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post 25 Feb 2021, 21:08
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Duminica, 15.09.2019 - Partea a III-a

Spre oras, din cupola Reichstag-ului.

Cancelaria federala, acolo unde sta frau Merkel.

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Gara centrala.

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Cupola vazuta din exterior.

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De la incendiul din 1933 [pare ca Goering s-a ocupat de asta, insa nu s-a ajuns la o concluzie clara si unamina] si pana in 1995 Reichstag-ul nu a mai fost folosit [era in Berlinul de Vest, foarte aproape de Zid].

Lucrarile de reconstructie si cele pentru cupola.

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Duminica, 15.09.2019 - Partea a IV-a

Urmeaza fostul aerport Gatow, azi muzeu. Insa de la Reichstag pana acolo este ceva de mers.
Drumul a inceput din Gara Centala. Pana sa vina S-Bahn-ul, unul dintre multele trenuri regionale care trec pe acolo [a se observa locurile pentru bicicleta].

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Cu S-Bahn-ul am mers pana la Spandau, cel mai vestic district al Berlinului.

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Primaria din Spandau.

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A urmat un drum de vreo 30-40 de minute cu autobuzul, apoi vreo 15 - 20 de minute pe jos.

Diverse personaje din istoria aviatiei mondiale dau azi numele unor strazi din zona.

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Plus personaje din mitologia greaca care au legatura cu zborul.

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Revenind la sol, curtea unui fan Mercedes.

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post 8 Mar 2021, 23:32
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Duminica, 15.09.2019 - Partea a V-a

Urmeaza fostul aeroport Gatow, azi muzeu.

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Intrarea [gratis] se face prin containerul din stanga

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care face trimitere la Blocada Berlinului.

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Gramada de avioane.

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Fiat G 91 Gina.

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Suhoi 22.

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Turnul de control.

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post 9 Mar 2021, 09:09
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cladirea cu turnul de control seamana a naibii de bine cu cea de la Titu. reciclau rusii planurile


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post 9 Mar 2021, 23:37
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Exista aeroport la Titu?

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Duminica, 15.09.2019 - Partea a VI-a

MIG 23.

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Dassault Super Mystere B.2.

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F 86K Sabre.

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MIG 15.

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MIG 21.

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post 10 Mar 2021, 08:00
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A existat aeroport militar la Titu , până au făcut RTR.
Reciclezi planurile, daca poți, de ce sa nu?
Macar personalul va ști în fiecare aeroport unde e, ce e, etc

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post 15 Mar 2021, 00:16
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Mersi. Vad ca RTR [Renault Technologie Roumanie] din Titu se afla pe strada Avioatorilor, nr. 1, asadar se leaga cu ceea ce spui.

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Duminica, 15.09.2019 - Partea a VII-a

Nord 2501 Noratlas.

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Cistena pentru degivrat avioane.

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C 160 Transall.

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MI 4.

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"Campionul" MI 8.

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Huey [Bell UH 1].

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post 15 Mar 2021, 08:28
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Am fost acolo și pe vremea când era aeroport

Din poze credeam caNord e un Flying Boxcar

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post 15 Mar 2021, 23:51
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Duminica, 15.09.2019 - Partea a VIII-a

Inceputurile aviatie militare. Ocazie cu care am aflat ca primul raid aerian l-au facut italienii impotriva turcilor in 1911 in Libia.

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Tot spre marea mea mirare, am aflat ca in Germania a exista serviciu militar obligatoriu pana in 2011. In RO, parca undeva pe la inceputul anilor 2000 s-a renuntat la serviciul militar obligatoriu.

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Despre Hermann Oberth, unul dintre parintii aeronauticii, nascut la Sibiu in 1984 si fluent, printre altele, in limba romana.

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Hermann Oberth si Werner von Braun.

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Heinkel HE 111.

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Dupa razboi, Heinkel a produs scutere, foarte apreciate de catre nemtii RFG-isti. La tura din 2018, am stat de vorba cu niste nemti care aveau un scuter Heinkel de prin anii '70, perfect functional.

Brigazile Internationale [comuniste] din Razboiul Civil din Spania.

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Poate nu vad io bine, insa pare ca in poza de mai jos de vede tricolorul romanesc.

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Despre implicare sovietica din Razboiul Civil din Spania.

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Imperiul colonial german in anul 1914.

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O gluma, comparativ cu Imperiul Colonial britanic sau cel francez.


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post 15 Mar 2021, 23:58
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E tricolor, nu-i românesc. E roșu galben bleumarin
Iete cine n-a jucat Panzer General 2 la vremea lui.


