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> Diferente intre cutiile de viteze la Logan, Intre JH3 si JR5

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post 9 Jul 2008, 19:24
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Conform datelor tehnice de pe site-ul Dacia, motorul 1,5 dci 70cp are cutia JH3, iar motorul 1,5 dci 85cp are cutia JR5. Care sunt diferentele dintre cele doua modele de cutii de viteze?


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post 9 Jul 2008, 20:34
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JR5 e un JH3 regandit, cu imbunatatiri, inclusiv pe la rulmenti.
JR5 are comanda pe cablu, JH3 pe tija.

Parerea mea: JR5 e mai buna.


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post 9 Jul 2008, 20:40
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JR5 rezista la forte mai mari decat JH3.


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post 28 Jul 2008, 20:14
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Salut! Da' alea de 65 cai (dci) de care cutie aveau? Ca intre 65 si 70 simti diferenta la cutie. intre 70 si 85 insa nimic. (parerea mea)


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post 28 Jul 2008, 20:44
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Cele de 70Cp au JH3 si cele de 85Cp au JR5.


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post 28 Jul 2008, 21:14
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Exista JR5 cu comanda pe cabluri si pe dci-uri de 70cp.


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post 28 Jul 2008, 21:17
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Si la benzina cum e? JH3 si JR5 au aceleasi rapoarte pe trepte?


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post 28 Jul 2008, 21:18
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JH3 cred ca e ceva mai scurta ... unsure.gif
Iar la benzina, 1.4 are JH1 si restul au JH3.

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post 29 Jul 2008, 13:14
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Va multumim pentru increderea pe care ne-ati acordat-o apeland la serviciile noastre.

Referitor la solicitarea dumneavoastra cu privire la cele 2 cutii de viteze, va comunicam faptul ca cele 2 repere difera prin numarul de dinti de la pinioane si prin ansamblul grup diferential.
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am uitat sa specific, asta e in legatura cu JH1/JH3 wink.gif

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post 29 Jul 2008, 22:13
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Mos & adimatis> Daca JH1 e pe 1.4 nu ar fi normal ca aceasta sa fie mai scurta decat JH3?


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post 29 Jul 2008, 22:29
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Eu ziceam ca JH3 e ceva mai scurta ca JR5.
Oricum, JH1 e mai scurta si ea decat celelalte.


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post 30 Jul 2008, 03:56
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Cu cati mai putini cai, cu atat o cutie mai scurta!


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post 1 Aug 2008, 18:48
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QUOTE(AR-18-MOS @ 29 Jul 2008, 22:29)
Eu ziceam ca JH3 e ceva mai scurta ca JR5.
Oricum, JH1 e mai scurta si ea decat celelalte.
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post 1 Aug 2008, 19:05
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QUOTE(AR-18-MOS @ 28 Jul 2008, 22:18)
JH3 cred ca e ceva mai scurta ... unsure.gif
Iar la benzina, 1.4 are JH1 si restul au JH3.
Aha, deci JH1 este mai scurta. Pe latime sau pe lungime? radmasa.gif

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post 1 Aug 2008, 19:35
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post 1 Aug 2008, 19:53
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QUOTE(IRONICK @ 1 Aug 2008, 19:05)
Aha, deci JH1 este mai scurta. Pe latime sau pe lungime?  radmasa.gif
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Pe inaltime ...

Rapoartele sunt mai scurte. tongue.gif

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post 1 Aug 2008, 20:03
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Conform pdf-ului atasat astea ar trebui sa fie cutii de viteze ce se pun pe logan.Beleaua e ca sunt mai multe coduri pentru JH3 si JH5

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post 13 Aug 2008, 07:23
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Chiar ieri comparam chestia asta cu un prieten al lui e de 65 de cai si al meu de 70 de cai , cursa schimbatorului e mai scurta la el si la mine mai lunga + tija mea are o indoitura jos smile.gif)))))

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Pardon era invers cursa de la al meu e mai scurta si a lui e mai lunga smile.gif) my bad tongue.gif

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post 13 Aug 2008, 21:52
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JH1 053 de pe 1.4mpi nu are rapoartele mai scurte decat JH3 care se monteaza pe 1.6mpi si 1.6 16v.Dci -ul de 85 cp are cutia(JR5) cu rapoarte ceva mai lungi decat cel de 65 sau 70 cp.


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QUOTE(moshutzzu @ 13 Aug 2008, 08:23)
...cursa de la al meu e mai scurta si a lui e mai lunga ...
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Cand se spune ca o cutie "e mai scurta" inseamna ca rapoartele ei sunt mai scurte (si ajuta la accelerare - masina urca repede in turatii, dar trebuie sa schimbi mai repede). Nu are nicio legatura cu cursa scimbatorului (cat de mult intinzi mana sa schimbi dintr-o treqapta in alta).

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Super-cutiile astea by Renault la mine au inceput sa "scartaie". Logan 1.4 2006 euro 3 facand vreo 200 000 km (Taxi) vrea alta cutie! Facand abstractie de plajele vitezelor, vreau sa stiu daca se potriveste (adica daca se pot interschimba cu totul) cu cea de pe 1.4 euro 4 sau 1.6 sau clio 1.4. Deci ma intereseaza prinderea pe motor, prinderea tijei ce vine de la schimbator la cautatorul de pe cutie, gaurile pentru planetare, senzorul de viteza, furca ambreiaj,daca se pastreaza acelasi kit ambreiaj. Astept. Multumesc!


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Intrebare de 10 puncte . . . pot sa inlocuiesc cutia de pe 1.5 dci EURO 3 JH3 cu cea de pe 1.5 dCi EURO 4 85cai JR5 ? Stiu ca la JR5 timoneria este pe cabluri (dar se poate monta cea pe cabluri) iar ambreiajul este hidraulic . . . aici este problema ? . . . s-ar putea sa difere partea de la motor unde se prinde cutia ?


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post 17 Apr 2009, 22:31
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Mihai, eu am pe dci 70 jr5 cu cabluri si cablu de ambreiaj, de asemenea mai am si 1.6 16v tot cu cablu...nu-i bai


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post 22 Apr 2009, 20:08
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Deci pana la urma 1.4 are cutia diferite de 1.6 8v?!

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post 22 Apr 2009, 22:50
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post 23 Apr 2009, 11:39
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Eu la 1.4 vad JH1 si la 1.6 vad JH3.


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post 19 May 2009, 17:23
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1.6 16v are cutia pe cablu?? eu am F2; stie cineva?


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post 5 Jun 2009, 13:03
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QUOTE(lucaeugen2005 @ 19 May 2009, 17:23)
1.6 16v are cutia pe cablu?? eu am F2; stie cineva?
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MCV-ul meu 1.6 16V (fabr. 2007) are cutia de viteze cu comanda pe cabluri, dar e tip JR5. Vad ca in fisa de mai sus la ph2 motorul 1.6 16V apare cu cutie JH3.

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conform unor zvonuri era anuntata o cutie automata, dar nu am vazut la vanzare nimic despre ea ... sa fie doar un zvon?


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