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post 5 Jun 2009, 07:52
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Cred ca da. Anumite lucruri nu se uita!!
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Si anume ce?

Si daca e asa, de ce Alonso e considerat cel mai bun pilot al momentului, inclusiv de impartiala presa de specialitate britanica?


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post 5 Jun 2009, 09:01
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QUOTE(Modus @ 5 Jun 2009, 08:52)
Si anume ce?

Suzuka 2006.
Si de cand e Alonso pilotul momentului? laugh.gif Vezi ca suntem in 2009 nu in 2005.


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post 5 Jun 2009, 09:04
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Suzuka 2006, adica?


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post 5 Jun 2009, 09:11
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Poluati, folositi cu incredere PM-ul! Acolo puteti sa va masurati c.....ele si sa va certat, bineinteles! wink.gif


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post 5 Jun 2009, 09:25
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post 5 Jun 2009, 11:15
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QUOTE(TMihai @ 5 Jun 2009, 09:25)
Noroc cu intelepciunea ta wink.gif
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post 5 Jun 2009, 16:08
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QUOTE(Modus @ 5 Jun 2009, 07:52)
Si daca e asa, de ce Alonso e considerat cel mai bun pilot al momentului, inclusiv de impartiala presa de specialitate britanica?
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In vremurile prezente? Sincer, ma indoiesc.
Dar daca e asa, atunci radmasa.gif


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post 5 Jun 2009, 16:29
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Bine atunci, ramaneti cu Vettel.


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post 10 May 2010, 09:59
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Ca sa continuam aici discutia inceputa pe topicul despre SPANIA GP despre acest GP ............

De ce mai exista acest circuit in anul 2010?
O sa spuneti ca e vorba de bani, faima, vechime etc.
Este insa un circuit depasit din toate punctele de vedere.


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post 10 May 2010, 10:03
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E totusi altceva fata de celelalte circuite iar la cat spectacol este de ceva vreme incoace in F1 wacko.gif ...


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post 10 May 2010, 10:04
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O fi depasit, dar e extrem de spectaculos! Sper sa nu renunte la el, ar fi mare pacat.


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post 10 May 2010, 10:05
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E altceva, adevarat, dar eu consider ca acest altceva inseamna mai naspa, nu mai bine.

10 May 2010, 10:07:
Nu vor renunta, pentru ca toata "lumea buna" din F1 trebuie sa fie acolo si trebuie sa fie vazuta acolo.
Eu zic doar ca, din punctul meu de vedere, as renunta la acest circuit.

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post 10 May 2010, 10:07
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Preferi o cursa in Malayesia sau China? Pe astea le consider eu naspa, nu Monte Carlo!


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post 10 May 2010, 10:29
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QUOTE(Manuel @ 10 May 2010, 10:04)
O fi depasit, dar e extrem de spectaculos! Sper sa nu renunte la el, ar fi mare pacat.
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Am fost acolo doar o singura data e drept. Foarte frumos, are ceva special. Nu imi dau seama exact ce dar te indragostesti pe loc laugh.gif


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post 10 May 2010, 10:29
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Extrem de spectaculos? Cum asa? Nu te-ai suparat de cati ani te uiti la F1 sa vezi acelasi tunel, acelasi port, aceleasi case? Ce-i asa spectaculos aici? O sa ai in fiecare an o cursa liniara, anosta, de somn lin in care poate te mai trezeste un prost care nimereste gardul de langa port, sau poate inca iti mai tresare inima cand auzi ACELASI sunet din tunel...
MAL si CN sunt circuite bune, gandite, unde poate veni si omul de rand sa vada o masina de F1.

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Nu vor renunta, pentru ca toata "lumea buna" din F1 trebuie sa fie acolo si trebuie sa fie vazuta acolo.

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post 10 May 2010, 10:41
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QUOTE(Manuel @ 10 May 2010, 10:07)
Preferi o cursa in Malayesia sau China? Pe astea le consider eu naspa, nu Monte Carlo!
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Prefer orice cursa pe un circuit permanent.
Daca e sa vorbim de circuite stradale, atunci Valencia sau Singapore sunt circuite foarte OK.
La Monte Carlo, daca greseste cineva, se sta n tururi in spatele SC pana se aduna toate resturile masinii. Poate este frumoasa atmosfera, este frumos orasul, luxul si peisajele de acolo incanta privirea, dar strict vorbind despre cursa si ceea ce ofera circuitul acum, cred ca vorbim despre o Dacia Nova in anul 2010.


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post 10 May 2010, 12:18
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Abia astept cursa de la Monaco! Sa vedeti ce balamuc o sa iasa cu depasirile celor 3-4 echipe pocnitori! Dupa primele 7-8 tururi o sa inceapa circul! Sa vedeti ce de "nasuri" se vor schimba!


