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AlexV
post 25 Feb 2003, 00:30
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joi dupa intalnire am mai stat cu razvan de vorba vreo ora. intamplator am lasat amandoi motoarele pornite. am remarcat ca la a mea a pornit electroventilatorul de cateva ori si la a lui niciodata.
la voi cum este??? porneste sau nu la statul pe loc???


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post 25 Feb 2003, 07:56
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porneste, dar iarna asta nu mi s-a intamplat


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post 25 Feb 2003, 08:00
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Mie mi s-a intamplat sa porneasca dupa ce am oprit motorul, dupa ce facusem manevre printr-o parcare inghesuita. Dar de pornit cu masina stand pe loc, nu s-a intamplat. Depinde si de temperatura de afara; sa vedem la vara cum se comporta


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post 25 Feb 2003, 09:15
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Porneste la toate daca nu e nimic stricat (de obicei, mi-au zis cei de la service ca se arde o siguranta). Chiar daca sta pe loc, in maxim 15 min. porneste si este si normal pentru ca atunci cand masina nu merge nu exista curenti de aer care sa raceasca apa din radiator. Din cate stiu eu, cu cat e mai cald motorul cu atat consuma mai putin. Deci eu zic ca ar fi un lucru bun daca ati vedea acul mereu cocotzat langa prima liniutza, dar nu mai mult!


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post 25 Feb 2003, 12:34
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ca nu se stica nimic stiu. masina stand pe loc nu produce foarte multa caldura si deci nu prea se incalzeste. pana cand am vazut masina cealata nu am dat mare importanta, mai ales ca la schimbarea radiatorului se lasa masina la ralanti pana porneste ventilatorul. E aici e buba, de ce la aia nu porneste, cum aerisesc ei instalatia daca nu pleaca ventilatorul.
si mie mi s-a intamplat sa porneasca dupa cateva minute, dar la inceput cand am luat-o, ca m-am obisnuit sa ma uit la ac si daca am si fortat masina sa o mai las un pic sa mearga pana porneste ventilatorul ca sa mearga si pompa, sa nu se chinuie boul singur.


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post 25 Feb 2003, 14:42
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Mie imi porneste daca stau pe loc ceva mai mult si motorul e pornit.


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post 25 Feb 2003, 15:02
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exact. de asta intrebam eu, la cati porneste cand stau pe loc cu motorul pornit!!!


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post 25 Feb 2003, 15:43
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La mine nu porneste, nici daca o las la relanti, nici daca merg incet in oras. Cel putin nu mi-a mai pornit ventilatorul de cateva luni de zile... Pe cancerul asta il inteleg. :-)


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post 25 Feb 2003, 19:06
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pai hai sa facem joi un test ... lasam motoarele pornite si vom vedea rezultatele .. ce ziceti ?


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post 25 Feb 2003, 19:10
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perfect, chiulesc de la fac si vin.


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post 25 Feb 2003, 19:13
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la mine a pornit si dupa ce l-am oprit !!!
btw i-am bagat benzina "ultra scumpa" de vreo 26690lei/l


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post 26 Feb 2003, 08:13
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Ba eu cred ca se strica. Daca ajunge acul ala peste liniutza si nu porneste ventilatorul, sigur se strica ceva si in mod sigur ceva este deja stricat (termocupla, siguranta, ventilator sau cine stie ce).


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post 26 Feb 2003, 17:23
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teoretic daca creste temperatura peste o anumita valoare, se arde garnitura de chiuloasa. dar tot teoretic astia zic ca mai are o protectie si se arde o siguranta si moare motorul.
Dar problema nu e daca trece sau nu de liniuta, ci daca creste temperatura pana la pornire. La mine creste si porneste normal, iar la cealalta masina sta orizontal tot timpul. de ce???


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post 26 Feb 2003, 22:52
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eu am stat cred ca 15 min cu motorul pornit special sa vad daca mi-au pus firele de la ventilator cum trebui si a pornit ventilatorul


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post 27 Feb 2003, 07:52
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Poate masina cealalta era parcata in alta pozitie si-i batea vantul din fata :!: :?: sau cine stie ce cooler o fi montat proprietarul pe-acolo si noua nu vrea sa ne spuna 173.gif


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post 27 Feb 2003, 07:55
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Aceeasi "problema"am crezut ca am si eu cand am cumparat masina. Imi pornea ventilatorul cand mergeam intr-o treapta inferioara de viteza, la relanti pe loc si dupa ce opream motorul. Am fost la service, au bagat masina pe calculator si am constatat ca atunci cand lichidul de racire atinge 100*C porneste electroventilatorul si se opreste la temperatura de 92*C. Asta e un lucru normal avand in vedere ca este un motor transversal care nu are ventilator cuplat cu arborele cotit ca la daciile normale. Asa ca nu-ti mai fa griji pt. ca e normal !


