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kitzsteinhorn91
post 19 May 2010, 21:52
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Salutare ! Dupa ce am terminat masina, i-am schimbat pe fata rulmentii, am reparat etrierii, si am pus la punct franele. Rotile nu merg infranate, am geometria facuta in service cu aparat special, dar nu stiu din ce motive, masina nu reuseste sa treaca de 120 km/h la 4500 rpm ! Care ar fi motivul ? Pot sta si in picioare pe pedala de acceleratie, ca tot nu sare de 120 @ 4500 !

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post 19 May 2010, 22:02
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Puteam sa ma astept ca se va gasi cineva sa faca o mica gluma, total aiurea. Nu vreau sa ajung cu ea la viteze astronomice, vreau doar sa stiu, viind RECONDITIONATA total, o avea ea 35 de ani, dar e pusa la punct din orice punct de vedere. Deci din acest motiv, revin cu intrebarea: de ce nu sare de 120 @ 4500 ?


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post 19 May 2010, 22:05
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in primul rand cutia e in 4 trepte ? al doilea ambreiajul in ce stare e sau la capitolul motor si anume segmentare chiulasa (supape) carburatot filtru de aer un ulei bun se zice ca face multe etc. pot fi multe pe langa acea varsta pe care o are cum a spus si colegul de mai sus smile.gif

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post 19 May 2010, 22:07
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Motorul: Set Borgo nou, motorul are 700 km, a fost refacut. Motor 810-02.
Ambreiaj: Placa de presiune + disc ambreiaj + rulment presiune, toate noi
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post 19 May 2010, 22:11
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verifica totusi si cablul de acceleratie!vezi daca e intins suficient!
eu am avut una din 75 si ajungea la 135 pe ceas!...motorul nu era chiar zob..dar crec avea peste suta de mii!sigur fusese refacut..dar nah!eu am patit sa fie cablul slab....merita incercat sa verifici si asta mai ales ca o faci ff repede bafta!


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post 19 May 2010, 22:13
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Am intins cablul cat am putut de mult si tot nu depaseste acest prag. Daca pe loc o turez sare de 4500, dar in mers, nu trece de 120 @ 4500 !

Sa patineze cumva ambreiajul ? Am urmatoarele repere care vreau sa-mi ziceti daca sunt ok, sau e ceva in neregula:
Vit. 4 - 60 kmph - 2000 rpm;
Vit. 4 - 80 kmph - 3000 rpm;
Vit. 4 - 110 kmph - 4000 rpm.

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post 19 May 2010, 22:20
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Pai la 700km tu vrei performante maxime? repeta testul cand motorul va avea macar 2000 km


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post 19 May 2010, 22:21
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OK. Dar crezi ca mai pot fi si alti factori sa influenteze asta ? Rotile sunt echilibrate, geometrie facuta, franele nu raman in presiune, deci nu merg rotile infranate...


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post 19 May 2010, 22:21
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Avansul e reglat aiurea. Pe ceas ajung relativ usor la 140km/h cu gunoiu' meu, tot set Borgo, da' pus acu' ani si ani, deja a inceput sa scape compresie urat, cutia e zob, roti infranate posibil sa am. Nu stiu cate rpm-uri am la viteza aia. Te lamureste cineva ce viteza trebuie sa ai la 4500rpm intr-a patra. Eu tind sa cred ca in jur de 135km/h, reali. unsure.gif


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post 19 May 2010, 22:25
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Deci posibil sa fie din ambreiaj ? Sa patineze ? Si sa se tureze motorul iar viteza sa ramana mica ?
Avansul e reglat...

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post 19 May 2010, 22:28
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Sigur nu indica prost ceasul? Acu-i epoca GPS-ului, poti sa afli usor.
Altceva, ce kit de ambreiaj ai montat?


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post 19 May 2010, 22:29
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Klaxcar
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post 19 May 2010, 22:29
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pai tu nu simti daca iti patineaza sau nu?


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post 19 May 2010, 22:31
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Era sa zic ceva de Klaxcar... Vezi ca s-ar gasi Valeo de 170, da' e vreo 7-800 de lei. Daca esti dispus sa mai bagi niste bani, chiar daca nu e asta motivul(poate fi si montaj defectuos), macar stii ca te alegi cu ambreiaj "pe viata", nu petarde d-astea Asam, Klaxcar, s.a.m.d.



