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danS22
post 30 Jun 2006, 15:07
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SAlut ,dupa cum mai spuneam ,am un vw scirocco din '77, un fost gti,trecut pe carburator.In talon e si acum trecut gti 81KW-110cp,dar i sa schimbat chiuloasa ,e montat carburator de golf 2 cu galerie cu tot (bicameral) si are 1600cmc?
oare oare cati caluti am acum si cum as putea sa aflu?
-eu m a gandesc ca aprox 70-75,poate fi mai mult,la liniutza iau loganu 1600!
-ce pareri aveti??


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post 30 Jun 2006, 22:18
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MAi baieti, nu ca as avea ceva cu voi, dar nu aveti ce face? Nu inteleg rostul filmuletului, daca voiai sa ne arati masina o puteai face in cu totul alt mod.

Cat despre intrebarea ta, te duci la un service care face expertiza auto, cred ca asa se numeste.


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post 30 Jun 2006, 22:29
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post 30 Jun 2006, 23:41
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post 1 Jul 2006, 00:22
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post 1 Jul 2006, 14:53
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Damn , daca vrei neaparat sa afli cati cai ai te duci frumuse la dyno , dai 2 milioane si gata .


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post 1 Jul 2006, 17:23
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de ci no sa aflu nici odata blush.gif


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post 1 Jul 2006, 20:12
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Poti face si dupa alte metode, dar are marja mare de eroare.

De exemplu daca ai un vitezometru exact, poti face in felul asta, cutia conteaza mai putin, viteza maxima e data de puterea motorului.

Daca nu poate mai mult de 150 km/h ai cam 60 de cai, la 75 de cai se opreste cam la 180 km/h, si daca ajunge la 200 ai peste 100 de cai. Valorile astea sunt cam aproximative, dar iti poti face o parere. Neaparat viteza trebuie sa fie reala, ca vitezometrele au marja programata de eroare din fabrica.

Nu te lua dupa liniute, cum ai zis in primul post, ca acolo depinde mult de cutie, asa cum e a ta e mai buna si in special mai sportiva decat aia de Logan, asa ca numai dupa viteza maxima te poti lua.

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post 1 Jul 2006, 21:40
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te pui paralel cu o masina cu vitezometru ok si accelerezi pana nu mai poate masina . Daca ai trecut de viteza maxima din talon , ai peste 110 cai .

Daca prinzi 150 , ai ~ 58 de cai . biggrin.gif:D:D


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post 1 Jul 2006, 23:35
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am prins ieri 150,dar imi huruie rau un rulment si nu am avut curaj sai dau mai mult,fostul proprietar mi a spus ca a prins cu ea 180(era tot pe carburator)
dupa ce am sa i fac bucseraiu si franele am sa i dau odata si eu de proba


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post 4 Jul 2006, 10:40
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Nu te sfatuiesc sa faci testele astea, oricum nu au nici un fel de relevanta, nu ai cum sa iti dai seama de putere, eventual doar o aproximare grosolana, cu marje mare de eroare. Poti aproxima puterea si testand in conditii normale alte 2-3 masini si facand comparate cu a ta.
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post 4 Jul 2006, 20:24
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E o prostie aproximarea cailor-putere in functie de viteza maxima! De coeficientul aerodinamic ati auzit?

Exemplu:
Dacia berlina - 62CP - vit. max. constructiva 142km/h
Daewoo Matiz - 48 CP(E3) - vit. max. constructiva 144km/h

La fel si aproximarea in functie de "liniute". Variaza multe lucruri - cutie, greutatea masinii, experienta soferului ..etc


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post 4 Jul 2006, 21:51
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Nu ai inteles ce am zis eu .

Ia un pui de somn si mai gandeste-te !


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post 4 Jul 2006, 22:09
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ma m orientat dupa motoarele de generatie '75-'80 cu capaciate clilindrica de 1600,(golf,passat,jetta,polo,scirocco..pe carburator) au intre 69-85CP,eu totusi nu i dau mai mult de 70-75cp..


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post 4 Jul 2006, 22:11
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Btw, te poti duce la CompuTest2000 din Vitan, unde te costa 1.2mil testarea motorului, ceea ce include si testarea magarilor-putere din cate stiu eu icon_mrgreen.gif

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post 4 Jul 2006, 22:16
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CarbuTest ?


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post 5 Jul 2006, 13:28
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QUOTE(SiloS @ 4 Jul 2006, 23:16)
CarbuTest ?
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poftim ? blink.gif
http://www.autotest2000.ro/


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post 5 Jul 2006, 13:49
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Mai e o metoda, care consta in cronometrarea reprizei de la nu stiu cat la nu stiu cat si apoi cronometrarea timpului in care viteza scade de la nu stiu cat la nu stiu cat in frana de motor.
Din pacate nu mai gasesc acum exact ce trebuie facut.
Mai caut si revin.


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post 5 Jul 2006, 23:08
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Mi am mai luat una tongue.gif din '79, 1600cmc 110Cp Gli, am lu ato de la un batranel dupa indelungi negocieri ,am dat pe ea 1500 euro , (e pe injectie) are 207000 km reali ,am fost si la mecanic cu ea ,si mecanicul a ramas mirat de ea cum arata si functioneaza Sunt doar 3 bucati de scirocco (model 4 faruri) in oras un Gt ,un fost gti si un gli ,eu detin 2 (gti,gli) cool.gif am sa pun si poze cu ele cat de curand


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Pune si filme, poate reusim sa ne dam seama dupa demaraj cati CP are


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