Carlos Ghosn, arestat luni la Tokyo, Frauda sau complot?
Carlos Ghosn, arestat luni la Tokyo, Frauda sau complot?
IRONICK |
18 Jan 2019, 17:04
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bion |
18 Jan 2019, 19:35
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VW ala . Te referi la vw, audi, seat, skode etc.?
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wolfin |
19 Jan 2019, 12:01
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n-am gasit cu dacia Group: Members Posts: 7.910 Joined: 2 December 05 From: Bucuresti |
Ok...atunci ramane coyota ...cu lexus
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- Curand de provincie Scuze Mucix, am gasit altul"În fata unei boli esti precaut sau prost", o stai ..Bici zice ca o gasit a buna...mis un cane rau dar cu suflet mare
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papa_mulo |
19 Jan 2019, 12:52
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Mie mi se pare ca toti cei 3 producatori au avut putza cam la fel de mare in ultimii doi ani...intre 10,2 si 10,8 e cam tot aia, doar chestie de cum pui rigla...
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einstein1984 |
22 Jan 2019, 11:45
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cam ce a facut Ghosn la nissan si renault, in afara d emasini plictisitoare. |
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IRONICK |
22 Jan 2019, 12:41
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einstein1984 |
22 Jan 2019, 12:48
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acrii struguri ai?
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daca nu ai o toyota
4X4,ai gresit
masina
- negru pe alb "Popa Nan e-o stradă-nspre Hala Traian
De la Foișor până-n Piața Vitan" |
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IRONICK |
22 Jan 2019, 12:55
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Imi pare rau de tine daca gandesti asa. Glumesc, nu.
Eliberarea lui Carlos Ghosn, respinsă din nou de japonezi: probabilitate ridicată ca fostul șef Nissan să rămână în detenție până la proces QUOTE Autoritățile japoneze au respins din nou cererea lui Carlos Ghosn de eliberare pe cauțiune, după ce acesta se oferise să poarte un dispozitiv de urmărire permanentă și să nu plece din Tokyo. Este foarte probabil ca fostul șef Nissan să rămână în arest până la procesul său. O nouă încercare și o nouă nereușită pentru Carlos Ghosn în tentativa de a scăpa de arest prin plata unei cauțiuni. Acesta n-a reușit să-i înduplece pe japonezi după ce s-a oferit să fie urmărit în permanență printr-un dispozitiv electronic purtat la gleznă și să nu părăsească orașul. Cererea sa a fost respinsă încă o dată de autoritățile japoneze, astfel că, foarte probabil, fostul șef Nissan va rămâne în arest până la începerea procesului său. Carlos Ghosn, președintele și CEO-ul Alianței Renault - Nissan - Mitsubishi, a fost arestat anul trecut pe 19 noiembrie în Japonia pentru că a raportat venituri mai mici decât în realitate în documentele oficiale Nissan și pentru că a utilizat banii constructorului în interes personal. This post has been edited by IRONICK: 22 Jan 2019, 14:07 |
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einstein1984 |
22 Jan 2019, 14:29
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fan Dacia Group: Members Posts: 19.920 Joined: 12 November 05 From: Bucuresti |
asta ca sa intelegem despre ce e vorba de fapt
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daca nu ai o toyota
4X4,ai gresit
masina
- negru pe alb "Popa Nan e-o stradă-nspre Hala Traian
De la Foișor până-n Piața Vitan" |
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24 Jan 2019, 11:26
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IRONICK |
24 Jan 2019, 20:33
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cj98czh |
24 Jan 2019, 21:51
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eu zic ca trebuia sa candidezi tu ... oricum le stii mai bine ca ei ... erai perfect
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VladSoare |
25 Jan 2019, 11:08
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"A demisionat azi-noapte".
Consiliul de administrație Renault lucrează noaptea, ca hoții și parlamentarii? Ziua nu putea să demisioneze? This post has been edited by VladSoare: 25 Jan 2019, 11:09 |
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cj98czh |
25 Jan 2019, 11:27
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Avand in vedere ca Japonia este cu vreo 5 ore in fata .... la el era zi .... in europa noapte .... corect zic eu ...
Intre timp ... noul CEO Renault ... si implicit Nissan-Mitsu .. https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/01/2...n/#.XErWxFwzZPY This post has been edited by cj98czh: 25 Jan 2019, 11:29 |
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VladSoare |
25 Jan 2019, 11:36
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A, și s-a grăbit omul să demisioneze la prima oră, fix la 8 dimineața. Nici nu s-a trezit bine din somn și a și sărit direct pe telefon. Iar cei din consiliul de administrație erau cu toții treji la 3 noaptea, adunați în birou, așteptînd cu înfrigurare telefonul lui.
Sau poate că s-a grăbit tocmai în speranța ca francezii să fie cu toții la nani. Să poată spune dup-aia "eu am încercat, dar n-am putut". Dar ai naibii francezi, erau toți la datorie, ca să-i facă în ciudă. Ca aici: https://youtu.be/Z18f51GtZzA?t=243 This post has been edited by VladSoare: 25 Jan 2019, 11:47 |
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ursul_bipolar |
25 Jan 2019, 13:17
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Pai nu, ca la parnaie ii trezeste de la 7. A avut o ora sa se gandeasca.
