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post 22 Feb 2008, 23:49
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de curiozitate ...stie cineva care este treaba cu unele motoare de pe Cielo si Espero care au inscriptia DOICH ??? cu ce sunt diferite fata de celelalte? sau de la ce vine?


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post 22 Feb 2008, 23:56
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DOHC=double over head cam=2 axe cu came in chiuloasa

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post 22 Feb 2008, 23:58
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aha ms ... deci daca sunt 2 acse banuiesc ca au 16 valve nu?


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post 22 Feb 2008, 23:59
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post 22 Feb 2008, 23:59
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le pardon cam shaft

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post 23 Feb 2008, 00:03
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De obicei se pune o axa pe admisie si una pe evacuare. Pot fi 1, 2 sau 3 supape pe admisie si 1 sau 2 supape pe evacuare. La un motor cu 4 cilindri DOHC, putem ave 8v, 12v, 16v sau chiar 20v. Deasemenea putem avea mai multi sau mai putini cilidri. DOHC nu inseamna neaparat 16 valve wink.gif

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post 23 Feb 2008, 00:14
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hai ca m-ai termenat, 052.gif in traducere libera "peste cap" in contextu de fata deasupra motorului=>in chiuloasa cool.gif

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post 23 Feb 2008, 00:16
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As zice ca e deasupra tuturor, chiar si a chiulasei...


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post 23 Feb 2008, 00:18
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post 23 Feb 2008, 00:26
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Eu stiam ca se traduce: "doua axe cu came-n cap".


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post 23 Feb 2008, 00:27
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imi cer scuze atunci, e bine ca stiam macar esentialu biggrin.gif

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DOHC=.......=2 axe cu came in chiuloasa
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post 23 Feb 2008, 00:31
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Esentialul la DOHC este ca, axul cu came actioneaza direct supapele.









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post 23 Feb 2008, 09:12
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nu ma idoiesc de treaba sta, dar SSilent a intrebat doar ce inseamna DOHC laugh.gif

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post 23 Feb 2008, 09:47
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QUOTE(vis-a-vis @ 23 Feb 2008, 01:31)
Esentialul la DOHC este ca, axul cu came actioneaza direct supapele.
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Gresit, exista DOHC folosind culbutori.


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post 23 Feb 2008, 10:14
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QUOTE(vis-a-vis @ 23 Feb 2008, 00:03)
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Over (cylinder) head = deasupra blocului de cilindri, adica (DOOOOH) in chiulasa.

QUOTE(einstein1984 @ 23 Feb 2008, 09:47)
Gresit, exista DOHC folosind culbutori.
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Corect. Adica mai toate-s asa. Ceea ce se elimina sunt tijele impingatoare wink.gif


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post 23 Feb 2008, 11:17
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Ma, voi confundati DOHC cu SOHC...

DOHC


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post 23 Feb 2008, 16:35
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Vis-a-vis, DOHC nu are musai tacheti pahar.
Ia citeste aici: http://en.allexperts.com/q/Ford-Repair-811...DOHC-rocker.htm


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post 23 Feb 2008, 17:36
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Da ma, stiu, dar de plictiseala mai bag si eu niste soparle, ca sa vad cine sare la cap... biggrin.gif
Oricum, daca tot ai pus doua axe cu came in cap, ce rost mai are sa pui piese-n plus?


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post 23 Feb 2008, 19:05
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Ca sa iasa inaltimea mai mica a motorului, ca asa poti sa ascuzi axa cu came sub culbutor. Un DOHC va fi mai inalt decat un OHC (si americanii furnizeaza argumentul asta cand compara V8-urile lor cu motoarele japoneze.).


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post 25 Feb 2008, 08:22
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In plus, avand culbutor, inaltimea de ridicare a camei poate fi mai mica decat inaltimea de ridicare a supapei, restul compensandu-se cu raportul bratelor culbutorului (care poate fi pana la 1,5;1). Rezulta solicitari si uzura mai mica.


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post 26 Feb 2008, 07:58
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Nu stiu de ce ai pus aceasta intrebare insa daca intentionezi sa-ti cumperi Cielo iar "taticu" nu e vreun seic arab cu sonde in fata palatului ia-ti gandul de la motorizarea DOHC-motor slab si gurmand!!!


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post 27 Feb 2008, 14:06
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am zis din primu post de ce pun aceasta intrebare... curiozitate wacko.gif


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post 27 Feb 2008, 14:11
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Orice Cielo consuma mult, si ala DOHC are 90 de CP, si pentru 1,5 l cilindree nu e rau.


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post 27 Feb 2008, 14:34
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QUOTE(Muttley @ 23 Feb 2008, 11:14)
Over (cylinder) head = deasupra blocului de cilindri, adica (DOOOOH) in chiulasa.
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Muttley, corectura: cylinderhead = chiulasa wink.gif


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post 28 Feb 2008, 00:05
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QUOTE(einstein1984 @ 27 Feb 2008, 14:11)
Orice Cielo consuma mult, si ala DOHC are 90 de CP, si pentru 1,5 l cilindree nu e rau.
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De fapt are 86 cp...Asta cu 90 cp probabil e o chestie de marketing, la fel cum la Loganul de 1.6 se spune ca are 90cp, cand de fapt are 87cp...


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post 28 Feb 2008, 00:06
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La roata sau la volanta? wink.gif


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post 28 Feb 2008, 08:29
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Syl, si de unde ai tu informatia cu 86? Ca intre datele furnizate de uzina si cuvantul tau prefer sa cred uzina.


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post 28 Feb 2008, 15:27
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Datale nu sunt neaparat furnizate de uzina, ci de diversi dealeri, sau chair si furnizate de uzina, sunt perezenatet valori "rotunjite" ca asa da mai bine...Puterea reala o afli din CIV , nu din diverse surse publicitare...


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post 28 Feb 2008, 15:52
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ok, si cati kw are in civ/talon?


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oricum la cate motoare de cielo exista, de la euro 0 la euro 3 sigur difera puterile putin, chiar daca ei le declara (probabil) la fel

pe manualul meu scrie Rodae Automobile,deci banuiesc ca e destul de vechi..

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