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eug3n92
post 7 Feb 2013, 21:34
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Buna seara.
Am pornit ieri Dacia mea 1300 din 1990.
Nu am mai pornit-o din noiembrie.
I-am pus bateria si am vazut ca avea o incarcare de 15,8 - 16,2 Volti.
Nu este prea mare incarcarea? Bateria este Rombat de 66 Amperi.
Ce parere aveti?

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post 7 Feb 2013, 21:53
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schimba releu de incarcare


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post 7 Feb 2013, 22:01
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Trebuie un anumit model anume? Nu se vede absolut nimic pe alternatorul ala.
Sau pur si simplu este pentru Dacia 1300 ?


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post 7 Feb 2013, 22:06
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nu este pe alternator,te duci si ceri releu de inncarcare pt dacia 1310


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post 7 Feb 2013, 22:08
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Si care ar fi valoarea normala de incarcare?


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post 7 Feb 2013, 22:09
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14:30 sau 13,7 cu consumatori posibil sa gresesc dar cam asa e


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post 7 Feb 2013, 22:11
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Multumesc mult pentru raspunsuri. smile.gif


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post 7 Feb 2013, 22:12
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nu ai pt ce

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dar conteaza care perie o leg la minus/plus?
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ma ajuta cineva?


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post 7 Feb 2013, 23:19
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ai supot de perii? , daca folosesti vechiul releu ca suport , merge dar intrerupi orice legatura electrica cu vechiul releu la ambele perii apoi pui una la masa , care ti-e mai usor si cealalta la DF releu


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post 8 Feb 2013, 23:45
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bygy multam mult azi am cumparat un releu malavina fara fir si am tras firele necesare modificarii,maine aflu rezultatu,raman dator de cinste

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gata merge multumesc mult de ajutor

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post 10 Feb 2013, 01:00
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post 19 Feb 2013, 23:08
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Salut! Am achizitionat un alternator ca al lui trzD, lam montat am facut conexiunile, incarca perfect si la relanti cu sau fara consumatori. Acuma vine intrebarea...eu nu iam pus bec la borna L ci doar firu rosu care venea la vechiul releu de incarcare, care e plus dupa contact! Are ceva daca merg asa cu el? Se poate arde?

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post 20 Feb 2013, 00:27
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eu zic sa ii pui un bec dala de 2W ca la pozitie far si o dioda serie , ca daca se arde puntea principala poti arde puntea secundara si releul , daca nu poti sau nu vrei in bord poti pune in compartimentu motor

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post 20 Feb 2013, 16:20
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acolo unde scrie L pui un fir cu dioda si in borb bec si gata ,in bord la mufa din mijloc ai loc liber,iei un papul ca si celelalte din mufa si mufezi firu si gata ,exact model deasta am eu de mai bine de 2 ani si nu am probleme cu el


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post 20 Feb 2013, 22:31
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Ok baieti merci mult de răspunsuri...o să caut dioda, bec am gasit de 2w...pâna acum totul ok merită investiția!!!


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post 25 Feb 2013, 00:04
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QUOTE(bygy007 @ 20 Feb 2013, 00:27)
eu zic sa ii pui un bec dala de 2W ca la pozitie far si o dioda serie , ca daca se arde puntea principala poti arde puntea secundara si releul , daca nu poti sau nu vrei  in bord poti pune in compartimentu motor
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Poti sa imi spui care este rolul diodelor trio din imaginea atasata de tine?


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post 25 Feb 2013, 10:55
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alimenteaza releul regulator si rotorul pentru a nu lua din baterie


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post 25 Feb 2013, 17:12
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Am un alternator(Paris rhone 50A) fara diode trio(din fabrica), iar releul regulator este model mai nou cu un fir suplimentar pentru alimentare din trio. Din schema producatorului regulatorului, reiese ca acel fir se conecteaza la stator sau "Ps" (nu are functie de turometru regulatorul).
Ar fi indicat sa ii contruiesc/adaptez un "trio" ?

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post 25 Feb 2013, 19:31
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poti face sau adapta acea punde din 3 diode redresoare de minim 10 A sau adapta de la un alt tip de alternator


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salut, Tocmai am primit un releu de incarcare electroprecizia tip91343 si nu am habar cum se leaga deoarece, el are 1 buc borna pentru papuc rotund cu piulita, 1 bucata borna pe papuc (astea stiu de unde se leaga), si mai are un fir de 20-30 cm care eu cred ca a avut vre-un papuc ceva, ca se vede ca e taiat. e asta e cuiul lui pepele...unde vine asta?


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post 13 Mar 2013, 01:12
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post 15 Mar 2013, 09:46
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Am facut rost de releu pentru masina, cel electronic cred ca si-a dat duhul, ori de la el putere ori faptul ca am scos bornele de la baterie si cum zic uni s-ar fi ars din acest motiv, in fine... cum leg acest tip de releu, pare bun... si vreau sa incerc si unul mecanic, cel electronic m-am tot chinuit cu el.

Multumiri anticipate!

Am gasit, dar minusul e pe carcasa???

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QUOTE(Adrian_Boy @ 15 Mar 2013, 08:46)
Am facut rost de releu pentru masina...

Am gasit, dar minusul e pe carcasa???

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Da, la toate e pe carcasa si e foarte important sa faca bine contact si cu alternatorul si cu caroseria .


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Salut, am o Nova GTI 1999 si cred ca am o problema la incarcare.In relanti imi incarca 14,05V fara consumatori si scade la 13,00V cand am consumatori.In turatie imi incarca 13,90V fara consumatori si scade la 13,60V cand am consumatori.E bine?


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QUOTE(baietelutmb @ 17 Mar 2013, 10:27)
Salut, am o Nova GTI 1999 si cred ca am o problema la incarcare.In relanti imi incarca 14,05V fara consumatori si scade la 13,00V cand am consumatori.In turatie imi incarca 13,90V fara consumatori si scade la 13,60V cand am consumatori.E bine?
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Este ~bine dar verifica carbunii.


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Am urmatoarea problema pe partea de incarcare la masina din semnatura.

Ralanti incarca 14,4V

Faza scurta pornita 15,6V

Faza lunga 13.0V



Operatiuni efectuate fara rezultat :

Am facut revizie la alternator, verificat diode ,schimbat carbuni.

Am inlocuit releul de incarcare electromagnetic cu unul identic .



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Schimba releu cu unu electronic cu fir de referinta ca cel din poza pentru o tensiune stabila.

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Nu cred ca este releul ,deoarece a functionat ok. Am valorile postate in topicul asta , pag anterioara.

L-am inlocuit cu unul testat si la fel facea.

Nu stiu ce as putea sa mai verific...

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Tresa de masa alternator-releu , s-a mai explicat enshpe mii de ori ...

Nu mai schimbati relee de-a moaca .


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Multam maverick, greseala mea ca nu am cautat suficient inainte.
Am inlocuit tresa si cred ca nu face masa suficient de bine. O sa rezolv.


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