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vadim_braia
post 21 Apr 2008, 18:47
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Doua observatii dupa ceva vreme de la montare:
1. Cateodata CC-ul "sare". Zic "sare" pentru ca senzatia este aceeasi ca si cand ar iesi din viteza.
2. CC-ul se decupleaza la actionearea ambreiajului. Inca nu am verificat daca eu sunt norocosul posesor de logan cu contactor la ambreiaj sau UCE "vede" prin alte mijloace decuplarea ambreiajului.

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post 5 May 2008, 08:33
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Si la mine se decupla cand apasam ambreiajul. UCE compara turatia cu viteza, si daca acestea nu se mai afla intr-un anumit raport, decupleaza cc-ul.


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post 30 Jun 2008, 12:17
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Se pare ca problema se cam "agraveaza". In weekend-ul asta pe minunata noastra autostrada A2 a sarit de trei ori...plus ca apoi la apasarea butonului R nu mai ajunge la aceeasi viteza. Exemplu: A decuplat la 100 km/h si la apasarea imediata a butonului R a scazut viteza pana undeva la 80 km/h.
A mai studiat careva problema CC-ului? Stiu ca cineva, nu dau nume smile.gif , analiza problema.


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post 1 Jul 2008, 07:23
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Salut . Daca va uitati in urma putin o sa vedeti ca am montat un cc pe Logan 1,6 MPI si merge f.bine . Toate functiile dinamice se programeaza dar cred ca are o masura de protectie care nu am cum sa o elimin si anume: la 160 km/h se decupleaza singur dupa un timp . De aceea cred ca si functia descoperita de cc la calculatorul Lg.1,5dci este activa dar trbuie programati parametri dinamici .La mine desi montasem totul corect pina nu i-am facut programarea cf. doc. era mort .
In curind voi trece la club Toyota ,vind Loganul asa ca va spun La revedere ! Imi ajung 20ani de Dacii . P.S. Daca vrea cineva Lg.meu sa sune la 0744 528 968 .


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post 28 Jul 2008, 19:26
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Buna seara!. Avind in vedere ca dupa aproximativ 2 ore de cautari prin topicuri nu am gasit o schema electrica de logan diesel de 70 caluti, v-as ruga respectuos daca ma puteti ajuta cu asa ceva. Ptr. cei interesati doresc sa-mi construiesc un cruiser control.
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post 29 Jul 2008, 11:56
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citeste acest topic si nu mai posta aiurea in alte topicuri... si inca ceva: se numeste "CRUISE control"


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post 29 Jul 2008, 16:01
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QUOTE(Ursaru @ 1 Jul 2008, 08:23)
De aceea cred ca si functia descoperita de cc la calculatorul Lg.1,5dci este activa dar trbuie programati parametri dinamici
Nu este nevoie de invatare la Logan, ci de programare din "fabrica".

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post 29 Jul 2008, 23:10
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Astazi mi-am montat si eu cruise controlul si am avut surpriza sa nu mearga. Am respectat schema electrica, am verificat legaturile dar nu merge. Singura chestie pe care nu am facut-o a fost ca nu am pus nimic la pinul C4. Sugestii?


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post 30 Jul 2008, 09:08
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Ai montat absolut toate butoanele sau doar "fire" de proba?
Si intr-un caz si in altul incearca sa apesi butonul "zero" sau sa faci scurtcircuit intre cele doua fire (D2-D3) ceva mai lung. Apoi incearca daca functioneaza, apasand "plus" sau "minus".

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post 30 Jul 2008, 10:52
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Am montat toate butoanele. Am sa incerc azi sa fac cum ai spus tu. Switchul in ce pozitie trebuie sa-l pun? Cruise control nu?


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post 30 Jul 2008, 12:35
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post 23 Jan 2009, 12:38
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Pana la urma a rezolvat cineva sa mearga bine CC si nu in suturi? Si dupa 100 km/h?


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post 23 Jan 2009, 14:02
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A facut/montat cineva un kit cruise control pt. Logan 1,4 Mpi?


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post 25 Jan 2009, 13:51
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Din cate stiu eu merge pus doar pe Loganurile cu motorina.


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post 26 Jan 2009, 11:59
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QUOTE(nelu44 @ 23 Jan 2009, 14:02)
A facut/montat cineva un kit cruise control pt. Logan 1,4 Mpi?
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Tu ai citit acest topic pe care ai pus intrebarea? Intreb si eu...


