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cosminus
post 26 Aug 2008, 21:07
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Am atins firele care ies de la sonda si nu porneste, urmeaza sa verific releu si elv. Dar nu stiu care este releul si unde se afla


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post 27 Aug 2008, 10:51
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Eu nu am avut releu din fabrica.
Verifica si mufa de pe electromotor. Mie pe un drum accidentat mi-a iesit mufa respectiva, dar nu de tot, doar cat sa nu mai faca bine contact. De atunci am infasurat in jurul ei banda izolatoare.
Daca totul pana la electromotor este OK mai ramane acesta din urma.


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post 27 Aug 2008, 11:01
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QUOTE(nelu @ 27 Aug 2008, 11:51)
Eu nu am avut releu din fabrica.
Verifica si mufa de pe electromotor. .
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Eu cred ca omu' se refera la ELV ( eletroventilator ) nu la electromotor , si daca nu ii porneste ELV-ul uite aici o schema cu care se poate depista problema in cauza !!

In primul rand trebuie sa gaseasca releul ... dry.gif

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post 28 Aug 2008, 07:27
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Am gasit, era siguranta arsa. Releu nu cred ca am. Pe aripa stanga am 3 sigurante si 2 relee. Doua sigurante si doua relee sunt pentru injectie si ramane doar siguranta care era arsa si am schimbato.


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post 28 Aug 2008, 08:26
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Tot la ELV m-am referit si eu. Ventilatorul este invartit de un motor electric, deci electromotor.
cosminus, ce valoare avea siguranta arsa? La mine este de 25A (din fabrica) si nu am avut probleme.


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post 31 Aug 2008, 09:55
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post 31 Aug 2008, 19:38
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Merci. La inceput ma speriasem ca era valoarea cam mare. Cred ca stiau ei ceva ca au pus-o de 25A.


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post 31 Aug 2008, 20:38
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Eu am pus de 40A releul si merge OK, insa cam trepideaza motorul cand el sta pornit; de la asta sa fie? Sau e de la consum prea mare?... huh.gif


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post 31 Aug 2008, 21:11
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QUOTE(v_razvan_c @ 31 Aug 2008, 21:38)
Eu am pus de 40A releul si merge OK, insa cam trepideaza motorul cand el sta pornit; de la asta sa fie? Sau e de la consum prea mare?... huh.gif
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Iti trepideaza motorul datorita ralantiului, daca l-ai avea mai mare probabil ca nu s-ar simti asa pregnant , ELV-ul cand functioneaza absoarbe curent de la alternator/baterie si normal ca automat alternatorul infraneaza in functie de consumatori motorul , la fel se intampla si cu farurile cand le aprinzi ! excl.gif


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post 31 Aug 2008, 22:07
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Si cand e relantiul la 1000RPM, cand porneste ELV, ajunge pe la 700 chiar. In fine... smile.gif


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post 31 Aug 2008, 22:24
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QUOTE(v_razvan_c @ 31 Aug 2008, 23:07)
Si cand e relantiul la 1000RPM, cand porneste ELV, ajunge pe la 700 chiar. In fine... smile.gif
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Atat de muuuult infraneaza la tine , da' ce ELV ai ??? ph34r.gif


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post 31 Aug 2008, 23:39
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Din ala mare, cu ditamai miezul... E modelul cum se punea pe DACIA din '80.

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post 1 Sep 2008, 06:49
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QUOTE(v_razvan_c @ 1 Sep 2008, 00:39)
Din ala mare, cu ditamai miezul... E modelul cum se punea pe DACIA din '80.
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Din acela am si eu dar la mine nus cade ataaat , eu am ralantiul undeva la 850-900 si imi scade vreo 40 de ture maxim, nu stiu la tine de ce scade atat de mult , sa nu dea ceva la masa cand porneste ELV-ul huh.gif


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post 1 Sep 2008, 11:16
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huh.gif Poate e si de la baterie...? Am de 44Ah.


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post 1 Sep 2008, 15:54
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QUOTE(v_razvan_c @ 1 Sep 2008, 12:16)
huh.gif Poate e si de la baterie...? Am de 44Ah.
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Posibil .. dry.gif dar alternatorul de cat este ??? eu am de 55 bateria si alternatorul de 50 cu fulie mai mica de Oltcit !! rolleyes.gif


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post 1 Sep 2008, 17:35
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Eee, pai ai lux. Eu nu stiu de cat am alternatorul, ala al ei din fabrica cred, asa pare...


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post 1 Sep 2008, 18:19
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QUOTE(v_razvan_c @ 1 Sep 2008, 18:35)
Eee, pai ai lux.
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Am incercat cat de cat sa ii fac acest "lux" treptat, in functie de posibilitatile financiare si de ocaziile care se iveau ... rolleyes.gif


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post 1 Sep 2008, 19:10
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Da, pai ma gandeam, asa si eu...

Acum chiar s-ar merita sa am fulie mica la alternator, ca am cutie cu 5 trepte si nu mai e asa solicitat alternatorul. smile.gif

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Apropo de alternator, la ce foloseste condensatorul ala pus intre masa si +? Eu nu il am...

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post 1 Sep 2008, 22:30
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QUOTE(v_razvan_c @ 1 Sep 2008, 19:10)
Da, pai ma gandeam, asa si eu...

Acum chiar s-ar merita sa am fulie mica la alternator, ca am cutie cu 5 trepte si nu mai e asa solicitat alternatorul. smile.gif

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Apropo de alternator, la ce foloseste condensatorul ala pus intre masa si +? Eu nu il am...
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post 2 Sep 2008, 15:07
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Ce coincidenta. Exact ieri mi-a fiert motorul prima oara in 2 ani. Fiind obisnuit ca porneste singur ELV-ul legal la termocupla nu am activat ELV-ul secundar legat la buton in bord si asa mi s-a dus antigelul pe apa sambetei.

Intai am identificat releul prin incercare, apoi siguranta. Siguranta ok, dar ventilatorul functiona daca ii dadeam bobarnace releului sau daca tineam apast. Am inlocuit releul (care era model 1970..) cu unul nou si aia e.

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