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post 9 Nov 2006, 15:37
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Daca erai mai atent vedeai ca am facut referire la Matiz cand am zis ca are din fabrica strut bar...


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post 9 Nov 2006, 17:19
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klaus: sistemul ala de inchidere/blocare al capotei nu costa mai mult de 10-15 euro, nustiu de ce ar fi mai bun decat sistemul standard de la logan - cred ca sunt facute asa ca sa fie standard la curse, sa nu stea mecanicii sa caute clapeta pe sub capota cand e vreo problema.

talpa aia rosie de langa parbriz zic eu ca este un contactor, probabil intrerupe ceva in cazul in care este capota deschisa.


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talpa aia rosie de langa parbriz zic eu ca este un contactor, probabil intrerupe ceva in cazul in care este capota deschisa.


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post 18 Dec 2006, 19:30
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post 18 Dec 2006, 20:03
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incearca sa cauti pe net la firma care a preparat loganu ala ca ei au pus si bara(oricum fara suspensie sport nu cred ca are vre-o utilitate)

am uitat sa spun cum se cheama firma: wiechers


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post 26 Dec 2006, 20:30
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Acela e sistemul stadard de asigurare a capotei pt masinile de circuit-rally iar la baza parbrizului e comanda pt stingatorul de la compartimentul motor.
Toate acestea fac parte din kit-ul care se va putea achizitiona pt cei interesati de Dacia Joe Cup de la Renault Sport Technologies prin intermediul lui George Grigorescu & Mach1


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post 26 Dec 2006, 20:53
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[quote=dogy_10,18 Dec 2006, 20:03(oricum fara suspensie sport nu cred ca are vre-o utilitate)


Utilitatea barei este aceea de a transforma masina in caruta si de a face sa-ti cada si ultimii dinti din gura ,in cazul in care au mai ramas cativa dupa ce montezi si amortizoare sport..... biggrin.gif


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post 26 Dec 2006, 21:12
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pai asa de rigide sunt amortizoarele sport?
daca montezi doar arcurile e mai bine?


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post 27 Dec 2006, 10:07
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eu zic ca nu e chiar asa bine sa montezi doar arcurile... risti sa plece de pe suport si sa te tii batai si zgomote dupa aia...


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post 27 Dec 2006, 15:10
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nenea dsign am montat eu arcurile si te contrazic wink.gif masina suspendata/puntea in aer, lasata la maxim arucrile nu joaca cu amortizoarele originale wink.gif


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post 27 Dec 2006, 15:24
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QUOTE(klaus @ 8 Nov 2006, 22:44)
Si chestia aia rosie de la parbriz la ce o folosi?
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QUOTE(bassfreak @ 9 Nov 2006, 17:19)
eu ca este un contactor, probabil intrerupe ceva in cazul in care
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post 31 Dec 2006, 13:30
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[quote=dogy_10,26 Dec 2006, 21:12]

daca montezi doar arcurile e mai bine?
Eu am doar arcuri sport iar amortizoarele de pe fata au tijele scurtate cu 35mm si e ok. Urmeaza suspensii reglabile pe inaltime....


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post 30 Jan 2008, 09:53
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se gasesc bare stabilizatoare si pentru fata si pentru spate la Racing Nick. Ceva cam scumpe, iar cea din fata se monteaza peste capacul de la filtrul de aer, cand se schimba filtrul, trebuie demontata bara. Sa nu mai zicem de garantie...


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post 30 Jan 2008, 09:59
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Să fie publicitate , să nu fie ....?
Zi dumneata domnule nico!


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post 30 Jan 2008, 10:51
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QUOTE(bassfreak @ 9 Nov 2006, 18:19)
klaus: sistemul ala de inchidere/blocare al capotei nu costa mai mult de 10-15 euro, nustiu de ce ar fi mai bun decat sistemul standard de la logan - cred ca sunt facute asa ca sa fie standard la curse, sa nu stea mecanicii sa caute clapeta pe sub capota cand e vreo problema.

talpa aia rosie de langa parbriz zic eu ca este un contactor, probabil intrerupe ceva in cazul in care este capota deschisa.
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Sietemul de inchidere a capotei are rolul de o tine inchisa in caz de trosneala usoara in bot pentru a putea termina cursa, e impusa de normele FIA. Inutila si periculoasa (in caz de impact cu pietoni)la o masina de strada.
Chestia aia rosie e un master switch, opreste alimentare cu energie electrica pe toata masina in caz de accident pentru a preveni incendiul. Deasmenea prevazut in normele de siguranta FIA. E actionat manual.


