Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+ GM daewoo ar putea intra in faliment, Urmand sa fie preluat de samsung

Deocamdata doar niste zvonuri, insa se pare ca guvernul sud coreean, vrea ca filiala gm din coreea - daewoo, sa intre in faliment cat de curand pentru a o scoate de sub influenta gm, care profita prea mult de cercetarile si platformele construite acolo(fara sa dea prea mult in schimb, asa cum au facut si la opel). Urmand ca dupa, sa fie vandut grupului renault-samsung. Deocamdata sunt doar niste zvonuri citite pe niste forumuri americane, da ar fi rasu plansul pentru unii daewoo-isti sa ajunga in curtea renault-nissan. Poate in felul asta ia si kaveo 3 5 stele euroncap This post has been edited by aphophis: 29 Jun 2009, 20:39

Deocamdata doar niste zvonuri, insa se pare ca guvernul sud coreean, vrea ca filiala gm din coreea - daewoo, sa intre in faliment cat de curand pentru a o scoate de sub influenta gm, care profita prea mult de cercetarile si platformele construite acolo(fara sa dea prea mult in schimb, asa cum au facut si la opel). Urmand ca dupa, sa fie vandut grupului renault-samsung. Deocamdata sunt doar niste zvonuri citite pe niste forumuri americane, da ar fi rasu plansul pentru unii daewoo-isti sa ajunga in curtea renault-nissan. Poate in felul asta ia si kaveo 3 5 stele euroncap

This post has been edited by aphophis: 29 Jun 2009, 20:39

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nu prea inteleg ce ar avea de castigat renault - samsung de pe urma acestei tranzactii. Banuiesc cand spui daewoo nu spui chevrolet cu Cruze si alte minunatii.... spui chevrolet cu aveo, matiz 2 si alte bombe.

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@rtbk, ar castiga piata sud coreeana (care e foarte foarte ermetica, practic importurile au o cota foarte mica de piata) si alte cateva piete unde daewoo (si nu chevrolet) are vanzari bune. Dar oricum, deocamdata e doar zvon care circula pe forumuri americane

This post has been edited by aphophis: 29 Jun 2009, 23:19

Ar fi un lucru bun atat pentru Renault cat si pentru GMDAT, pentru ca acolo au fost dezvoltate masini bune, de exemplu Captiva.

In anul 2008 GMDAT a obtinut 20% din profiturile GM, deci in orice caz GM nu renunta la GMDAT asa aiurea, in cel mai rau caz o vinde pe bani grei ... Nu vedeti ce afirmatie credibila, cica este preluata de pe niste forumuri americane ... deci discutau niste bezmetici pe acolo ... asta daca e intr-adevar asa.


Ai citit ce-am scris eu mai sus?!?

This post has been edited by R19/16v: 1 Jul 2009, 14:19

Postul asta trebuia sa il scrii pe topicul de pe cafenea.

De ce ? Chiar mi se pare aiurea sa prezinti ca mare chestie de discutat ce-si dau cu parerea unii pe nush ce forum, cica american. Daca era o chestie mai serioasa pe vreun site de specialitate, mai ziceam ... Si ce mare tragedie ar fi pentru mine, un cetatean din Craiova daca Renault ar cumpara GMDAT, mama-mama ... Ce face Renaulkt cu banii e treaba lui Renault, eu am alte griji ...

Iar chestia cu profitul e reala, dar e vorba de 20%.

This post has been edited by R19/16v: 1 Jul 2009, 14:20

@smailmiami


nu cred ca ai citit atent. nu gm ar vrea sa vanda (saracu, tine cu dintii de gmdat)ci guvernul sud coreean vrea sa forteze falimentul gmdat pentru a-l vinde mai departe, din cauza faptului ca banii si rezultatele cercetarilor gm dat sunt sifonati in sua, fara ca gm sa dea ceva in schimb. Cum au facut si la opel.

cat despre oamenii cu cap, chiar sunt curios ce ar zice unii daca gmdat ar ajunge sub umbrela renault, tinand seama ca lor le pute tot ce e frantuzesc

This post has been edited by aphophis: 30 Jun 2009, 19:49

Nenea, GMDAT a fost cea mai profitabila divizie a GM-ului, nu vad cum i-ar forta cineva sa vanda impotriva vointei lor, decat pe bani grei-grei. Oricum, asa aprecia un link de pe acel forum american sa vad unde ar presupune cineva ca i-ar cumpara chiar Reno.

cat despre oamenii cu cap,    chiar sunt curios ce ar zice unii daca gmdat ar ajunge sub umbrela renault, tinand seama ca lor le pute tot ce e frantuzesc 

Cat despre ultima afirmatie, sincer mi-ar fi greu sa explic si sa fac pe unul ca tine sa priceapa ca majoritatea oamenilor n-au vise erotice cu propria masina si au si alte griji decat a demonstra ca "a mea e mai mare".