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IRONICK |
25 Jan 2019, 19:27
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wolfin |
25 Jan 2019, 19:33
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n-am gasit cu dacia Group: Members Posts: 7.910 Joined: 2 December 05 From: Bucuresti |
Am o impresie...ca mr Carlos...acum nu o sa mai aiba "probleme" si o sa fie lasat cu bratara acasa.
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3120
... din 1980 si ceva. Urmeaza si 2020
- Curand de provincie Scuze Mucix, am gasit altul"În fata unei boli esti precaut sau prost", o stai ..Bici zice ca o gasit a buna...mis un cane rau dar cu suflet mare
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bion |
25 Jan 2019, 19:35
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Caii mor de drum lung.
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Și setea ogoi-le-ar cu venin, Căci n-au păreche-n lume blestemații Crîșmarii care toarnă apă-n vin ! |
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wolfin |
25 Jan 2019, 19:37
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n-am gasit cu dacia Group: Members Posts: 7.910 Joined: 2 December 05 From: Bucuresti |
Si cainele de lipsa(pierderea) osului.
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... din 1980 si ceva. Urmeaza si 2020
- Curand de provincie Scuze Mucix, am gasit altul"În fata unei boli esti precaut sau prost", o stai ..Bici zice ca o gasit a buna...mis un cane rau dar cu suflet mare
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ursul_bipolar |
25 Jan 2019, 19:51
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buna asta!
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papa_mulo |
26 Jan 2019, 13:42
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IRONICK |
28 Jan 2019, 14:54
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QUOTE Potrivit unor informații neoficiale, Ghosn a acceptat să demisioneze din cele două funcții după ce a ajuns la un acord pentru a primi o compensație financiară estimată la 25 - 28 milioane de euro și o pensie anuală de 800.000 de euro. Decizia finală cu privire la pachetul financiar va fi luată însă de consiliul de administrație al Renault |
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IRONICK |
30 Jan 2019, 14:23
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Penibil, ipocrit.
Exclusive interview: Ghosn says 'plot and treason' led to arrest QUOTE January 30, 2019 17:00 JST In his first interview since being detained on Nov.19, ousted Nissan Chairman Carlos Ghosn claimed that certain people had "distorted reality" for the purpose of "getting rid of him." TOKYO -- Former Nissan Motor Chairman Carlos Ghosn said Wednesday that he had "no doubt" that the charges against him were the result of "plot and treason" by Nissan executives opposed to his plan for deeper integration between Renault and its two Japanese alliance partners. Speaking in his first interview since being detained on Nov. 19, Ghosn acknowledged that "there was a plan to integrate" Renault, Nissan and Mitsubishi Motors. The plans had been discussed with Nissan president Hiroto Saikawa in September, he added. Ghosn claimed that he had wanted to include Mitsubishi Motors CEO Osamu Masuko in the talks, but "Saikawa wanted it one-on-one." Once the three automakers were more closely integrated, Ghosn wanted to ensure there would be "autonomy under one holding company," he said, adding that this plan was in line with how he had operated the alliance in past years. Allies of Ghosn's have argued that some Nissan executives feared a further concentration of power under his leadership, prompting them to cooperate with Tokyo Prosecutors. Ghosn spoke to Nikkei at the Tokyo Detention House, where he has been held since Nov. 19. (Illustration by Hajime Hagiwara) The Brazilian-born tycoon has dismissed accusations that his 19-year reign at Nissan was a "dictatorship," saying this was a narrative created by rivals who wanted to remove him. "People translated strong leadership to dictator, to distort reality" for the "purpose of getting rid of me," he added. Ghosn was allowed to speak to Nikkei for roughly 20 minutes at the Tokyo Detention House, where he has been held without bail for more than 70 days since Tokyo prosecutors arrested him on allegations of financial misconduct. He was charged with underreporting his salary over several years, and aggravated breach of trust for allegedly transferring to Nissan his personal trading losses from foreign exchange contracts. The breach-of-trust charges center on $14.7 million in payments to a company run by Saudi businessman Khaled al-Juffali. He denied the accusations and claimed "the executive in charge of the region signed [the approval]." The payment was made from Ghosn's "CEO reserve," a pot of money that he was free to decide how to spend. He said the "CEO reserve is not a black box" and "four officers signed" for the payment to al-Juffali. Ghosn is also accused of receiving 7.82 million euros ($8.9 million) in improper payments through Nissan-Mitsubishi B.V., a Netherlands-based joint venture between the two Japanese companies. He said the venture was established for "synergy and not for payment," adding that the claims of improper payments were a "distortion of reality." See also Ghosn charges are thin soup -- case for ex-Nissan boss 60% chance of Ghosn conviction -- case against businessman Ghosn said his purchase of