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djvibecmc
post 3 Sep 2005, 23:13
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Megane Sport costa : 29 850,00 EUR

motor 2.0 225CP

0 - 100 km/h (s) 6,5

Consum mediu ( producator ) : 8.8


Super masina parerea mea. Paca ca nu am bani pentru ea.


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post 4 Sep 2005, 10:29
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1. Motor de motor = 3000 euro - 6-700 euro cat ar fi asta existent
2. Suspensii ... etc. = 1000 euro - 2-300 euro cat ar costa astea montate de serie

Motorul probabil este de 1999 cm alimentat cu turbocompresor [probabil de aici vine numele de s2000] si daca bine stiu in raliu regulamentul vorbeste de motor de pana la 2000cm. + o cutie noua depaseste cu mult 1000 euro sigur [la cat costa un turbocompresor, stiti despre ce vorbesc]
Suspensia te costa mult mai mult, numai la gentile de Al te ar costa peste 500 euro diferenta fata de gentile cu care sunt echipate loganurie in serie acum, astea mai mult ca sigur sunt de cel putin de 17", si aici vorbim numai de genti, mai este frana, unde daca calculezi discurile de frana ventilata [cel putin pe fata] si trebuie sa pui discuri si pe spate, cu amortizoare sport depasesti cu mult 1000 euro!
Daca o sa existe versiune de strada [neaparat daca vrea sa intre in WRC] o sa fie scump cel putin fata de loganul de serie. Abia astept sa apara, dar probabil nu o sa am niciodata banii pt o astfel de masina sad.gif


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post 4 Sep 2005, 11:34
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post 4 Sep 2005, 22:07
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Am vazut cum se misca masina la TV. E super . Bravo Dacia-Renault !


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post 5 Sep 2005, 13:29
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Daca pui in motor aspirat la raliu, te...pe el. Se zice supr aalimentat, adica turbo ! este cu totul altceva.


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post 5 Sep 2005, 13:34
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Eu nu inteleg ce este asa impresionant un motor de 2 L cu 200 CP>
Ia uitati-va aizi conceptie 1995 !


Engine code B4204T5
Engine type Otto, Front transversal
Number of cylinders 4, In-line
Engine capacity 1948 cm3
Number of valves 16 DOHC
Fuel Petrol, Injection by cylinder
Supercharging Turbo + Intercooler
Bore 83 mm
Stroke 90 mm
Compression ratio 8,5
Max Power 147 kW (ECE) 5250 rpm
Max torque 300 Nm (rpm) 2500 rpm

Asa ca sa nu mai exageram. Suntem la > 10 ani si nici pana acum nu exista un motor de sub 2 L care sa aiba puterea asta pe o masina de serie.


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post 5 Sep 2005, 13:48
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QUOTE(croc1977 @ 5 Sep 2005, 13:34)
Eu nu inteleg ce este asa impresionant un motor de 2 L cu 200 CP>
Ia uitati-va aizi  conceptie 1995 !
Engine code B4204T5 
Engine type Otto, Front transversal
Number of cylinders 4, In-line
Engine capacity 1948 cm3
Number of valves 16 DOHC
Fuel Petrol, Injection by cylinder
Supercharging Turbo + Intercooler 
Bore 83 mm
Stroke 90 mm
Compression ratio 8,5 
Max Power 147 kW (ECE) 5250 rpm
Max torque 300 Nm (rpm) 2500 rpm

Asa ca sa nu mai exageram. Suntem la > 10 ani si nici pana acum nu exista un motor de sub 2 L care sa aiba puterea asta pe o masina de serie.
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Inainte sa vorbesti, citeste ce s-a mai scris. S2000 inseamna 4x4 mecanic, motoare de 2000 FARA turbo, dimensiunea gurii de admisie 64mm, limitare de turatie la 8500 rpm si greutate minima 1150kg.

Iar modelul de Logan in cauza are intre 260-280 CP.



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post 5 Sep 2005, 20:43
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waw cata putere ....


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post 5 Sep 2005, 22:50
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O herghelie intreaga...