This post has been edited by smailmiami: 30 Jun 2009, 20:09

o fi ea cea profitabila, da tocmai asta e problema, ca americanii jefuiesc practic gmdat-ul. SUrse: autblog.com, thetruthaboutcars, parca si pe forum-auto.com am vazut ceva

Da' ce dracu jefuiesc frate ?! Nu ei au dat banu' si l-au cumparat ?! Nu e al lor ?! N-au dreptul sa foloseasca orice tehnologii de acolo cand si cum vor ?! De ce nu l-a cumparat guvernul sud-coreean acu 6 ani ?

Am cautat pe site-urile alea dupa cuvantul cheie GMDAT si n-am gasit nimic legat de ce zici tu ... Esti amabil sa pui direct linkul sa vada si ochiul nostru ?

This post has been edited by smailmiami: 30 Jun 2009, 20:51

o fi ea cea profitabila, da tocmai asta e problema, ca americanii jefuiesc practic gmdat-ul. SUrse: autblog.com, thetruthaboutcars, parca si pe forum-auto.com am vazut ceva

Americanii nu jefuiesc doar GMDAT. Ei jefuiesc tot ce prind, oriunde sunt implicati: automotive, petrol si gaze, medicina, fizica, telecomunicatii.

autoblog.com oricum nu vad de ce te oftici atata

autoblog.com oricum nu vad de ce te oftici atata

Dimpotriva, nu ma intereseaza deloc, si nu m-a interesat niciodata nimic despre GM, decat fabrica din Craiova, chiar am alte probleme in viata de zi cu zi decat sa mai duc si grija GM-ului . Eu banuiesc ca pur si simplu minti, de aia vreau sa vad unde se discuta pe orice forum ca GMDAT se vrea scos de sub tutela GM si ca Renault ar fi interesat sa ii cumpere, dupa cum afirmi tu in acest topic nou. Daca imi arati topicul respectiv de pe forumul respectiv, eu nu mai am nici o treaba. Am cautat singur pe autoblog dar nu am gasit nimic.

This post has been edited by smailmiami: 4 Jul 2009, 21:10

culmea e ca acu se pare ca cei de la gm se gandesc sa ii aranjeze pe coreeni, prin renuntarea la marca daewoo pe piata coreean

All kinds of strange news are coming from GM’s Korean foster child Daewoo. Two days ago, Daewoo CEO Mike Arcamone announced: “In 2010, GM Daewoo will be profitable. That is my target.” That didn’t get much traction. Reporters wanted to know how bad last year’s numbers were. Arcamone remained tight-lipped. He admitted red ink for 2009, how much remains anybody’s guess. In 2008, it was $773m worth of red. Last October Daewoo-is-me had to be bailed out by the bailed-out GM to the tune of $413m. Arcamone has some soothing news: “We currently do not seek any other financial support from our creditors.” The operative word is “currently.” There is one way to stop the hemorrhage for good: Pack it in.

Arcamone bravely announced that he would fight to the last bullet, employ “aggressive” sales tactics, improve sales networks, reduce structural costs, launch three new models and manage working capital more efficiently. In other words, the usual measures when you are at your wits end. He did not mention that Daewoo would ditch their dealer network and their name. That was left for later.

Today, Korea’s Chosun Iibo has new dispatches from the crumbling front: “Daewoo has announced a breakup with Daewoo Motor Sales Corp., which used to be its sole network of dealerships. The automaker will choose other dealers.” Their source is none else than Mike Arcamone.

Founded in 1993 by spinning off the sales unit of Daewoo, Daewoo Motor Sales took exclusive charge of selling GM Daewoo cars in the domestic market since 2002, when GM acquired the Korean carmaker. In January, GM Daewoo introduced a system whereby separate dealers are designated in each of the eight regions, and Daewoo Motor Sales’ right in four regions were withdrawn. Note to Arcamone: When your market share goes down, exchanging your whole dealer network is rarely a good idea. Daewoo’s share in Korea was down to 7.9 percent last year from 9.6 percent in 2008. Hyundai and Kia Motors together monopolize more than 70 percent of the Korean market.

The Chosun Iibo thinks dumping Daewoo Motor Sales is a whitewashing maneuver: “There is criticism that GM simply tries to shift the burden from local sales to dealerships so as to minimize its liabilities when it exits the Korean market.” Say what? They bail?

Now, for the next Daewoo-wo-wo news: “General Motors is considering replacing the Daewoo brand with the Chevrolet name in South Korea,” says Financial Times today. Who’s the source of that harebrained rumor? Mikey did it again. Not quite a done deal yet. Arcamone is thinking about it.

According to the FT, “Mike Arcamone, GM Daewoo’s president, yesterday said the company would reveal its decision on the rebranding by the middle of May.”

“This is a huge decision that will have a major impact on our future business and success in Korea,” Mr Arcamone said yesterday. You better believe it.

Before, GM had not used the US brand in South Korea. They thought such a move could alienate the last few customers they have. “Such a move would also face resistance from labor unions,” says the FT. So why now? Preparation for an orderly retreat from the Korean peninsula?

The Chosun Iibo had choice words for that idea: “The introduction of the Chevrolet brand could cause GM Daewoo to lose the two most essential factors for survival — the capacity to develop new models and its own brand identity.”

Let’s see how red Daewoo’s 2009 was. Then, we’ll start the Daewoo Death Watch.

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/daewoo-wo...ea/#more-348731