luxury properties in Rio de Janeiro and Beirut -- which Nissan alleges were paid for improperly through a subsidiary -- were approved by the legal department. Pointing to a former loyalist and long-time executive in the legal department, Ghosn said: "Hari Nada has done all this." He justified the houses on the grounds that he "needed a safe place where [he] can work and receive people in both Brazil and Lebanon." "[Have I] done [something] inappropriate? I am not a lawyer, I don't know the interpretation of [such] facts," Ghosn said, showing his frustration over Nissan's internal investigation. "These are known by everybody, why didn't they tell me?" Ghosn, whose second bail request was rejected Jan. 22, insisted that he was not a flight risk and he would not destroy evidence. "I won't flee, I will defend [myself]," he added. "All the evidence is with Nissan, and Nissan forbids all employees to talk to me." When asked about life in the detention center, Ghosn said "there is up and down." As for his health, he simply said he was "doing fine." Nissan dismissed Ghosn from his position as chairman in November. An extraordinary general meeting of shareholders scheduled in mid-April is expected to remove Ghosn as a director. Ghosn resigned as chairman and CEO of Renault, and former Michelin chief Jean-Dominique Senard was appointed as the chairman. The three members of the alliance are expected to revisit how it is operated in the absence of Ghosn's leadership. "I cannot speculate about the future of the alliance," Ghosn said. The French government, Renault's largest shareholder, has previously requested Ghosn make the relationship between the two automakers "irreversible." Following Ghosn's arrest, France also informed Tokyo of an intention to press ahead with integration. Saikawa, in contrast, has insisted there is "no need for now to discuss [it]." Interviewed by Nikkei commentator Atushi Nakayama, Nikkei staff writers Akito Tanaka and Yosuke Kurabe. |
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30 Jan 2019, 19:04
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He said the venture was established for "synergy and not for payment"
Asta ajungea departe tare in PSD |
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1 Feb 2019, 08:25
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2 Feb 2019, 08:37
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QUOTE(IRONICK @ 30 Jan 2019, 14:23) Nu ma mira. Un expat American vorbea despre viata in Japonia si cum functioneaza lucrurile de fapt. Spunea ca in spatele imaginii astea de onoare/mega-corectidutine pe care muncesc asidu sa o promoveze se ascunde o cultura inradacinata a falsurilor, acoperitului greselilor/prostiilor, manipulare. Dadea exemple banale de cazuri cand au descoperit in constructii ca se folosisera materiale falsificate - structura cladirii era umpluta cu tot felurite deseuri in loc de beton. In plus suspecta atitudinea managerilor Nissan la conferintele de presa imediat dupa arest. Ok nu zic ca tb sa-l apere, macar sa evite sa se pronunte in privinta vinovatiei. Cand managerul ala asta a si facut a spus ca Ghosn e vinovat. Ce sa mai spui.... Oricum dupa trasnaia cu Fukusima: citind ce coruptie, lucruri trecute cu vederea, minciuna la toate nivelurile au condus la asa ceva, mi-au spulberat mitul ca japonezii erau niste zei ai corectitudinii. Chiar sunt departe de asta. Pb e ca sunt parsivi si abili iar lumea pune botul. Lucrez intr-un mediu multinational. Observ (din experienta chiar) la cei din parti orientale o cultura a vicleniei: numai un zambet, plecaciuni. In timp ce au ei grija sa te "prelucreze" in background. Numai ca noi suntem romani si oarecum antrenati la toate schemele astea. Vorba aia "aceleasi glume aceleasi scheme". This post has been edited by mihai2005: 2 Feb 2019, 08:47 |
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cj98czh |
2 Feb 2019, 10:45
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Compania mama pt care lucrez este japoneza si pot sa iti spun doar atat ... au un cult al calitatii cum nu am vazut nici la americani, francezi, nemti sau austrieci ... de noi nici nu merita sa amintesc aici.
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2 Feb 2019, 12:34
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QUOTE(cj98czh @ 2 Feb 2019, 10:45) Compania mama pt care lucrez este japoneza si pot sa iti spun doar atat ... au un cult al calitatii cum nu am vazut nici la americani, francezi, nemti sau austrieci ... de noi nici nu merita sa amintesc aici. Situatia poate fi diferita in companiile private dat fiind contextul international si faptul ca tb sa fie competitivi. In ce spuneam era vorba de cineva care a locuit la ei niste ani buni. Discutia era la nivel mai general. This post has been edited by mihai2005: 2 Feb 2019, 12:35 |
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ursul_bipolar |
2 Feb 2019, 14:56
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E, pt romanasi strugurii sunt super acrii. De asta sunt japonezii unde sunt si noi unde suntem, de prosti parsivi si indolenti ce sunt.
Am cativa clienti de pe acolo, am fost acolo iar acolo nu prea "merge si asa". Va rog, daca nu stiti despre ce e vorba nu va pronuntati atat de categoric. Nu va faceti iluzii desarte. Nu sunt perfecti dar acolo lucrurile merg al naibii de bine. This post has been edited by ursul_bipolar: 2 Feb 2019, 14:59 |
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