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post 27 Feb 2003, 08:27
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eu am stat cred ca 15 min cu motorul pornit special sa vad daca mi-au pus firele de la ventilator cum trebui si a pornit ventilatorul

O sa stau si eu sa vad; adevarul e ca nu cred ca am lasat-o vreodata pe loc, pornita mai mult de 5-10 minute


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post 27 Feb 2003, 16:26
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oameni buni, nu este o problema. este doar o intrebare si un studiu. masina este la fel de veche ca a mea, dar are ventilator de clima si nu e clima. radiatorul este prins in model nou ca l-a schimbat. repet nu este la nimeni nici o problema atata timp cat porneste daca temperatura creste.


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post 28 Feb 2003, 00:22
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eu am stat cred ca 15 min cu motorul pornit special sa vad daca mi-au pus firele de la ventilator cum trebui si a pornit ventilatorul

O sa stau si eu sa vad; adevarul e ca nu cred ca am lasat-o vreodata pe loc, pornita mai mult de 5-10 minute
pai tu trebui sa ai gmv mic ca la mine


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post 28 Feb 2003, 08:31
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Ar trebui sa vad unul mare prima data ca sa stiu cum e ala mic :wink:


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post 28 Feb 2003, 09:42
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ala mic are latimea palelor de vreo 2 cm!!! ala mare arata a ventilator !!!


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la mine sta mereu mai sus de jumate si are tendinta mereu sa urce!Ma gandesc daca si pe frigul asta imi fcae asa atunci la vara ce o sa faca?


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post 28 Feb 2003, 10:01
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ideea este ca ea poate sa urca pana la 100 grade si pana in 100 de grade , nu stiu exact unde trebuie sa deschida termostatul si apoi o sa coboare linistita , temperatura la apa . ai putea sa o lasi pe loc si sa o tii turata la vreo 5000 de ture un pic sa vezi ca o sa-ti creasca temperatura destul de repede, apoi cand ajunge la liniuta de sus o sa inceapa sa coboare frumusel. daca nu trece de liniuta de sus nu e nici o problema , asa ca stai linistit. sa te ingrijorezi daca trece de liniuta de sus !!!


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post 28 Feb 2003, 10:08
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ala mic are latimea palelor de vreo 2 cm!!! ala mare arata a ventilator !!!

si difera si modul de prindere sau doar elicea ?


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post 28 Feb 2003, 10:10
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nu stiu... banuiesc ca nu, deoarece nu ar fi rentabil sa elaboreze doua moduri pe prindere !!! ce , vrei sa gandeasca. deci nu prea cred! iar ceea ce difera este latimea palelor!!! o sa facem niste poze, sa le postam, ceva voluntari?


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post 28 Feb 2003, 10:18
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Astept sa vad pozele, acuma sunt curios 8) . Sa inteleg ca la Clima e ala mare si la restul sunt mici, sau ca depinde de perioada de fabricatie ?


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post 28 Feb 2003, 10:19
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nu trebuie sa porneasca ventilatorul, doar vara. intradevar sunt doua trepte de pornire (la clima) dar prima pornire se face la peste 80 grade. asa ca acesta temperatura se atinge greu iarna. daca nu porneste vara mergeti la service si va schimba o piesa undeva jos in dreapta (e ca o serpentina mica)


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post 28 Feb 2003, 10:58
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ventilatorul trebuie sa porneasca cand e nevoie.
cele doua ventilatoare difera total. nu numai motorul si paletele, dar si modul de prindere si carcasa. asta mare are o carcasa care ii permite sa traga aer numai din radiator. nu doar sa sufle.


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post 1 Mar 2003, 00:47
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Ar trebui sa vad unul mare prima data ca sa stiu cum e ala mic  :wink:
ala mare e pa clima


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post 1 Mar 2003, 23:28
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Poate si pe confort sau rapsodie pt ca nu au avut "modelul mic" la un anumit moment.


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