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post 6 Sep 2005, 08:26
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ca de obicei se practica bagatul in seama ca sport national. fratilor, nu vedeti ca scrie clar negru pe alb, ca motorul este fara turbo. Afirmatia " e turbo ca vine de la s2000" m-a dat pe spate...sincer...poate se gaseste un moderator sa mai stearga din ineptiile de pe topicul asta.


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post 6 Sep 2005, 14:19
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QUOTE(Codrin @ 2 Sep 2005, 17:32)
Fabia RS e 14.239 euro. Un Logan echivalent RS pana in 14.000 e acceptabil, macar pentru imaginea de firma
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Fabia RS (130cp 1.9TDI) este 17.344 EURO...cu toate taxele.
Renault Clio Sport (182cp 2.0,16V) 19.236 EURO.

Loganul nu are cum sa fie sub 15.000...decat daca va avea un 2.0 de 136cp biggrin.gif
Cu un motor in jur de 200cp cred ca sare de 25.000 Euro. Oricum nu cred ca va mai avea aproape nimic comun cu Logan-ul normal...



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post 6 Sep 2005, 15:27
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nu vedeti ca scrie clar negru pe alb, ca motorul este fara turbo. Afirmatia " e turbo ca vine de la s2000" m-a dat pe spate

Noi deja visam la Logan WRC wink.gif


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post 7 Sep 2005, 10:08
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Nu, acum pe bune, intrebarea este daca trebuie sa aiba acelasi motor ca la curse, sau unul cu putere mai mica?

Ca nu cred ca Renault ar pune in vecii-vecilor un motor cu mai mult de 150 de cai pe Dacia, fie ea si RS. In schimb sunt absolut convins ca ii vor conferi destui cai incat sa fie mai fasneata decat Fabia... tongue.gif


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post 7 Sep 2005, 10:10
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Nu trebuie sa aiba acelasi motor ca la curse.

Fabia RS are dieselul de pe Passat de 1,9L si 130 cai, care nu e si motorul lor in curse. Nu?


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post 10 Sep 2005, 14:20
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accesati http://www.antena1.ro/auto/a/auto_dacia_s2...m........dacaia in noua grupa s 2000 biggrin.gif tongue.gif

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post 10 Sep 2005, 14:23
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Se pare ca ti-a scapat http://www.daciaclub.ro/index.php?showtopic=25035&hl=
Incearca sa folosesti functia de cautare wink.gif


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post 10 Sep 2005, 16:19
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am vazut deja si filmulet cu loganul, cata acolo unde zice ovidiusoft...


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post 11 Sep 2005, 23:11
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@ croc1977: ia uita-te tu la honda s2000...
motor 1997 cc - 240 cp fara turbo


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post 11 Sep 2005, 23:50
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si cat consuma aia...si cate ture ii tre' pt puterea aia...
honda are daca nu ma insel cele mai "turabile" motoare....la F1 ajung si la 18.000ture...


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post 12 Sep 2005, 01:57
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consuma mult mai putin decat te astepti (sau poate decat ma asteptam eu) 13.7 urban si 8.0 extraurban iar turatia doar 8.300 rpm.
La momentul actual are cea mai mare putere litrica (dintre masinile de serie)
Vezi aici pentru mai multe detalii: http://www.honda.com.ro/s2000/fisatehnica/

Cat despre formula 1... cam toate motoarele ajung la 18.000 rpm

... si scuze pt offtopic

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post 12 Sep 2005, 08:34
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Cred ca ar trebui inchis acest topic.


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OT: cineva din forumul nemtesc a luat ca avatar poza modificata de mine, cu bordul... huh.gif suntem celebri...in jermanica smile.gif


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QUOTE(Loghy @ 12 Sep 2005, 02:57)
La momentul actual are cea mai mare putere litrica (dintre masinile de serie)
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Cine a zis ca S2000 va intra in productia de serie?


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post 24 Sep 2005, 09:16
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Pentru a pute fi inscrisa in competitii trebuie produsa in serie de cel putin 2000 (?) de exemplare. Vezi Fabia RS


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post 24 Sep 2005, 09:29
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inca nu sunt clare reglementarile...regulamentul s2000 inca mai este in lucru...


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