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post 17 Jan 2010, 16:00
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ainstaine, unde ai vazut bre ca se fac testele cu lumina-n torpedou aprinsa? radmasa.gif eu am auzit ca fac cu toti consumatorii (faza lunga, ceata, ventilatie, AC astiv, lumina habitaclu, etc.

Exact, daca nu are consumatori montati, nu au ce sa porneasca. Si ce e ala un astiv?
Softu de pe clio-ul ala nu prea are treaba cu ala de logan, sunt calibrari diferite.


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post 17 Jan 2010, 21:55
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pai normal ca sunt diferite; una e sa ai CAN si alta FILAR

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post 18 Jan 2010, 14:36
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QUOTE(membru_DC @ 17 Jan 2010, 10:51)
legat de forma acestora, o sa ne auzim mai tarziu sa dezbatem acest subiect...
Serios? Da ce au asa deosebit de trebuie sa discutam despre ele?


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post 27 Jan 2010, 09:33
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2008 Mitsubishi Aerodynamic Paper of Lancer X

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Il mai adaug si pe cel vechi 2004 Evo:

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post 29 Jan 2010, 12:34
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post 29 Jan 2010, 12:38
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Un citroen CX 25 aplica destule din solutiile de mai sus.


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post 29 Jan 2010, 12:51
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Si Oltcit-ul le are. Dar asta nu insemna ca nu mai pot fi explicate pentru toata lumea. Chiar si pentru cei care tot isi pun spoilere joase peste tot cu plasa de tantari si nu lasa sa iasa aerul de sub masina in partea din spate ...

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post 29 Jan 2010, 14:35
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Cu toate ca Dacia ofera un extractor foarte sexy pentru bara de Logan. Insa aerodinamica nu prea se pupa cu garda la sol sau cursa suspensiilor.


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post 29 Jan 2010, 14:59
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Dacia a ales sa puna un deflector in fata, decat sa faca carenaje si extractie de aer. In loc sa scapi de aerul din jurul masini cat mai repede, maresti suprafata frontala.

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post 29 Jan 2010, 15:01
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Tare sunt curios cum ar arata un Logan cu splitter sub bara fata.


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post 29 Jan 2010, 15:07
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Nu cum arata sa iti faci probleme, ci faptul ca este posibil sa ai o masina "nebalansata" ...


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post 29 Jan 2010, 15:10
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Pui si masa de calcat rufe in spate. Si se echilibreaza.... sau un spoiler mic ca la Clio RS deasupra lunetei.


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post 29 Jan 2010, 20:56
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ala al luneta nu face mare lucru, mai bine pui niste saci de nisip

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post 30 Jan 2010, 22:56
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post 7 Mar 2010, 16:54
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Tot eu ... pentru reducerea drag-ului si lift-ului negativ.

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post 16 Mar 2010, 10:51
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UP
QUOTE(Dr. Teddy Woll Senior manager of aerodynamics Mercedes-Benz)
The greatest potential for aerodynamic improvement is at the rear.


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post 16 Mar 2010, 11:28
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La ce unghi are luneta de logan, poti sa pui si masa de calcat pe portbagaj ca tot in vortex sta.
Era unu ieri cu 3 aripioare de rechin deasupra lunetei insa....


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post 29 Mar 2010, 11:43
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UP!

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[1] Sardou M., The Sensitivity of Wind-Tunnel Data to a High-Speed Moving Ground for Different Types of Road Vehicles, SAE 880246, 1988.

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post 26 Apr 2010, 20:18
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Logan – Eco2
Motorisation classique diesel (1.5 dCi 85CP Delphi Common-Rail 1600 bar) sans hybridation.
Ameliorations techniques abordables [....]
Homologation New European Driving Cycle: 97 g CO2/km
Circuit Shanghai : 71 gCO2 /km

PS: ca o remarca, "Ecoshift" se numeste in varianta de serie "Free-Shift" (Laguna 3, Kangoo 3, Scenic3 /Megane 3, etc.)

The 10th Challenge Bibendum: Rio de Janeiro from the 30th May to the 3rd June 2010


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post 29 Apr 2010, 14:06
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Si mai participa "Dacia" de data asta?

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QUOTE(Chevrolet Cruze Eco)
The Eco achieves greater fuel economy using a number of features that enhance its aerodynamics, minimize weight and reduce rolling resistance. Details include:

    * A lower front grille air shutter that closes at higher speeds to improve aerodynamics and opens at lower speeds to optimize engine-cooling airflow
    * The upper grille has more “closeouts” to improve aerodynamics
    * A lower front air dam extension, extensive use of underbody panels and a rear spoiler enhance aerodynamics
    * A lowered ride height improves aerodynamics


Am vazut modificarile pe masina si nu mi s-a parut nimic revolutionar. Sunt clasice.


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post 10 May 2010, 11:09
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QUOTE(IRONICK @ 8 Jan 2010, 11:29)
carenajul ala de la spate ce mai zice??
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QUOTE(YRX @ 9 Jan 2010, 10:44)
Asteapta temperaturi mai mari si un strat bun de rasina..... biggrin.gif
Sa vina vara mai repede !
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baieti ce se mai aude de carenaj, eram si eu interesat! sa aplatizez "conserva" pe spate post-336-1110552459.gif


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post 10 May 2010, 11:13
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Mai preseaza-l si tu pe YRX, ca eu o fac destul de des sa ne apucam de treaba. Eu i-am zis si acum doua zile ...

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Drag (Cx) and lift (Cz) change with diffuser angle. This is from a chapter on race and performance cars, so I don't know how close it is for non-race vehicles. Based on:
Bearman P.W., De Beer D., Hamidy E., Harvey J.K., The effect of a moving Floor on Wind-Tunnel Simulation of Road Vehicles, SAE 880245.

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Drag (Cx) and lift (Cz) of different downforce devices:
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2 - Rear diffuser,
3 - Diffuser plus front air dam.

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post 25 May 2010, 08:50
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Tu ai terminat toate modificarile posibile si acum le studiezi pe alea imposibile.
Pentru aia de nu inteleg cifrele si diagramele de mai sus:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kammback


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