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post 5 Feb 2019, 18:39
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QUOTE(axabrt @ 5 Feb 2019, 19:27)
Ai de capu tau. Alea cu 200kkm sunt noi.
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post 5 Feb 2019, 18:51
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Constatat ca aia afara au unele masini merse cam mult.
Recordul absolut pe care l am vazut eu.era vreo 160000 km intr un an.
Deci cam cati km sa.aibe o masina de 3 ani adusa de afara ?

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Vai ce naspa e. Imi vine sa vomit.
N as lua asa ceva nici pe gratis

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post 5 Feb 2019, 19:03
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In afar' de faptu' ca e diesel, ce are?

Si bara prinsa cu negrese... radmasa.gif

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post 5 Feb 2019, 19:04
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La masina aia se dau km inapoi pana pe la 80000 si p-orma cocalarii ipocriti se umfla-n pene ca porcu de basini si fac misto de posesorii care-si cumpara masini noi. wub.gif


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post 5 Feb 2019, 19:05
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Interioru ala imi inspira o senzatie naspa.
Nici drl urile alea sau grila de la radiator nu ma dau pe spate.

E cum.ziceati voi pe pagina aialalta. De departe arata a masina, da cand te.apropii...bleah


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post 5 Feb 2019, 19:06
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Normal. Pai asta vorbeam azi cu un amic. Il rugase seful lui sa ii gaseasca doua-trei masini pe mobile pentru ca are un om intr-o zona din Germania si sa vina ala cu ceva de acolo. Si asta gasea masini care aratau ok, dar aveau, 400-500k km. Si nu ii placea valoarea. Pai alea sunt masini care ajung mereu la noi si se vand cu 180k. Asa le place romanilor, valoarea aia.


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post 5 Feb 2019, 19:11
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QUOTE(zanzie @ 5 Feb 2019, 19:04)
p-orma cocalarii ipocriti se umfla-n pene ca porcu de basini si fac misto de posesorii care-si cumpara masini noi.  wub.gif
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QUOTE(zanzie @ 9 Aug 2010, 08:55)
Eu am cumparat acum 2 luni o Kia Ceed 1.4 benzina din 2007, 11000km
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post 5 Feb 2019, 19:35
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Intelegi prea putin, saracutu de tine. Asa e cand asculti manele in bmwuri istorice sad.gif


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post 5 Feb 2019, 19:43
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Bre zanzie, tu si bmw urile alea istorice sunteti ca vulpea cu strugurii.

Recunosc mi ar place si mie un bmw d ala istoric 320i de prin '85.
Da n am avut ocazia.
Din lipsa de pricepere si timp, prefer sa ma dau cu fiare mai noi.

Am prieten it ist cu mult timp liber, (lucreaza remote, draci stie ce face) si a luat o istorica d asta de la bmw si tare misto e. Atat am avut de zis


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post 5 Feb 2019, 19:48
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QUOTE(axabrt @ 5 Feb 2019, 20:43)
Bre zanzie, tu si bmw urile alea istorice sunteti ca vulpea cu strugurii.


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bre, stii ca ma refeream doar la alea cu primul milion de km facuti. biggrin.gif


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post 5 Feb 2019, 19:55
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QUOTE(AR-18-MOS @ 5 Feb 2019, 19:11)
Păi și eu ce să-ți fac dacă ți-ai luat KIA sh? De catalogat, ți-ai facut-o singur. De căcat, te-ai făcut singur. Eventual pot să-ți urez un "la muncă!", că se întărește mortarul.
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Aia care si-au luat Kia de noua, cu banii jos, cum se catalogheaza? Intreb pentru un prieten...


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post 5 Feb 2019, 21:07
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fraier ca nu si-a luat bembeu de 12 ani ..


