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mauru007
post 5 Aug 2006, 12:34
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am de ales intre masinile de mai jos. golf am avut de la firma exact motorizarea
de mai jos,e ok cunosc bine masina, despre focus nu stiu mai nimic. m-ar interesa o comparatie pertinenta intre cele 2 masini, daca stie cineva cate stele ncap au avut fiecare la teste, eventual costuri de intretinere


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Capacitate cilindrica: 1.6/101CP
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Dublu airbag frontal, climatronic, cotiera centrala, radio CD, geamuri electrice fata/spate, oglinzi exterioare electrice, scaun sofer cu reglare electrica pe inaltime, faruri ceata, jante aliaj.
An fabricatie: 2002
Km. 91.500
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post 6 Aug 2006, 09:34
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Golful are un motor cam mititel pentru ce caroserie trebuie sa taraie... huh.gif


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post 6 Aug 2006, 10:12
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Am si eu o intrebare:
Ce inseaman aer conditionat climatic?
E automat sau nu?

Daca mergi incet ia Golful, daca mergi mai tare Fordul.
Eu as lua Golful dar asta e alegerea mea.
Dar mai bine as cauta un 1,9TDI


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post 6 Aug 2006, 12:14
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Daca ai mai mult de mers prin oras si nu esti nici vitezoman, ia Golful (pentru consum mai mult). Nu cred ca e neaparat mic motorul, daca e sa ma gindesc ca pe Astra G Caravan au fost puse si motoare de 1,2 si 60 CP pe benzina. In schimb sa nu te superi daca nu iti ia 200 km/h.


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post 6 Aug 2006, 14:09
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Sau daca ai nevoie de un demaraj odata cu 4 pasageri si portbagajul plin, sa nu te superi de un 0-50km/h in 15 secunde...cu doar 75cai pe un Golf. wink.gif

Ia Fordul...iti ofera mai mult pt mai putini bani. Cu 11.000 euro deja te uiti la muuuulte altele.


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post 6 Aug 2006, 14:14
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Focusul e combi sau sedan ?
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post 6 Aug 2006, 23:12
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post 7 Aug 2006, 07:39
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Ambele sunt foarte bune. Ti-as recomanda Ford Focus pentru a nu intra si tu in randul posesorilor de VW Golf. Toata lumea isi ia Golf si Passat.............


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post 7 Aug 2006, 10:13
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Si eu as lua Focusul, mai ales pt. motor. Pt. Golf e cam mic motorul, din cate stiu Golf V nici nu se mai face cu motor de 75CP. Probabil au ajuns la concluzia ca nu se merita.


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post 7 Aug 2006, 10:18
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QUOTE(vis-a-vis @ 7 Aug 2006, 11:14)
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post 7 Aug 2006, 10:22
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Offtopic: nici una din cele 2 masini nu este ok la banii respectivi.

Un Peugeot 406 HDI de 2L cu 110 CP din 2003 si dotari mult mult mai tari decat cele 2 masini de mai sus (4 geamuri electr., scaune electr, scaune incalzite, climatronic, pilot automat, comp. bord, senz. ploaie + lumina, proiectoare, jenti aliaj, 4 airbags, heliomat, mag. cd-uri Clarion,etc...), sub 70.000km luat din RO, il gasesti cu aprox. 9000.


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post 7 Aug 2006, 10:59
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@dizzy: climatic inseamna aer conditionat semiautomat. Asa am eu la masina. In loc de setari de tip Rece/Cald, pe rotita aceea unde se regleaza temperatura am trecute grade: 16, 18, 22, 26. Masina regleaza in functie de temperatura exterioara temperatura pe care ti-o baga. De ex. daca afara sunt 35 grade si tu ai setat pe 22, iti baga frig, daca afara sunt -5 grade si tu ai setat pe 22 iti baga cald.


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post 7 Aug 2006, 11:47
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Scuze de offtopic.
Dar care e diferenta fata de un sistem automat tip climatronic?
Pe mine m-ar interesa sa pot regla debitul de aer, ca la actualul Logan, adica sa il tin pe treapta a 2-a de exemplu si el sa regleze doar diferenta de temperatura a jetului de aer.



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post 7 Aug 2006, 14:08
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off topic: diferenta este urmatoarea:

- Climatic: il setezi pe o temperatura si el incearca sa iti bage aer la temperatura pe care ai setat-o la viteza pe care ai setat-o.
- Climatronic: ii poti seta o temperatura si el incearca sa iti faca temperatura controland viteza aerului (i.e. la inceput va baga aer cu o viteza mai mare pana cand senzorii ii vor spune ca a ajuns la temperatura dorita si apoi doar o va mentine).

Diferenta intre Climatic si AC este (din cate stiu eu) faptul ca la Climatic sunt trecute gradele (in grade celsius) pe cand la AC ai doar niste gradatii de frig si cald, fara a sti exact cate grade iti baga.

ontopic: alegerea e grea.
Golful are km mai putini, dotari de siguranta suplimentare, dar are motor mai slab si costa mai mult.
Focus-ul e mai dotat, dar are mai multi km, consuma mai mult si mie personal mi se pare dubios pretul respectiv.

Daca Focus-ul are "origine controlata" si nu te deranjeaza un cosum putin mai mare si eu as merge pe Focus si as zice ca e ocazie

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post 8 Aug 2006, 08:32
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O.T. @bj citeste postul meu, am grade trecute pe rotita aceea, nu gradatii frig/cald. La Climatronic exista senzori in habitaclu care ajuta la mentinerea exacta a temperaturii setate. La climatic sunt niste presetari din fabrica, nu poti spune cu certitudine ca daca ai reglat clima pe 22 de grade chiar atatea ai in masina...


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post 8 Aug 2006, 08:40
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Ford Focus este mult mai fiabil + putere mai mare si mai ramai si cu bani


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post 8 Aug 2006, 08:43
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Dre stiu ca ai grade trecute pe rotita.
Climaticul insa iti baga aer cu temperatura pe care ai setat-o mereu. Adica el incearca sa seteze compresorul pe temperatura pe care ai ales-o tu si sa bage aer la temperatura aia. Indiferent de temperatura din masina el iti baga aer la temperatura pe care ai setat-o. Am spus mai sus ca incearca sa iti bage aer la temperatura pe care o setezi pentru ca daca diferenta dintre temperatura de afara si temperatura setata de tine este prea mare nu va reusi niciodata sa iti bage temperatura respectiva.

La Climatronic totul este controlat. Daca tu il pui la 23 de grade de exemplu el va baga fie cald, fie frig, fie la turatie mare, fie la turatie mica, in functie de cum are nevoie pentru a mentine o anumita temperatura in habitaclu.

Probabil ca m-am exprimat si eu putin ambiguu.


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post 21 Aug 2006, 10:51
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multumesc pentru pareri. am decis sa cumpar fordul focus.din pacate trebuie sa astept pina in decembrie cel putin sa il conduc. bafta


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post 21 Aug 2006, 11:40
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post 21 Aug 2006, 11:44
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QUOTE(paulp @ 21 Aug 2006, 12:44)
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post 21 Aug 2006, 11:56
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QUOTE(driverx @ 21 Aug 2006, 12:54)
Woaaaaa, ai vrut sa imi vinzi o masina stricata?  nu crede.gif

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"The problem is not under the bonnet! The problem is ON the bonnet!"
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Da ma...eu ma gandeam la Fiesta initial. Da' tot Logan mi-am luat. Si uite ce alegere buna am facut. radmasa.gif radmasa.gif


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