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C@talin
post 27 Mar 2007, 20:27
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Deci.Am instalat mandriva linux 2007 pe alta [partitie,mai am si xp.A terminat de instalat mi-am ales eu user name parola ca ma obligat sa o pun dry.gif ,si dupa restart o mica surpiza,il incarca normal da nu apare ca windows xp desktop ,in schimb imi apare ca un fel de ms-dos si ma pune sa scru nustu ce comenzi acolo si habar nu am ce sa fac ohmy.gif ,putin ajutor va rog mult ,cum il fac sa mearga.sa apara desktopu.
La meniu de instalare nu am dat instal principal ca se bloca ,adica nustu ,da ramanea ecranu negru ,am stat asa 30 min si nu a pornit,si iam dat mai jos la instalare cu ad ceva disable,sa fie asta cauza ? unsure.gif sad.gif

stiu ca are lume pe aici linux ,help,dau de baut tongue.gif


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post 27 Mar 2007, 20:40
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rugaciune.gif plange.gif nu stie nimeni? plange.gif


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post 27 Mar 2007, 20:42
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radmasa.gif radmasa.gif radmasa.gif

Nu stiu ce fac dar ma bag ...

La prima impresie poate este boot loader-ul ...

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post 27 Mar 2007, 20:44
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Nu ai instalat X-ul. La nivelul tau de cunostinte cred ca o sa iti fie destul de greu sa instalezi pachetele la mana si sa faci setarile necesare. Pentru tine singura solutie este reinstall-ul in care sa ai grija sa incluzi si pachetele legate de X (interfata grafica). De asemeni ai grija cum setezi boot loaderul, sa nu pierzi si boot-ul de la XP, desi eu cred ca e cam tarziu sa iti dau sfatul asta.

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post 27 Mar 2007, 20:53
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parca era ceva cu x si iam dat ca nu ma lasa sa merg mai departe fara,xp merge bine scriu dupa el acuma

imi apare ceva cu login la linuix dau acolo numele porma pass si zice registration faild
altadata da nuimele de id urmat de host


asta apare dupa ecranul albastru pe care scrie mandriva free,si jos incarca windowsul linux sad.gif

llee :din poza aceia am selectata tot inafara de server e bine?

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post 27 Mar 2007, 21:26
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Nu-ti porneste interfata grafica (serverul X). Logheaza-te la command prompts si da-i startx si zi-ne ce spune.


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post 27 Mar 2007, 21:40
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hehe ,am probleme mari server error,(EE) error,si vreau sa mentionez ca atunci cand am configurat placa video mia dat erroare la test (EE) error ,deci nustu sunt depasit ,placa video nam gasito in lista lui acolo e un pci ex x800gto ati

si am lasat asa ce a gasit el auto si tot dadea eroare cand ii dadeam test sad.gif

pot sa mai fac o poza daca vreiti ,da nustu daca se mai vede ceva la scris sad.gif ca se intinde mult scrisu cand dau comanda start x

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post 27 Mar 2007, 21:48
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Or, pune Ubuntu si ai scapat de probleme de genu.

Oricum...XP nu e bun? Ce te complici cu linux, mai ales daca cunostintele tale sunt limitate (sau...cel putin asa par a fi).


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post 27 Mar 2007, 21:51
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eui vroiam linux asta ca mergeau si jocuri pe el ca wow si altele sad.gif.l-am instalat pe 64 de biti linuxu sa fie si asta o problema procesoru e athlon 64 3000+,


LEE uite ce zic astia pe situ asta,ce inseamna oare?
http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/slackware...nd-help-me.html

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post 27 Mar 2007, 22:32
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Posibil ca distributia aia nu are driver X pentru placa ta grafica si te chinui degeaba. De cand e distributia ? Cumva dinainte sa apara placa grafica ?