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post 19 May 2010, 22:33
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Stiam ca cele Klaxcar sunt frantuzesti. Eu nu simt ca patineaza, dar daca Merced zice ca la 4500 rpm ar trebui sa am 135 kmph, inseamna ca e o problema undeva !


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post 19 May 2010, 22:36
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Asa presupun dintr-un calcul facut acum multi ani, cu alta Dacie care avea o problema similara. Nu am turometru sa-ti zic exact. Poate asa e corect, cum iti indica tie.

Klaxcar e o casuta postala prin Franta probabil. Iti dai seama ca nu se fabrica nici cartonu' in care e ambalat la ei. Klaxcar, Autospeed, sunt niste petarde ca si Asam-ul, doar ca se ascund in spatele unui marketing care pare sa aiba efect.


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post 19 May 2010, 22:41
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Sper sa nu am probleme. O sa verific maine si cu GPS-ul. Cu toate ca nu imi explic de ce se opinteste de 120 kmph, tot nu mi-ati raspuns la asta ! biggrin.gif


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post 19 May 2010, 22:47
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Verifica clapeta de acceleratie , daca e deschisa la maxim cand ai pedala de acceleratie apasata la maxim , daca nu mai deformeaza pedala de acceleratie pana atunci cand apesi pe acceleratie clapeta de acceleratie(din carburator) sa fie deschisa la maxim .Eu am patit asta cu batrana lui tata , mai mult de 115 km/h nu mergea (dupa reparatie capitala) apoi dupa ce am umblat la pedala de acceleratie ajungea la 145km/h pe ceas .


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post 20 May 2010, 07:47
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QUOTE(kitzsteinhorn91 @ 19 May 2010, 22:29)
Klaxcar
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pacat de masina sa o faci asa frumoasa si pui gunoaie de genul pe ea.


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post 20 May 2010, 08:09
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Imi pare rau, dar am evitat pe cat posibil ASAM, nu am pus nimic de ASAM pe ea, toate sunt de uzina, iar acolo am gasit Klaxcar pentru ca am vazut ca scria ca sunt Made in France.


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post 20 May 2010, 08:11
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si pretul nu ti-a dat de gandit? daca scria Made in Japan credeai?


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post 20 May 2010, 08:15
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Acum ce sa fac, astept sa se duca si pun de alta firma...


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post 20 May 2010, 08:18
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kitzsteinhorn91,cat consuma masina?Ai ceva economizoare prin carburator care poate gatui admisia,eventual jiclere modificate? nedumerire.gif


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post 20 May 2010, 08:18
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foarte bine, oricum de patinat nu patineaza daca turatia sta la 4500, eu zic ca-ti indica vitezometrul mai putin, colaborat cu rodajul si avansul eventual dereglat.


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post 20 May 2010, 08:22
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QUOTE(kitzsteinhorn91 @ 19 May 2010, 23:13)
Sa patineze cumva ambreiajul ? Am urmatoarele repere care vreau sa-mi ziceti daca sunt ok, sau e ceva in neregula:
Vit. 4 - 60 kmph - 2000 rpm;
Vit. 4 - 80 kmph - 3000 rpm;
Vit. 4 - 110 kmph - 4000 rpm.
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Turatiile astea is cat de cat ok. Pe acolo se invarte si realitatea.

Pe acolo, adica daca la 2000 ai 60 km/h, atunci la 4000 ar trebui sa ai 120 . Matematica pura. Dar no, si ceasurile alea au o varsta, asa ca se mai poate considera si ceva eroare de la ele.

Treapta a IV-a are raport de demultiplicare 1,032:1 conform cartii lui Mondiru. Vezi ce dimensiuni au caucioacele de le ai pe masina, si cauta un pic pe net, exista calculatoare rpm->viteza.

Si nu uita ca ti-ai reconditionat dacie. las-o mai moale pana va invatati unii cu altii.


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post 20 May 2010, 08:23
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Carburatorul este cel original, este nou, Carfil 32 IRMA, fara jiglere modificate, iar in ceea e priveste economizoare, nu am acea elica sub carburator.


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post 20 May 2010, 08:30
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post 20 May 2010, 08:37
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Sa va mai zic ceva: am cumparat calbu de acceleratie de 1300 de la magazin, dar nu mi se mai prinde acel guler cu arc de peretele motorului. Poate influenta si asta cu ceva ?


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post 20 May 2010, 08:44
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adica la trecere?


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post 20 May 2010, 08:54
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