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post 16 Mar 2021, 14:27
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Mersi pentru explicatie.
Ce tara era reprezentata de tricolorul roșu galben bleumarin?

Cat despre jocuri, m-am oprit la Quake si Age of Empires. Varianta lor pe discheta, de acum peste 20 de ani.


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post 16 Mar 2021, 14:32
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International...igades#Overview Aici sa zice ca au fost si 500 de romani pe acolo. Dar nu zic ca wiki e vreo sursa de absoluta incredere. Insa vad ca nu erau reuniti dupa natii.
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Ion Moța, the Romanian deputy leader of the Legion of the Archangel Michael (or Iron Guard), led a group of seven Legionaries who visited Spain in December 1936 to ally their movement to the Nationalists by presenting a ceremonial sword to survivors of the Siege of Alcazar.[95] In Spain, the Legionaires decided, against the orders that had been given to them in Bucharest, to join the Spanish Foreign Legion. Within days of joining, Moța and Vasile Marin, another prominent Legionary, were killed on the Madrid Front at Majadahonda.


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post 16 Mar 2021, 15:48
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Memoria mea zice ca erau Republicanii, aia aliati cu rusii, ca ii ciomageai din pozitia celorlalti rosu-galben-rosu , aliati cu italienii si cu nemtii.
Era razboi civil; unul din razboaiele proxy in care si-au verificat armamentul si tacticile si unii si altii

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post 16 Mar 2021, 23:26
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QUOTE(einstein1984 @ 16 Mar 2021, 16:32)
Aici sa zice ca au fost si 500 de romani pe acolo.


Printre romanii care au luptat in razboiul civil din Spania a fost si Valer Roman [Ernő Neuländer nume real] si tatal lui Petre Roman sau Leonte Tismăneanu [Leonid Tisminetski nume real] si tatal lui Vladimir Tismaneanu.

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Duminica, 15.09.2019 - Partea a IX-a

Focke-Wulf FW 190.

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Buncar pentru o persoana.

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MIG 29.

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Totdeauna am fost fascinat de acest avion, cu o silueta similara unei gaste obeze care pare ca nu se poate ridica de la sol. Insa, odata ridicat de la sol este capabil de multe performante.

Capat de drum pentru armata RDG-ului.

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post 17 Mar 2021, 08:29
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Avem si noi unul expus la muzeul aviatiei de la Aurel vlaicu. Culmea e ca aveau planuri de modernizare pentru ele, de ce au fost casate si nu pastrate alaturi de mIG 21 nu stiu (banui ca din motive de costuri totusi)


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QUOTE(einstein1984 @ 17 Mar 2021, 08:29)
aveau planuri de modernizare pentru ele, de ce au fost casate si nu pastrate alaturi de mIG 21 nu stiu (banui ca din motive de costuri totusi)
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nu au mai avut resursa de zbor pt ele...si cum propulsoarele se aduceau de la rusi..cam greu.

apoi...problema costurilor...nu se merita...avioane cu resursa limitata...avionica veche...

lancerul mult mai versatil la peticit in tara sleep.gif


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MiG 29 erau putin - 12 aparate parca din care s-au mai si prabusit
MiG 23 - un avion scump de folosit
MiG 21- simplu, invechit, usor de peticit, numar mare de aparate; vorba lui Mediocrites: Good enough

MiG29 e un avion mult mai bun ca 21, asta nu cred ca avem ce discuta, dar:
- trebuia reparat la Ivan,
- motoarele se luau de la Ivan
- nu stiai ce le face Ivan pe la coada
- Ivan si NATO not love


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Facem noi motoare de mig 21?


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http://www.aerostar.ro/militare

din cate stiu eu, le reparau, acum cat de reparau, nu stiu exact.

Ideal era sa rupa pisica in doua, sa ia de acu 15 ani F16, daca tot ne wub.gif cu NATO


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Acuma ... ca Mig 21 sau F16, tot niste vechituri sunt ... si in caz de ceva (nu ca armata romana ar conta) .. tot nu avem cu ce apara spatiul aerian in raport cu ce are Ivan sau alte state ..


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@gibonu
Ai inversat 2 cifre mai sus. Hermann Oberth s-a născut la Sibiu la 25 iunie 1894. Nu de alta, dar citește cineva mai puțin informat și rămâne cu impresia ca e contemporan cu el smile.gif


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F16 totusi e 4th generation, indiferent ce avioane am avea, nu ne vom pemrite niciodata destule sa tinem piept rusilor.