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post 26 Jan 2009, 20:29
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QUOTE(adiya @ 30 Jun 2008, 12:17)
Se pare ca problema se cam "agraveaza". In weekend-ul asta pe minunata noastra autostrada A2 a sarit de trei ori...plus ca apoi la apasarea butonului R nu mai ajunge la aceeasi viteza. Exemplu: A decuplat la 100 km/h si la apasarea imediata a butonului R a scazut viteza pana undeva la 80 km/h.
A mai studiat careva problema CC-ului? Stiu ca cineva, nu dau nume smile.gif , analiza problema.
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banuiesc ca ai folosit schema aia banala cu cateva rezistente.
Poti sa incerci:
1. cuplarea montajului pe care l-ai facut cu UCE-ul sa-l faci cu cablu ecranat.
2. condensatori de decuplare montati cat mai aproape de UCE. (100nF)
3. prinderea ecranului, in cazul cand folosesti cablu ecranat, se face intr-un singur punct la masa (sasiu) adica ori inspre UCE, ori inspre montaj, nu in ambele parti deoarece poate aparea capacitatea cablului.

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post 17 Apr 2009, 12:06
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Hi,
Sorry to speak english here.

What news about the possibility to modify the factory cruise control settings ?

I've the problem of pumping effect above 100 km/h sad.gif

Thanks for your help


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post 17 Apr 2009, 13:22
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I think that the factory cruise control settings cannot be modified .


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post 17 Apr 2009, 16:06
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QUOTE(OldMan @ 26 Jan 2009, 20:29)
banuiesc ca ai folosit schema aia banala cu cateva rezistente.
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Mai exista si alta schema mai putin banala?
Deocamdata nu mai "figureaza" asa ca nu am motive sa umblu la instalatie. Multumesc pentru sfaturi.


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QUOTE(vadim_braia @ 17 Apr 2009, 14:22)
I think that the factory cruise control settings cannot be modified .
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It's a pity mellow.gif

The average speed seems to be stable, but not quiet because of pulses of the acceleration.
Do you know the cause of this pumping effect of my cruise control only above 100km/h ?
What is the solution ?
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post 17 Apr 2009, 22:11
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Intrebare: Fila aia nu poate fi populata? Copiata de la un dci caruia CC-ul ii functioneaza corect (ex: Megane)?


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Salut sunt si eu interesat de un tempomat,dar am inteles ca sunt niste (intreruperi)pe la o viteza mai mare de 90km/h

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Pana la urma a rezolvat cineva sa mearga bine CC si nu in suturi? Si dupa 100 km/h?

Dupa 100 km/h ce e nou??
Multumesc anticipat !

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A incercat cineva un sistem simplu, pentru moatoarele cu acceleratia pe cablu?

Adica un electromagnet care sa functioneze la apasarea unui singur buton si sa fie decuplat ori din acelasi buton, "inginerie" la pedala de acceleratie sau din contactul stopurilor de frana. Acel electrromagnet sa aiba capacitatea de a retine cablul de acceleratie intr-o pozitie fixa.

Sau: un motor pas cu pas si un "melc" setabil din 2 butoane, cu posibilitatea de decelarare si accelerare sau cu capacitatea de a mentine viteza in conditii de relief variabil sau vant din fata (probabil prin compararea vitezei din bord, care la Logan e un semnal electronic)

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Daca citeai fix acest topic pe care ai postat aveai raspunsul la intrebare...


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Hi,
Thanks for your answers, but I'm sorry, my problem was with the existing cruise control of the ECU, and no with any added motor to the throttle.

Now my problem is solved with adding an little electronic card at the ECU.
You can see the resulting measure of cruise control at 130km/h
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QUOTE(TAM @ 26 Apr 2009, 20:50)
Now my problem is solved with adding an little electronic card at the ECU.
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Would you tell us more about this electronic card? What is it, what is it doing.... ?


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QUOTE(TAM @ 26 Apr 2009, 20:50)
Hi,
Thanks for your answers, but I'm sorry, my problem was with the existing cruise control of the ECU, and no with any added motor to the throttle.

Now my problem is solved with adding an little electronic card at the ECU.
You can see the resulting measure of cruise control at 130km/h

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Please tell us also the data sampling rate of the aquisition card and software.


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Salut.

Si-a instalat cineva cruise control pe logan 1.5dci 85cp fabricatie dupa octombrie 2007?

Sunt probleme?

E cineva din Galati cu care m-as putea intalni pentru schimb de opinii pe aceasta tema?

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