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post 5 Feb 2019, 21:13
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QUOTE(b06fcn @ 5 Feb 2019, 19:55)
Aia care si-au luat Kia de noua, cu banii jos, cum se catalogheaza? Intreb pentru un prieten...
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Ai citat greșit, zanzie e cu catalogările pe-aici. Acuma după ce-a terminat cu catalogarea lui, poate are timp și îți răspunde. Dac-a terminat de dat mortarul ăla...
QUOTE(zanzie @ 5 Feb 2019, 19:35)
Intelegi prea putin, saracutu de tine. Asa e cand asculti manele in bmwuri istorice  sad.gif
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post 5 Feb 2019, 21:25
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QUOTE(cj98czh @ 5 Feb 2019, 21:07)
fraier ca nu si-a luat bembeu de 12 ani ..
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Se ezicsta bembeu de 12 ani care sa coste 16000 de euro? Sau se pot lua mai multe de banii aia?


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post 5 Feb 2019, 21:27
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O să las asta aici: https://www.mobile.de/ro/automobil/bmw-m5/v...15000,prx:30000

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post 5 Feb 2019, 21:29
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Poți fi convins. Daca simți nevoia găsești și mai scump. Dar vorbim de mașini care au costat sută de mii de noi și cam au statut de cult-car.


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post 5 Feb 2019, 22:23
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De asta ce ziceti?


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post 5 Feb 2019, 22:32
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post 5 Feb 2019, 22:44
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350.000? daca iei un bmw d.ala cu 10.000 si bagi restul in el sunt convins ca si zboara...


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post 5 Feb 2019, 22:56
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Asta e macsim....sa-l comand? https://www.mobile.de/ro/Automobil/BMW-M5-S.../271837671.html

Ontopic acum, eu intrebam de masini normale, cu costuri de intretinere normale, nu ozn-uri pentru care dai peste o mie de euro impozit pe an...

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post 5 Feb 2019, 23:02
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Cica si Seria3 e considerata ca apartinand segmentului de lux.


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post 5 Feb 2019, 23:17
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Pacat ca le sare distribuția sau iau foc direct. Foc din segmentul de lux nu din saracie. In rest bune, merg pe 4.

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post 5 Feb 2019, 23:44
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Mie de la BMW imi place seria 7 de prin 2001. Greu gasesti una in mintile ei si nețigănită cu tot felul de "tiuning", desi destinatia masinii e alta. Septarul ulterior e ciudat la exterior, mai ales in spate, dar imi place interiorul, mai ales in varianta LWB.

Seria 3 faina e "ursul". Astea actuale sunt la fel de plictisitoare ca un Passat, dar p-ala il alegi in cunostinta de cauza, si nu platesti Casco la fel ca la seria 3.

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QUOTE(b06fcn @ 5 Feb 2019, 22:56)
Ontopic acum, eu intrebam de masini normale, cu costuri de intretinere normale
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Nu, boss, ai intrebat:
QUOTE(b06fcn @ 5 Feb 2019, 21:25)
Se ezicsta bembeu de 12 ani care sa coste 16000 de euro?
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Scurt, și ți s-a arătat că există. Restul de lamentări sunt doar penibile. Dar da, există și din alea, chiar mai scumpe decât plasticul ăla de la KIA deși sunt de 12 ani, după cum ai cerut: https://www.mobile.de/ro/automobil/bmw-seri...7500,mlx:100000
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BMW E38 a fost intr-adevar o limuzina aratoasa.
Mult mai aratoasa decat E65-ul baroc al lui Bangle.
Acu nah, fiecare alege ce vrea din ceea ce poate. Iar despre banii de la parinti, nu prea cred ca sunt multi care si-au luat masina pe la 20 de ani din banii proprii.
BMW a facut masini reusite: E36, E46, E39, E38, E60. Partea proasta e ca au fost utilizate de prea multi "ceafa lata - maiou mulat - tatuaje- manele in boxe". Asta nu inseamna ca masinile sunt proaste.
La fel si Mercedes a fost stricat de mexicanii care se afisau cu ele.
Au scapat marcile gen Volvo, Saab, Lexus.


