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post 3 Nov 2009, 00:22
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post 3 Nov 2009, 03:04
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E regizat, nu se poate asa ceva. Nu la un Reno!


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post 3 Nov 2009, 09:52
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e veche emisiunea...cred ca-i reala problema, masina era trasa de par, cine stie cate duble au filmat aia, pana a dat eroare comp


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post 3 Nov 2009, 10:27
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marfa.....

e rs prefacelift...care nu prea lea avut cu fiabilitatea..... dar cu performanta e altceva....


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post 3 Nov 2009, 16:37
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am vazut si eu clipul si normal cum sa nu castige Vauxhall -ul lor preferat...cu toate ca Renault era cu mult peste Astra au facut si ei sa para ca renault e prost.
Sistemul de injectie,ESP fault etc...cum e posibil sa vina toate odata?


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post 3 Nov 2009, 20:33
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Vauxhall-ul lor preferat?! radmasa.gif

Fix la aceeasi emisiune, Clio RS a batut net Corsa OPC. Da' na, poate si atunci era fake...


Apropo, Megane RS vechi are 15 CP in minus fata de Astra (225 vs 240), si cuplu mai slab (298 NM fata de 320 NM). Masa la Astra - 1393 kg, 1446 kg Megane.

http://www.maximum-cars.com/Cars/Car.php?carnumber=631

http://gm-press.com/baltics/site/article.php?aid=1403

Deci, strict in cifre, Astra e "mult peste" Megane.

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post 3 Nov 2009, 20:39
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QUOTE(eduardsebe @ 3 Nov 2009, 16:37)
am vazut si eu clipul si normal cum sa nu castige Vauxhall -ul lor preferat...cu toate ca Renault era cu mult peste Astra au facut si ei sa para ca renault e prost.
Sistemul de injectie,ESP fault etc...cum e posibil sa vina toate odata?
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post 3 Nov 2009, 20:47
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problema e la astra faptul ca are un torque steer ceva de speriat. Poate in cifre astra era mai bun, dar megane-ul rs "nou" (adica ala cu facelift) e peste opel astra.

Cat despre defectiuni intamplate in cadrul unor teste, intr-un test car & driver, dintre un bmw 330 si un lexus is, bmw-ul a avut defectiuni pare-mi-se la abs si la pornire:

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/compar...bmw_330i_page_4

si la topgear sau fifth gear au avut un bmw m5 la care i s-a rupt cardanul


Sunt masini proaste bmw-urile? smile.gif


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post 3 Nov 2009, 20:53
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Aia cu torquesteer e Vectra OPC.

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post 3 Nov 2009, 20:57
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nope. si astra sufera de acelasi defect, uite unul dintre teste: http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evolongter..._astra_vxr.html


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post 3 Nov 2009, 21:09
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Posibil. Deocamdata vad doar un review. Oricum, problema nu era care e mai bun (eu am spus "in cifre" si atat) ci acuzatia ca 5th Gear au favorizat Astra.


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post 3 Nov 2009, 21:27
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inca un topic in care se incepe o frumoasa polemica
va legati de toate prostiile filmate de uni si altii. Cum au condus cei doi soferi ma mir ca au ramas pe pista . Faci cica un concurs, apesi pedala la fund si dai din cap, maini poate si din picioare ca maimutele ba jumate din drum stai cu ochii pe camera.
Prosti de aburit consumatorii avizi dupa "senzatii induse de unii".


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post 3 Nov 2009, 22:20
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este veche problema....masina a dat eroarea si la Top Gear...tot check injection..si nu mergea mai mult de 90...am mai citit pe un forum din u.k...cativa posesori de rs se plangeau ca apare check injection si motorul intra intr un fel de safe mode si nu merge mai mult de 90 ..nu urca mai sus de 2000 rpm..etc....asta numai in urma unui mers constant la viteza foarte mare...

stau si rad...si ma uit cum nu sunt unii realisti...si-au luat megane 3 si cred ca au S Classe cel putin...vistati in continuare...


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post 3 Nov 2009, 23:28
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QUOTE(aphophis @ 3 Nov 2009, 20:47)
Sunt masini proaste bmw-urile? smile.gif
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Nu sunt proaste ... dar nici atat de bune cum le tin ai nostrii conantionali...

Ca a aparut sau nu eroarea intentionat... nu ma intereseza... cert este ca pe circuitul lor Meganul sta mult mai bine pe viraje... asta se vede clar din filmare...

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post 7 Nov 2009, 10:26
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QUOTE(RaduNG @ 3 Nov 2009, 20:39)
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