ca sa nu umple bara de funingine, insa aici cred ca mai e un motiv. Deoarece suspectez masina ca ar avea un fund plat, probabil ca acolo depresiunea e mai mare decat in spatele masinii, imbunatatind evacuarea.


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post 22 Apr 2008, 07:17
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Sau niste carenaje in plus pe sub masina ... poate bagi aparatul si sub ea.


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post 22 Apr 2008, 07:26
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Are carenaj sub bara spate, imbunatatirea aerodinamica este semnificativa acolo.
Eu as fi curios daca au acoperit si tunelul central (pe unde circula esapamentul) si ce forma are scutul motor


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post 22 Apr 2008, 07:57
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post 22 Apr 2008, 09:56
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Despre poza a treia:

Este cumva facuta la partea spate dreapta?

Daca da, cum de au pus aparatoarea de noroi in fata rotii spate?


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post 22 Apr 2008, 10:04
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"Aparatoarea aia de noroi" este de fapt un deflector aerodinamic. Vezi si tu pe la alte masini ... o sa sa gasesti si la rotile din fata. Eu am la rotile din fata de mult timp. Pentru alea din spate am material, dar nu am mai avut timp sa le montez. Am un prieten in schimb care si montat la toate.

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post 22 Apr 2008, 10:17
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Si ce a constatat respectivul prieten ?


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post 22 Apr 2008, 10:32
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Si poza de sub masina e din fata rotii dreapta spate.


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post 22 Apr 2008, 10:32
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La Megane, in fata, stiu ca am.

Dar in fata rotilor din spate nu am mai vazut pana acum.


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El se astepta la mult ... doar ca trebuie sa atingi toate "punctele" ca rezultatul sa te dea pe spate.

PS. Se observa ca acum i-au montat antena ...

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post 22 Apr 2008, 12:21
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Fusei si vazui "capodopera".
Ca solutii tehnice observabile din exterior am remarcat:
- Carenaj spate sub portbagaj, anexate la esapamentul in jos (a se observa culoarea ... alba a tobei)
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- Punte spate "inchisa"
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- Carenajul de la stergatoare
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- Carenajele de la proiectoare de dedesubt sunt din cele cu "canal" pentru aerisirea franelor
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- Deflectorul spate
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- fusta de la spoilerul fata dintr-un cauciuc moale dar nerezistent in timp, care se crapa f. usor
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post 22 Apr 2008, 12:26
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Carenaj spate sub portbagaj, anexate la esapamentul in jos
Iti ziceam cu mult timp in urma ...
Pentru cine nu stie cum arata cheala:

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- O lipsa de deflectoare de aer pe fata langa radiatoare
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- un cheder la capota motorului, din far in far
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Si unele mici detalii de finisaj:
- niste infolieri "de calitate"
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- oglinda "bine" vopsita
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- o nelipsita rugina pe plafon
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- o montare "excelenta" la ornamentele de pe spoilerul fata
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Si un interior "eco"
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post 22 Apr 2008, 12:51
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QUOTE(klaus @ 22 Apr 2008, 12:36)
- un cheder la capota motorului, din far in far
Tot eu ca sa ma laud ... al meu montat doar intre faruri. Dar rezolv eu si in dreptul lor.


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post 22 Apr 2008, 12:58
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Mi se pare mie sau radiatorul de AC e diferit?
Și amplasat într-o zonă cu răcire mai bună?


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post 22 Apr 2008, 13:01
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care AC? blink.gif


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care AC? blink.gif


intercooler ... lasa-l ca e mic si nu stie

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post 22 Apr 2008, 13:04
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ma intreb si eu...oare geamurile deschise nu "produc" un consum mai mare decat AC-ul? dry.gif Sau Loganul asta(stiu ca e concept) nu se foloseste vara...


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In pachet este inclus slip, prosop si un litru de apa plata cu lamaie.


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