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post 27 Mar 2007, 22:33
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Incearca ce comunitarea mandriva de la noi...dar ca fost utilizator de mandriva 2007 x64/x86 iti recomand sa incerci alta distributie de ex SuSe 10.2. Dupa parerea mea e mai buna pentru incepatori, dar la capitolul asta parerile sunt foarte impartite.
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post 27 Mar 2007, 23:02
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Nu e configurat cum trebuie X-ul. Daca vrei batai de cap cauta pe net xorgcfg sau xorgconfig (astea sunt doua utilitare deja existente in linux-ul tau care te ajuta sa configurezi partea grafica).
Avand in vedere ca esti incepator eu iti recomanda SuSE.


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post 27 Mar 2007, 23:08
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hai ca am reusit sa va spun si cum,am luat fiecare placa la rand pana mia dat una la test pass adica a reusit,si acuma merge ,numai ca e cam naspa ca nu pot sa instalez modemul de la clicknet care eprin usb ,nu recunoste exe sad.gif linuxu asta,cred ca ramsn la xp biggrin.gif,nu toate schimbarile sunt bune tongue.gif


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post 27 Mar 2007, 23:22
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C@talin, aparent placa ta video nu e suportata de xorg chiar asa bine. Incearca sa folosesti driverele ATI de la http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html
P.S. ATI Linux support sucks -> ATI sucks

Edit: vad ca ai reusit ceva cu placa video. Pt. modem cauta pe Google dupa "linux speedtouch pppoe"
http://www.linux.com/howtos/DSL-HOWTO/speedtouchusb.shtml
http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/mandrake/index.html

Ca idee, cred ca ai obtine mai multe rezultate daca ai pune intrebari de Linux pe un forum de utilizatori Linux wink.gif
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post 28 Mar 2007, 06:41
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adip multumesc tie si celorlalti,da mai am o intrebare .am downlodat cu xp driverul ptr linux la placa video da nustu cum sal instalez in linux
,ca nu e ca la xp click si gata incepe,nu,el ma baga in alta fereastra sa dau eu nustu ce nu crede.gif intrebare.gif wacko.gif

stiu stiu sunt un caz pierdut icon_mrgreen.gif

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post 28 Mar 2007, 11:10
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post 28 Mar 2007, 11:14
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This helps? or this?

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post 28 Mar 2007, 14:12
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mdea sunt varza rau la linux renunt, smile.gif nici muran gura nu reusesc nustui programele pe acolo e pre amulte si prea multe comenzi,eu deabia stiu cateva conenzi in ms dos da pai in linux care sunt diferite si e cidat tare,fie ,xp rullzz for me biggrin.gif


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post 28 Mar 2007, 14:19
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Omule, repet, chiar nu stiu de ce te bagi. Ziceai de joace. sunt 3-4-5 joace serioase care merg ca lumea pe linux. Joculete beta, open source, o gramada...dar te joci cu ele? Ma tem ca plictisesti, sau simti nevoia de ceva nou.

Pentru jocuri, tot platforma Windows ramane de departe nr 1. Asta daca excludem consolele.

Stick to XP. Sau try Vista daca ai chef de senzatii, dar sa ai si ceva satisfactii biggrin.gif


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post 28 Mar 2007, 15:38
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am avut vista,nu merita nici ala,nu gaseam programe la adaptor bluetooth si alte chestii


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post 28 Mar 2007, 15:52
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Mei, eu când am vrut să te ajut tu ai zis că nu vrei! Na, descurcă-te acum! 04.gif


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post 28 Mar 2007, 16:09
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Si nu mergeau alea de vista sub nici o forma? Oricum, o sa mearga in curand. Eu is programator, si acuma ma chinui sa descurc itele "securitatii" in Vista la fisiere si registry, dar sunt chestii care se lamuresc, si o sa apara update-uri. In schimb la linux, multe probleme poti sa ai, mai ales cum zice lumea pe aici (dar nu numai) cand vine vorba de ATI.

No offence la linuxisti, dar de vreo 10-15 ani tot aud ca linux bate windows, dar e depaaaaarte. Am tot cochetat si eu cu linux, ultima tentativa fiind Ubuntu, care desi se zice ca e pentru idioti, m-a terminat psihic la instalarea driverelelor video. Un simplu standard installation, cu o placa NVidia m-a terminat psihic. De mult m-am mai patit asa ceva in Windows. Windows 95 imi facea dinastea la greu, dar atunci nu aveam net sa caut solutii, nu tu driverele cele mai noi. Atunci era hardcore. Acum lucrurile sunt mai simple, dar nu si pentru Linux, nu intotodeauna.

