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Template, Sticker
martin245 |
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dacia
logan 14 mpi Simply RED
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g100sic |
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Stu, design is not a problem if you have the exact measurements, and if you have where to print it.
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2010 / Trend (Flex Pack 11) Never argue with a fool -- people might not notice the difference! (Murphy's First Law of Debate)
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martin245 |
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QUOTE(g100sic @ 30 Aug 2008, 08:18) Here is a link to the KMH to MPH http://www.eforecourt.com/mph_kph_speed_convert.htm Stu |
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dacia
logan 14 mpi Simply RED
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- GB 1 Bessy Regs
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g100sic |
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You didn't understand me, kph <-> mph conversion is not a problem, it's easy to calculate. I was referring to the dimensions of the sticker, diameter of the circle, and so on...
Is your idea to cover the original Logan's speedometer with this sticker? If so, then it must be made to fit snugly, with precise dimensions. |
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martin245 |
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Yes thats exactly what I need and it must like you say fit exactly and snugly
It must also be see through and if possible to be read also in the Dark English Law ![]() regards Stu I wont be sticking this sticker ON the Speedo It will be getting stuck on the Glass This post has been edited by martin245: 30 Aug 2008, 14:06 |
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dacia
logan 14 mpi Simply RED
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- GB 1 Bessy Regs
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g100sic |
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![]() Membru autentic Group: Members Posts: 313 Joined: 4 January 07 From: Serbia ![]() |
So, the question remains, can you provide the measures?!
Do you mean the outside glass, on the dashboard? That glass is curved! It is also far from the speedometer itself, makes no sense putting sticker on that glass. Not to mention how that complicates the design (making it look round on the curved and angled surface). Are there no ready made stickers, after all, it's Renault dashboard in the Logan, and Renaults are not so uncommon in the UK, I suppose?! |
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Fiesta 1.4 (96 HP)
2010 / Trend (Flex Pack 11) Never argue with a fool -- people might not notice the difference! (Murphy's First Law of Debate)
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martin245 |
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Yes I realise it is curved but that is the only way !Unless I can get a Scrap Logan and remove the Dial and paint on the MPH .The biggest problem though is removing the Speedo .Its a Big Job
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logan 14 mpi Simply RED
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- GB 1 Bessy Regs
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g100sic |
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Well, I meant to help you, but I don't think I could.
Making such a sticker precisely would require a 3D modeling, or a lot of trial-and-error cycles. And I still don't think it would be useful. Being so far away from the dial itself, it would be of use only if you'd keep your head absolutely steady all the time (parallax)! And I doubt English law could turn the blind eye on such a contraption. |
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Fiesta 1.4 (96 HP)
2010 / Trend (Flex Pack 11) Never argue with a fool -- people might not notice the difference! (Murphy's First Law of Debate)
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martin245 |
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![]() EX PAT Group: Members Posts: 913 Joined: 1 April 06 From: Karlsbad Germany (again) ![]() |
Mmmmm Then i will just stick the numbers in the correct places
and in the Meantime you look out in the local scrapyards for a scrap logan I just need the dial and when i (if) get a problem with with the English MOT i can spend a lot of money and get it fitted Thanks for you help so far mate Stu |
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dacia
logan 14 mpi Simply RED
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- GB 1 Bessy Regs
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heinz57g |
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like it or not, stu, i can just summarize: IT WILL NOT WORK THAT WAY.
most of the reasons g100sic has explained in great (and correct) detail, but just for the fun of it, try it. stick a few small paper dots (lick them, and they will stay for a few minutes) onto the front curved plastic. then look at them, and move your head just a bit. the same dot that was sticking at 40kmh will appear at 60kmh if you just slump down in your seat a bit, and so on. now i know you will say 'for once i will prove hienz wrong', but sadly, thats what it is. how ever good a template will be, out on the curved plastic it will just not do. we ( ! ) will have to look for another solution. greetings - heinz - |
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LOGANs, several
2004 - 2008 There is nothing wrong with change, if it is in the right direction. Thats why the British drive on the left.
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ga!nusha |
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Stu, maybe this helps...
http://www.daciaclub.ro/index.php?act=Atta...t&id=1627442298 they are scanned at 150 dpi by adiya. |
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heinz57g |
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ga!nusha, they look great, but might be of no use to stu: converting them
to miles/hour might be easy, but they still go onto the inside of the tachometer assembly, which stu rightly says is difficult to open up and put back. he thinks of a solution with the stickers on the outside, strongly bent plastic cover, some 5-15 cm in front of the actual dials, and such a thing plainly will not work. greetings - heinz - |
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DACIA
LOGANs, several
2004 - 2008 There is nothing wrong with change, if it is in the right direction. Thats why the British drive on the left.
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martin245 |
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ga!nusha thanks for that it will come in usefull if I can remove the tacho
@Heinz Yes you are right about the bend in the glass but we have a saying and its Bullshit Baffles Brains ....this means if it looks good it could get through I dont think the MOT man will sit in front of the dial moving his head up and down like a nodding dog ......................(i hope) How hard is it to remove the Speedo Could I get the glass out without removing the whole Shebang?? (Slang for thing) have a nice week all of you Stu Nodding Dog tp-w9w.jpg This post has been edited by martin245: 31 Aug 2008, 21:41 |
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dacia
logan 14 mpi Simply RED
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- GB 1 Bessy Regs
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ga!nusha |
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you have to take off the steering wheel base plastic cover, unscrew 2 bolts(using torx T20) and to remove the sun protector for the dashboard. it is not so complicated...