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post 10 May 2010, 12:29
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Eu vreau sa vad depasiri adevarate cum sunt astea

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post 10 May 2010, 12:42
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Tocmai ca pilotajul pe acest circuit este foarte greu spre imposibil face spectacolul mare. Toti pilotii spun ca este ceva special sa castigi la Monaco. David Coulthard spunea chiar ca "viata unui pilot se imparte intre inainte si dupa ce ai castigat la Monaco".


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post 10 May 2010, 12:54
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Eu nu pot trai ce traieste un pilot de F1 pe circuit la Monaco. Nici macar nu incerc pentru ca nu are rost. Problema este ca de x ani m-am saturat sa laud pilotii care termina cu masina intreaga Monaco. A avut ceva special la inceput, acum deja e monotonie. E monotonie generala in F1 dar asa mare ca pe Monaco unde "depasirile adevarate" nu mai sunt posibile, nu este biggrin.gif

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post 10 May 2010, 13:17
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Eu cred ca depasiri de genul asta nu o sa prea fie, Radule! Sunt toti mult mai interesati sa ajunga la final si sa ia puncte decat sa riste! Actualul sistem de punctare indeamna la cumpatare nu la razboi!


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post 10 May 2010, 13:22
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QUOTE(Solon @ 10 May 2010, 13:17)
Eu cred ca depasiri de genul asta nu o sa prea fie, Radule! Sunt toti mult mai interesati sa ajunga la final si sa ia puncte decat sa riste! Actualul sistem de punctare indeamna la cumpatare nu la razboi!
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Ai dreptate in mare parte. Dar de esti in situatia lui Hamilton de acum esti cam obligat sa ataci ca altfel ramai cu punctele alea putine. Asa ca mai sunt si piloti care vor merge la totul sau nimic, vor juca la ALL IN. laugh.gif Sunt convins ca Hamilton va ataca in fiecare cursa indiferent daca va avea materialul tehnic la inaltime sau nu pentru ca punctajul actual il obliga.

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post 10 May 2010, 13:34
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Pai asta ziceam si eu Soloane. Pe monaco stai cuminte si dormi linistit la cursa.


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post 10 May 2010, 14:51
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monaco inseamna traditie. restul e doar gargara


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post 10 May 2010, 14:59
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QUOTE(ionutctn @ 10 May 2010, 14:22)
Dar de esti in situatia lui Hamilton de acum esti cam obligat sa ataci ca altfel ramai cu punctele alea putine.
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Aaaaa pardon, faptul ca o atacat ca dementul in loc sa gandeasca l-o adus aici.

QUOTE(ionutctn @ 10 May 2010, 14:22)
Sunt convins ca Hamilton va ataca in fiecare cursa indiferent daca va avea materialul tehnic la inaltime sau nu pentru ca punctajul actual il obliga.
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Nu punctajul o sa faca asta, ci temperamentul.

A nu se intelege gresit, imi place, ca am la ce ma uita in timpul curse... dar intre el si Button, Button e ala care tace si face.


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monaco inseamna traditie. restul e doar gargara
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Pune-ti problema altfel... cand o sa se depaseasca iar pe monaco, inseamna ca au reusit sa aduca inapoi spectacolul in F1

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post 10 May 2010, 15:13
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b76bgaarh, iti spun eu ca mai sunt si altele care au mai multa traditie in motor-sport decat Monaco: Magny-Cours si Melbourne wink.gif


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melbourne? pai a fost schimbat cativa ani cu adelaide, magny cor cu le castelet.... este cam singurul care nu a fost schimbat....

pe monaco nu se depaseste de vreo 20-25 de ani. de altfel era renumit pt accidente nu pt depasiri spectaculoase.


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post 10 May 2010, 15:30
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QUOTE(RaduNG @ 10 May 2010, 15:13)
iti spun eu ca mai sunt si altele care au mai multa traditie in motor-sport decat Monaco: Magny-Cours si Melbourne wink.gif
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Nu este adevarat.
Din punctul asta de vedere, Monaco bate la fund foarte multe circuite. Exista in actualul calendar inca de la debutul competitiei numita F1 (daca nu ma insel, doar Monza mai are aceasta vechime in F1), dar pe acest circuit se organizau curse de GP cu mult timp inainte.

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monaco inseamna traditie. restul e doar gargara
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Si opulenta.

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Am cautat rapid date despre circuit :

Original circuit (1929-1972)
Surface Asphalt
Length 3.145 km (1.954 mi)
Turns 14
Lap record 1:22.2 ( Jackie Stewart, Tyrrell-Ford, 1971, Formula One)

A suferit apoi doar 4 modificari pana in prezent.


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