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post 5 Feb 2008, 11:54
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Pentru Lostboy: legat de reclama, cred ca mi-a cam scapat, intentia mea a fost doar de a-si face lumea o idee, si poze, si preturi, etc. Multumim de atentionare si numai bine!


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post 5 Feb 2008, 11:57
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dar nu am văzut nicio poză......de ce?


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post 5 Feb 2008, 16:25
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Pentru ca o sa le pun eu imediat biggrin.gif
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si inca ceva:

"Salut,
intradevar bara de rigidizare blocheaza accesul la filtrul de aer! Dar tinand cont de faptul ca NU se umbla la filtru decat odata in cateva mii de Km. atunci nu este asa de tragic,caci se poate demonta bara din unul din suruburi,stanga sau dreapta...
NOTA : Bara de rigidizare spate este din aluminiu si costa 147 Euro !
Cu stima,"

...asa, ca o simpla parere!


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post 5 Feb 2008, 16:35
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Pe spate chiar nu este nevoie de bara. De o punte mai buna sufera acolo ...

5 Feb 2008, 16:37:
EL. La un impact frontal cum se comporta partea din fata?

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post 30 Apr 2008, 08:06
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Mai depinde si de stilul de condus ....sa-ti dai gauri in clopotele de al amortizoare , sa-ti gauresti capota degeaba ...nu vad rostul.....poate la capota se mai uita curiosii la semafoare si isi imagineaza vreo bestie sub capota. Eu am un stil de condus foarte agresiv si sincer nu mi s-a deformat nimic si nici nu mi-a sarit capota in cap pana acum(72 de mii). Ma tenta' si pe mine sa pun o bara de rigidizare dar decat sa pun una de dragul de a o pune ...mai bine lipsa.Si inca ceva bara nu trebuie sa fie curbata daca chiar o solicitati.....scopul ei e de a mentine o distanta fixa intre clopote.
Am atasat o poza cu o bara care arata a rezistenta

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post 3 May 2008, 23:21
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si crezi ca barile curbate nu au acelasi grad de rezistenta?? sunt curbate pt ca asa e modelul... nu vad unde scrie ca trebuie sa fie neaparat dreapta! smile.gif


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Cred ca ma repet ... dar am si eu o intrebare.
Se simte la stabilitatea in viraje, un strut bar pe Logan cu amortizoare si arcuri stock ... ?


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Scrie mai sus ca NU. smile.gif Down!


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post 22 May 2008, 08:27
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Pt mosu' din Arad: de ceva timp umblu pe roti EvoCorse 17", cu avelope 205/45/17, cu arcuri Eibach -3cm si cu discuri de frina Tarox G88, ventilate.

Ideea e ca masina e foooarte stabila pe viraje, la accelerari si la frinari in comparatie cu un Logan de fabrica. Problema se pune in moentul in care iau un viraj mai fortat si asfaltul in zona e deformat. Stii cum face masina? Zici ca se rupe coloana de directie si zici ca plesnesc toate sudurile de la partea din fata. Trosneste caroseria big time.

Am reusit sa merg cu masina unui prieten ( multam Dane ) echipata similar cu a mea si cu bara rigida Wiechers. E cu totul alta treaba, simti volanul altfel in miini, nu mai exista senzatia de nesiguranta.

Acum, ca o fi bine, ca o fi rau, eu merg sa-mi montez si o sa incerc sa fiu atent sa nu lovesc masina in fata, ca e jale...Mie mi s-a parut utila.


Pe o masina cu anvelope si suspensii de fabrica nu va avea niciodata efect bara de rigidizare

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Pe o masina cu anvelope si suspensii de fabrica nu va avea niciodata efect bara de rigidizare
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Si ca sa si motivez cele spuse cumva, anvelopele originale vor pierde aderenta inainte ca clopotele amortizoarelor sa apuce sa se deplaseze unul fata de celalalt.

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Mi-am facut o bara de rigidizare pt ca cea de la Whiechers mi se pare fff scumpa.Am insa o intrebare, bara mea este facuta in genul celei din poza de mai sus cu Loganul visiniu (post 48) dar am observat ca bara de la Whiechers are altcumva prinderea, in sensul ca se prind 2 flanse pe caroserie si de ele bara in sine.intrebarea mea ar fi: acele suruburi mai au si alt rol inafara de cel de demontare a barei in caz de nevoie sau lasa sa flexeze vertical oala amortizorului?Multumesc

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Cum se poate realiza ieftin si simplu prinderea unei bare de rigidizare intre oalele spate:

Suporti: profil patrat 40x4mm.

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Bara de rigidizare: profil dreptunghiular 30x20x2mm. Se gaureste la capete si se trece un surub de 10mm. Priderea suportilor de oale se face cu suruburi de 8mm.

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