the dashboard is fixed in 4 screws. here are some pics: http://www.daciaclub.ro/index.php?showtopic=14606 if you ever used a screwdriver before it can't take more than 10 minutes to get access to the speed/rpm sticker. you just have to be careful not to brake the plastic joints. This post has been edited by ga!nusha: 1 Sep 2008, 13:33 |
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heinz57g |
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ga!nusha, it could well be that the workshops tell nonsense when they
say how difficult it is. we have luckily (on now 20+ logans) never had to replace it, so i have no firsthand experience. but if it is as you say, and i am 99.9% sure it is, it would be the perfect solution for stu. have somebody draw a template with miles/hour, stick it in, and 15 (or maybe 30) minutes later he has a morris minor (almost). but stu, pls dont do it yourself - let your wife do it. great, and many thanks - heinz - |
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DACIA
LOGANs, several
2004 - 2008 There is nothing wrong with change, if it is in the right direction. Thats why the British drive on the left.
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martin245 |
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Hey this looks good I will have to try and get someone to do this for me !!
has anyone got an Old Speedo or can find one for me i could just swap the dial then I will now print off these photos Thanks a bunch guys ..we do sometimes talk a load of codswallop but we also seem to get the jobs sorted in the end . Thanks again ga!nusha oh Hi Heinz and here is a Morris Minor in my eyes one of the nicest(eye catching) cars to hit the streets and it was years before its time 1960MorrisMinorA1.JPG WANTED ONE SPEEDO FACE <span class='edit'>1 Sep 2008, 17:43:</span> One more thing is it easy to remove the plastic face Stu This post has been edited by martin245: 1 Sep 2008, 18:50 |
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dacia
logan 14 mpi Simply RED
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heinz57g |
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tks stu for MM picture. why does it bring tears to my eyes?
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DACIA
LOGANs, several
2004 - 2008 There is nothing wrong with change, if it is in the right direction. Thats why the British drive on the left.
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martin245 |
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Heinz
Did you know you can still BUILD Morris Minors From spare parts http://www.morrisminor.co.uk/index.htm Stu |
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logan 14 mpi Simply RED
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- GB 1 Bessy Regs
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ga!nusha |
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One more thing is it easy to remove the plastic face
Stu to gain access to the spedo and rpm plastic face(the one with numbers on it ![]() BTW: you also have to remove the.... hmmm... "stick indicators ![]() This post has been edited by ga!nusha: 4 Sep 2008, 21:38 |
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martin245 |
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Hi thanks for the info
Surely if you put the speedo and RPM hands back on the Very Start they will be ok Or???????? Stu Why did you remove yours |
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dacia
logan 14 mpi Simply RED
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- GB 1 Bessy Regs
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ga!nusha |
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they will be ok.
i removed them because i changed the colour of the dashboard. and to get to the LED's i have to strip ![]() |
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martin245 |
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How did you remove the cover around the light and indicator stalks .I dont want to break anything as I have two left hands
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logan 14 mpi Simply RED
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- GB 1 Bessy Regs
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ga!nusha |
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If i remember well.... it has some screws on the back...but i'm not 100% sure... i did it 2 years ago...
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g100sic |
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Stu, you surely noticed that speed dial is illuminated from the inside! Would you want to cover it completely with a non-transparent sticker?! Then you won't have any illumination of the dial in the dark whatsoever! The alternative would be to have both sets of dials, for example in contrentric layout, but would that be acceptable?
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Ford
Fiesta 1.4 (96 HP)
2010 / Trend (Flex Pack 11) Never argue with a fool -- people might not notice the difference! (Murphy's First Law of Debate)
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martin245 |
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No its OK now ! I have the template and will be having it done by a mate in England it will be (IN PLACE ) over the old Tacho thanks to Galnusha he has been a great help ..as all of you
Stu |
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dacia
logan 14 mpi Simply RED
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- GB 1 Bessy Regs
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ga!nusha |
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you can also completly replace the spedo and rpm dials.... you can use the template to make a new one that also has tranparency. you can create a transparent layer and stick over the black layer that is not transparent....
so you will have a layer with the digits that is transparent and one with the background that is not transparent.. my english is so crappy today... This post has been edited by ga!nusha: 9 Sep 2008, 10:29 |
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heinz57g |
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>> my english is so crappy today...
no no, its fine, we all understand what you are saying. actually, it is, well, very 'transparent'. and much better than stu's, at times. so keep the tips coming ... greetings - heinz - This post has been edited by heinz57g: 9 Sep 2008, 16:02 |
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DACIA
LOGANs, several
2004 - 2008 There is nothing wrong with change, if it is in the right direction. Thats why the British drive on the left.
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martin245 |
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Yes I am getting one made with all the colours and maybe i will have my name inside ...............Stu........ haha
Heinz it is not hard to spoke better England then I couldnt wen eye was a children ![]() Bessie Still regs Stu |
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logan 14 mpi Simply RED
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heinz57g |
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>> couldnt wen eye was a children
well, thats was over ten years ago. having your name inside the dial is a great idea. put it at about 55mph, since that is your top speed anyhow. seriously, for those who read here and are not firm about their english: dont worry about it, write and discuss things here anyhow. dont be shy because of your language. we can always sort things out, or just ask a couple of times, again and again. but we are all 'foreigners' here trying to help each other. and poor stu. greetings - heinz - PS: stu, ever come across a german song 'Ich Bin Der Martin' ? |
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LOGANs, several
2004 - 2008 There is nothing wrong with change, if it is in the right direction. Thats why the British drive on the left.
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martin245 |
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Yes it was from Dieter Krebs und er hatte von Krebbs Gestorben
Stu |
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logan 14 mpi Simply RED
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