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Da...io n.am avut bani de masina la 20 ani asa ca mi.am luat oltcit smile.gif


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Si eu am inceput cu Oltcit, dat de ai mei, si cu regret iti spun ca aia nu-i masina; e aparat de zapacit mintile.
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Exemplu despre cum sa faci o masina inutile de complicata.

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QUOTE(marksman @ 5 Feb 2019, 22:44)
Seria 3 faina e "ursul". Astea actuale sunt la fel de plictisitoare ca un Passat, dar p-ala il alegi in cunostinta de cauza, si nu platesti Casco la fel ca la seria 3.
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Apogeul tehnic si estetic eu cred ca l-au atins in era lui E46, E38 si E39.
Mie astea mi se par cele mai reusite modele "moderne". Mai ales daca vorbim de variantele cu FL si varf de gama.
Au mai avut o perioada misto cu E21, E28, E24 si #23.
E30 nu este masina in acceptiunea moderna, abia E36 a fost primul seria 3 "civilizat". Totusi, majoritatea comunitatii uraste de moarte E36.

ursule, motorul despre care vorbesti tu (n47) era la vremea aia un motor nou dezvoltat, care ca orice produs a avut probleme la inceput. Unii chiar spun sa nu cumperi niciodata un produs nou la prima editie. Intreb atat: cat a durat ca reno sa scape de problemele cu pilitura? Problemele electrice la megane 2.1 si Laguna 2.1? Asta in conditiile in care megane 2.1 chiar s-a vandut in draci. Si sunt sigur ca mai sunt si alte exemple, inclusiv de la zeii/greii auto, stim cu totii care, aia care nu au fost cumparati de nimeni, doar contractati sa le arate socialistilor occidentali cum se fac masinile, dar sincer sunt total dezinteresat sa aflu.

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The N47 engine family is prone to excessive timing chain wear and premature failure.[3] Rattling noise from the rear of the engine is indicative of the condition. Timing chain failure may call for engine replacement or a costly repair. The most seriously affected units which require the most extensive repairs were produced from 01.03.2007 to 05.01.2009.[4] However there have been frequent reports of timing chain failure in 1, 3 and 5 series BMW engines manufactured from as early as 2004 until at least 2011 in both the petrol and diesel versions (and hence not just necessarily in the N47 engine). At times the failure has resulted in a dangerous cut out of the engine while the vehicle was being driven - sometimes at relatively high speed. A “Quality Enhancement” was issued by BMW for some, but not all vehicles, but has since been discontinued.


Te tin la curent cand crapa al tatalui meu, ok? Are vreo 160k momentan.
A avut problema asta, in schimb, dar care, zice el, s-a rezolvat relativ ieftin.
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The return spring on the turbo's waste-gate was not originally lubricated or covered, this frequently resulted in early failure causing the waste-gate to remain partially or fully open. With the subsequent loss in compression, fuel consumption increased by 30%-50%. The problem was described by BMW engineers as a "known fault" and was immediately repaired (BMW mobile engineers even carried boxes of an improved spring), however BMW refused to compensate customers for the excessive fuel consumption and denied this fault was their liability.

Asta a fost cam urata, "recunoastem, dar nu e vina noastra".


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Cumnatului meu i-a crapat N47 la 185k ... fara zgomotele specifice facute inainte ... cost reparatie 1200 euro ... in FR ... in RO era cam 1000 ...


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QUOTE(MuciX @ 6 Feb 2019, 11:04)
Apogeul tehnic si estetic eu cred ca l-au atins in era lui E46, E38 si E39.
Mie astea mi se par cele mai reusite modele "moderne". Mai ales daca vorbim de variantele cu FL si varf de gama.
Au mai avut o perioada misto cu E21, E28, E24 si #23.
E30 nu este masina in acceptiunea moderna, abia E36 a fost primul seria 3 "civilizat". Totusi, majoritatea comunitatii uraste de moarte E36.
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E 36 nu-mi "spune" nimic, mi se pare si urat pe deasupra. Dar nu-s chiar fan BMW, imi plac doua-trei masini de la ei si atat.


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