Stick to XP. Merg bine applicatiile pe el, device-urile la fel, joacele la fel. Daca vrei ceva nou, schimba-ti masina, femeia sau orasul. Dar sistemul de operare lasa-l, ca e bun asta. Eventual cumpara-i o licenta daca nu ai.

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post 28 Mar 2007, 17:03
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i love windows xp, smile.gif parca e blestem tot timpu cand incercam sa-l schimb ,imi dadea peste nas si tot la el ma intorceam.

ptr mine xp e bun ,nus programator ,nici cu c++ nustu sa umblu biggrin.gif

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Linux is user friendly, it's just very selective about who its friends are...


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post 28 Mar 2007, 19:13
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QUOTE(C@talin @ 28 Mar 2007, 06:41)
adip multumesc tie si celorlalti,da mai am o intrebare .am downlodat cu xp driverul ptr linux la placa video da nustu cum sal instalez in linux
,ca nu e ca la xp click si gata incepe,nu,el ma baga in alta fereastra sa dau eu nustu ce  nu crede.gif  intrebare.gif  wacko.gif

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mkdir /mnt/xp - creeaza director
mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/xp - monteaza partitia XP-ului
cd /mnt/xp - te duci unde ai montat xp-ul
ls -la - o sa iti arate tot ce ai pe partitia cu xp-ul
cd calea_spre_driver - te duci unde ai salvat driverul
cp driver /tmp - copii driverul in /tmp
cd /tmp - te duci in /tmp
daca e rpm, rpm -i driver.rpm - instalezi driverul


Asta e teoretic.... practic, difera mult radmasa.gif


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post 28 Mar 2007, 19:15
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052.gif wacko.gif uite dasta nu-mi place linux mie.20 de comenzi pentru un amarat de instal. tongue.gif

PS un dictionar ceva ai ,sau mai injurat acolo mai sus radmasa.gif

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post 28 Mar 2007, 19:20
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Pai pentru instalare e o singura comanda (ultima). Ca sa ajungi la calea catre fisierul ce contine driverele mai dai cateva comenzi.

Disconfortul tau vine din faptul ca te-ai obisnuit mai mult cu utilizarea mouse-ului decat a tastaturii. Dupa putina practica, nu o sa mai sesizezi diferenta.


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post 28 Mar 2007, 19:23
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hai ca mai intreb ceva ,cum se scrie calumea comanda aia de instal ca de aici (daca e rpm, rpm -i driver.rpm - instalezi driverul) nu am inteles tongue.gif clar,adica mai nimic tongue.gif,cum se sciee perfect worship.gif


LE yoy am gasit acolo in consola la linux am ajuns la driver cu extensia .rpm si m-am blocat ce comnada dau ca sal instaleze ca sa numele doar nu a mers cand l-am scris.putin ajutor please ca poate reusesc sa intalez driveru video s anu mai se miste ferestrele in reluare sleep.gif

e ceva ceva asemanator cu ms-dos da aici mai trebuie sa lasi spatii si dasta numi mergeau unele comenazi blush.gif

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post 28 Mar 2007, 21:57
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hmm speranta mia scazut la zero,nustu cum sa fac sa am acces la root care e lock.am inteles ca se poate instala doar din root si cand dau cd /root da permision denie sad.gif


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C@talin: pt. a utiliza contul de root:
su -
Si bagi parola pe care ti-a cerut-o la instalare, daca o mai tii minte.
In orice caz, mie imi place ca esti perseverent si ca vrei sa lucrezi cu Linux. Atat ca:
1. nu stiu daca ai gasit cea mai buna metoda de a scurta curba invatarii, si anume apeland la un forum de soferi in locul unuia dedicat wink.gif
2. pregateste-te sa citesti documentatie. Linux nu e Windows.


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