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Iuli
post 22 Mar 2011, 20:34
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11X42
17X39
26X39
30X34
34X31
8X33 SAU 8X35
CE PARERE AVETI DE RAPOARTELE LA CUTIA PE CARE O FAC

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Split-uit de la "Dacia raliu". Mai multa grija data viitoare.


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post 22 Mar 2011, 20:41
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Toate sunt aproape "stock" doar pe a5a ai modificat-o dar mai bine o faceai 1:1 pt obtinerea vitezei maxime, stii s-a mai discuata cu rapoartele cutiei de viteze. Grupul ai face bine daca l-ai folosi pe cel de 8x33, fiindca vei obtine un cuplu mai ridicat la roata. Ai grija sa schimbi si grupul de la cablul de la kilometraj, Avand in vedere ca e de raliu trebuia sa le faci pe a2a si pe a3a umpic mai scurte daca folosesti un motor nu foarte puternic. Daca ai un motor mai puternic e bine asa, ca si asa pe a5a nu prea o filosesti.


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Iuli
post 22 Mar 2011, 21:59
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grupul 8x33 4,125
8x35 4.375
mai am ponioane de 5 de 32x35 sau 29x38


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post 22 Mar 2011, 23:53
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Prima treapta e foarte scurta.


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Iuli
post 24 Mar 2011, 19:23
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cutia primita azi
14x43
16x36
22x37
27x35
31x32
8 x33 grup conic
21x37 r

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post 24 Mar 2011, 20:29
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Mult mai bine. Cu ce motor e echipata Dacia careia-i e destinata cutia ? La ce turatie se atinge puterea maxima si ce anvelope (dimensiune) ai de gand sa folosesti ?
Cam asa ar putea sa arate diagrama fierastrau...

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post 24 Mar 2011, 21:56
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motorul e de 16 jenti de iarna 175,70r13 ...de vara 185,60r14....175,65r14.....si tot azi am primit doua cauciucuri de 165,60r14

24 Mar 2011, 23:07:
dupa cum e etajata cutia pe diagrama ,la 3000 rot nu ai nici 80 km ....cinstit nu imi place ... e consumatoare de benzina cu ce am acuma pe masina la 3000 rot am in jur de 118 km.... grup 9x34 si a cincea 29-38

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post 24 Mar 2011, 22:13
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Diagrama e orientativa, nu stiam ce anvelope folosesti, dar oricum, e o cutie scurta, la fel si grupul. Nu e pentru mers economic. De pe ce autoturism provin cutia si motorul?


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Iuli
post 24 Mar 2011, 22:25
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un papuc ...am luat cutia si rotile de 165pe 14


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post 24 Mar 2011, 23:19
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QUOTE(Muttley @ 23 Mar 2011, 15:57)
....majoritatea masinilor DE SERIE au 1:1 in ultima treapta.......
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poate gresesc dar 1 la1 perfect nu exista in nici o treapta de cutie de serie....de regula apropiat de 1 la 1 ai in treapta 4 la dacia berlina(cv in 4 sau 5),dacia logan(cv in 5),symbol(cv in 5) etc....deci toate in a4a...
gresesc ? rolleyes.gif

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post 24 Mar 2011, 23:28
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Exista, la cutiile cu trei arbori.


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Iuli
post 25 Mar 2011, 23:32
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am montat cutia pe un papuc diesel de comporta super bine fata de cutia originala
14x43
16x36
22x37
27x35
31x36 am montat in loc de 31x32
8x33 maine il iau la alergat vreo 50 km va spun maine cum se comporta


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post 25 Mar 2011, 23:48
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QUOTE(sobolan @ 24 Mar 2011, 23:19)
poate gresesc dar 1 la1 perfect nu exista...
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Daca ar exista, ar calca aceiasi dinti unii pe altii de fiecare data, iar pinioanele s-ar uza mai repede.


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Iuli
post 26 Mar 2011, 18:35
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azi am mers cu papucu cu noua cutie,se misca mult mai bine cu cutia asta si azi am demontat in continuare cutia veche de la care am luat priza si carcasa de ambreaj ...va pun rapoarele la cutia veche de diesel
11x42
17x38
23x34
28x29
29x38
9 x41 grup conic


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post 27 Mar 2011, 13:17
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Vezi ca faci o greseala. Treci invers numerele dintilor rotilor de la treapta a cincea. Ar fi mai simplu sa le treci ca raporturi... 42/11, 38/17, 34/23, 29/28 si 29/38. La cutia pe care o ai acum, daca ai fost consecvent, era 31/32 raportul treptei a cincea, inainte sa-l schimbi cu 31/36.


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post 27 Mar 2011, 19:37
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da inainte era 31/32 da am vorbit cu propietaru si zicea ca motoru mergea turat in a cincea de accea am montat 31/36sa mai scad din tiratie mai ales ca motoru e diesel


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