Romania in EU, EU Common Market
Romania in EU, EU Common Market
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2 Nov 2006, 12:23
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Boris |
2 Nov 2006, 15:14
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Croatian member Group: Members Posts: 497 Joined: 20 October 04 From: Zagreb, Croatia |
QUOTE(vv @ 1 Nov 2006, 14:47) Black humour... I am in the mood today, after our politicians voted UNANIMOUSLY to stop the creation of an agency that was designed to control how public clerks/ officials made their fortune. It's even funny to hear their arguments for the vote... maybe we should translate some. If you find the time please translate, politicians are often very amusing. It's better to laught at them than get an ulcer. |
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Dacia
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2005 + LPG Landi Renzo sequent Reliability of machines is inversely proportional to the number and importance of people watching it
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My Berlina |
4 Nov 2006, 18:53
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Membru American Group: Members Posts: 509 Joined: 29 November 04 From: Romania/United States |
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4 Nov 2006, 19:11
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Membru autentic Group: Members Posts: 465 Joined: 8 November 05 From: Bucuresti |
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vv |
6 Nov 2006, 15:16
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dilbert.com Group: Members Posts: 1.080 Joined: 10 June 04 From: Bucuresti |
First, some context:
The ministry of justice proposed an agency (ANI - national agency of integrity) that was supposed to control the officals' fortune statements and forbid them to occupy any governmental job or to run in any election if they could not justify large parts of their income. Instead the deputies changed the meaning of the agency so that it could only read the statements and notify the prosecutors of possible law infringements (anybody could do this anyway - the problem is that it is of course extremely difficult to PROVE beyond any reasonable doubt that the fortune is illicit; instead, the initial purpose of the agency was to ask the officials to prove that their fortune is 100% legal; if they could not do that, it did not lead to imprisonment or confiscated fortune or anything (that was still the prosecutor's job), but it did prevent them from running for office again). After much debate, they changed the initial law such that now it only creates an useless agency that does nothing; the "funny" part is that if they continued the debate a few more days only, the initial form proposed by the ministry of justice would have effectively become a LAW (so in effect continuing the debate would have enabled the law - there was really absolutely no reason to vote for the law if you were against it, just to have a "starting point" as some politicians tried to suggest): "With a doubtful heart and heavy souls, liberals voted this project. We consider that the Senate is the decisional chamber , and this is a first effort to convince the romanian society and romanian political class that we need a strong agency" "We gave this vote to give a political signal to Brussels (note: Brussels criticized openly the attempt to modify the initial form of the law) that there is political will for this project imposed by the European Comission. We hope that the Senate will go back to the initial form proposed by the government. We will discuss and negociate within the coalition and we hope that the negociations will work in the Senate " (in fact there is a weaker coalition majority in the senate, and as I already explained - it was stupid to vote for the law if you were against it). "Because of the law's organic character, we risked that it was not adopted. So we decided to vote alongside with those who butchered it and to give it another chance in the senate. We hope that after negotiations in the coalition and pressure from the civil society, something will change " "I am not in the party's governing structures and I don't know why we voted for the project. It was decided inside the party and I voted accordingly" The opposition's comments were absolutely marvelous (the opposition theoretically made those changes, but the governing coalition contributed heavily - after all, it was unanimity at the vote): "I want to salute this vote given in the deputy chamber as a great victory. we don't need any law to be upright . From Jan 1st we will be Europeans - so this ANI law is a big joke (gotta love the argument...) and was only desired by mrs. Monica Macovei (the ministry of justice... but apparently he is right here )" This post has been edited by vv: 6 Nov 2006, 15:21 |
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Boris |
7 Nov 2006, 07:45
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Croatian member Group: Members Posts: 497 Joined: 20 October 04 From: Zagreb, Croatia |
Don't wory vv we are not falling behind, we have a agency like that and the only thing it does is reading it's opinion in front of the Parlament (offcourse it's made of Parlament members).
Offcourse there's no mandatory action after they conclude what ever they conclude, and the officials statement's about what they own are more than doubiuos. There was even a debate about should they list money as property or not, there was an opinion that money is not property and should not have to be listed. I love them all |
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Logan Laureate 1.6
2005 + LPG Landi Renzo sequent Reliability of machines is inversely proportional to the number and importance of people watching it
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