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QUOTE(cj98czh @ 17 Mar 2021, 12:14)
Acuma  ... ca Mig 21 sau F16, tot niste vechituri sunt ... si in caz de ceva (nu ca armata romana ar conta) .. tot nu avem cu ce apara spatiul aerian in raport cu ce are Ivan sau alte state ..
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Ivan oricum ne mananca cu fulgi cu tot. Dar nu avem granita cu Ivan
Cu restul suntem in relatii normale

F16 mai are ceva viitor
MiG21 e o platforma semidecedata

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QUOTE(einstein1984 @ 17 Mar 2021, 10:12)
Facem noi motoare de mig 21?
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Nu...dar avem licenta de a le repara complet (resursa de zbor).
Nu stiu polonezii cum reusesc...sau reuseau sa le extinda viata.....la 29

Dar suntem...offf.

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QUOTE(einstein1984 @ 17 Mar 2021, 08:29)
Avem si noi unul expus la muzeul aviatiei de la Aurel vlaicu. Culmea e ca aveau planuri de modernizare pentru ele, de ce au fost casate si nu pastrate alaturi de mIG 21 nu stiu (banui ca din motive de costuri totusi)
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Nu au pastrat 29-le pentru ca erau putine si tocmai imbratisaseram democratia originala a lui Iliescu. Toti visau Occidentul si-si bagau picioarele in relatiile de pana atunci cu alte state (mai ales cu URSS-ul, care inca mai exista).
Polacii, desi la cutite cu rusii, au mentinut macar de aparenta legaturile in special comerciale. Urmarea a fost ca Polonia, avand deja Mig-29, au decis sa ramana cu el, era modern si performant. Au adunat 29 de pe unde au putut, inclusiv de la noi. Din ce stiu, marea problema cu 29 e motorul, mentenanta si piesele de schimb -- doar de la Ivan.


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Mentenanta o fac singuri...peste ivan care stramba din nas. Dar cum au licenta comunista...ca noi pe 21...ghinion. ps au luat propulsoare sh si de la noi.
Dar nu am mai gasit..scris ceva ca le mai folosesc.

Oricum..ukr au know how.ul.

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post 17 Mar 2021, 18:00
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Pai asta ziceam si eu, ca au luat 29 de pe unde au apucat si s-au descurcat. Chiar si de la rusi au mai cumpărat niste motoare. Noi am tras 29-le pe dreapta. Mi se pare ca atat de rau ajunsesem cu rusii incat nici nu le-am mai platit restul de 29 si am ramas cu ce au livrat de pe la mijlocul anilor '80 pana dupa '90, cativa ani. Stiu ca facuse Ceasca un contract cu rusii pentru cateva zeci de 29, din care au livrat undeva sub jumatate. Cand n-au mai primit restul de bani, au taiat si mentenanta si piese de schimb, asa ca nu ne-a mai ramas decat sa le tragem pe dreapta si sa adoptam solutia provizorie de a moderniza 21-le. De peste 20 de ani tot provizoriu e.

LE: polonezii parca au tras si ei 29-le pe dreapta. Nu stiu daca de tot.

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post 17 Mar 2021, 18:12
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Pai se pregatesc pt f35.

Destepti polacii. Bine au si granita nasoala si istoria invatata

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post 17 Mar 2021, 18:46
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QUOTE(dizzy @ 17 Mar 2021, 12:09)
MiG29 e un avion mult mai bun ca 21, asta nu cred ca avem ce discuta, dar:
- trebuia reparat la Ivan,
- motoarele se luau de la Ivan
- nu stiai ce le face Ivan pe la coada
- Ivan si NATO not love


La o cautare rapida, rezulta de pe Wikipedia ca Polonia are azi, functionale, 48 F 16 si 23 MIG 29. Si ei sunt in NATO la fel ca si noi. Cumva, au rezolvat-o polonezii si cu americanii si cu rusii.


17 Mar 2021, 20:49:
QUOTE(cj98czh @ 17 Mar 2021, 13:14)
Acuma  ... ca Mig 21 sau F16, tot niste vechituri sunt ...


Chiar daca am avea toti banii din lume, nu stiu daca ne incadram, dupa standardele americane la F 35.


17 Mar 2021, 20:50:
QUOTE(drrond @ 17 Mar 2021, 13:37)
@gibonu
Ai inversat 2 cifre mai sus. Hermann Oberth s-a născut la Sibiu la 25 iunie 1894. Nu de alta, dar citește cineva mai puțin informat și rămâne cu impresia ca e contemporan cu el smile.gif


Mersi si scuze pentru gresala.
Eu nu mai pot edita acum.


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https://www.google.ro/amp/s/mobile.reuters....1N21M1GP?espv=1

bani sa avem de f35

Marea neagra e acoperita toata de rusia

Wiki nu e sursa oficiala....or zice ca zboara 20..100..dar operationale cine stie.....

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