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post 8 Mar 2008, 22:30
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post 8 Mar 2008, 22:32
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a se vedea la min 2:40 cand incerca sa ridice ambreiaju;


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post 8 Mar 2008, 23:00
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aia din fata masinii ce e?


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post 8 Mar 2008, 23:06
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Am vazut la discovery un reportaj ... si au in interiorul masinii un radiator la curent electric ( alimentat cu acel cablu ) care sa tina motorul ( oarecum ) cald pentru a nu ingheta antigelul smile.gif


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post 8 Mar 2008, 23:09
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Tot ii inghetat ... laugh.gif


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post 8 Mar 2008, 23:15
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Scrie pe youtube ca ala e "block heater" - ceva electric pt. incalzirea blocului motor, incalzitor ce fusese pornit cu 4 ore inainte...
Astia nu stiu "tehnicile" tip Roman Diesel, cu somoiogu' de motorina aprins si plimbat pe sub masina laugh.gif

PS: ce bolovan, tot trantea usa ca nu se inchide, trebuia sa dea cu ceva spray de dezghetare apoi cu lubrifiant in mecanismul inchizatorii...

PPS: ilustreaza f. bine de ce e bine sa calci ambreiajul la pornirea motorului, in special iarna wink.gif

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post 8 Mar 2008, 23:17
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Dieselu' ma-ndoi ca pornea smile.gif


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....chiar si suby fara ambreiajul apasat biggrin.gif


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post 8 Mar 2008, 23:33
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Pentru diesel-uri ar trebui sa intrebe la fratii rusi camionagii prin Siberia. biggrin.gif


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post 8 Mar 2008, 23:37
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Cred ca ingheta si spray-u de dezghetare.Sunt curios cate dacii ar mai porni radmasa.gif


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post 8 Mar 2008, 23:40
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deja am luat-o pe aratura cu dacia laugh.gif
totusi,suby e masina icon_mrgreen.gif


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post 9 Mar 2008, 00:07
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adevarul este ca dacia mea proneste la -44 ca de ea vorbiti nu ? STi nu ? radmasa.gif


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post 9 Mar 2008, 01:30
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QUOTE(GoGu @ 9 Mar 2008, 00:15)
PPS: ilustreaza f. bine de ce e bine sa calci ambreiajul la pornirea motorului, in special iarna  wink.gif
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Care e treaba cu calcatul ambreiajului? Am observat si eu ca iarna la -16 grade cand am pornit dieselul, a pornit ok cu ambreiaul apasat, iar cand l-am lasat, s-a simtit o mica smucitura ca si cum s-ar fi cuplat, scazand si turatia putin, pentru o zecime de secunda....
La tipul cu Subaru se oprea motorul doar ca lasa ambreiajul ? Nici nu era in viteza masina blink.gif


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post 9 Mar 2008, 01:34
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la -44 de grade uleiul din cutie devine foarte vascos,masina tinde sa plece de pe loc scoasa din viteaza..sau sa se opreasca motorul


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post 9 Mar 2008, 01:36
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Hmm, foarte interesant blink.gif Multumesc pentru explicatie smile.gif


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post 9 Mar 2008, 09:40
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Daca tineti la bateriile voastre si nu vreti dupa aia sa plangeti ca dupa 2 ani a murit bateria, porniti motorul rece DOAR cu ambreiajul apasat. Dupa care lasati motorul sa mearga putin cum a facut asta in clip, apoi ridicati usor ambreiajul. Daca motorul tinde sa moara, ajutati-l putin cu acceleratia. Tipul din clip nu a facut asta initial doar ca sa ne arate ce poate face -44 grade unei cutii. Eu la -26 de grade am simtit pe pielea mea ce poate face. Mentionez ca Dacia mea 1300 a pornit aproape instant la acea temperatura, in schimb ii era aproape imposibil sa invarta cutia chiar cu socul la maxim.


Deci, ca aveti Dacie veche, Logan, Megane, Mercedes sau STi, porniti la rece doar cu ambreiajul apasat.


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post 9 Mar 2008, 09:40
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Ca or fi fost grade Fahrenheit cam tot p-acolo sunt si in Celsius, -40 conicide cu -40 pe ambele scale. Nu stiu ce Dacie ar fi pornit la o asemenea temperatura. De fapt nu stiu cate masini pe carburator ar fi plecat.
Cat despre rusii din Siberia si camioanele lor, eu stiam ca-s pe benzina, sper sa nu ma insel. happy.gif


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post 9 Mar 2008, 10:37
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Totusi, daca nu ingheata nimic, Dacia, pe injectie, de ce nu ar fi pornit? Mai ales astea mai noi? Cu o baterie buna nu vad de ce nu ar porni..


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post 9 Mar 2008, 10:38
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Din cauză de personalitate. Na.


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post 9 Mar 2008, 11:03
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-44 brrrrrrrrrrr


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post 9 Mar 2008, 12:46
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ca sa poti inchide portiera in acele conditii trebuie sa incui si sa descui masina cu portiera deschisa.(atentie: cu cheia nu cu telecomanda)..stiu din proprie experienta, am patit cu o alfa romeo in romania la -25 grade. oricum daca nu avea acel sistem de-i tinea motorul "cald" cat de cat e imposibil sa pornesti la -44 de grade.....cel putin cu masinile de ultima generatie care au 1000 de senzori. cat despre rusii din siberia, am vazut o gramada de documentare pe discovery. intradevar sunt camioane pe benzina, dar cu motoare foarte SIMPLE....putina flacara pe sub ele si gata.
insa de pe la -50 in jos spuneau ca le lasa pornite ca altfel trebuie sa astepte primavara.. tongue.gif

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aaaa si rusii aveau in cabina soba pe lemne biggrin.gif

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post 9 Mar 2008, 17:17
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desi sunt doar -19 face cam multe figuri biggrin.gif


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post 9 Mar 2008, 18:49
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QUOTE(driverx @ 9 Mar 2008, 09:40)
Daca tineti la bateriile voastre si nu vreti dupa aia sa plangeti ca dupa 2 ani a murit bateria, porniti motorul rece DOAR cu ambreiajul apasat. Dupa care lasati motorul sa mearga putin cum a facut asta in clip, apoi ridicati usor ambreiajul. Daca motorul tinde sa moara, ajutati-l putin cu acceleratia. Tipul din clip nu a facut asta initial doar ca sa ne arate ce poate face -44 grade unei cutii. Eu la -26 de grade am simtit pe pielea mea ce poate face. Mentionez ca Dacia mea 1300 a pornit aproape instant la acea temperatura, in schimb ii era aproape imposibil sa invarta cutia chiar cu socul la maxim.
Deci, ca aveti Dacie veche, Logan, Megane, Mercedes sau STi, porniti la rece doar cu ambreiajul apasat.
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Intotdeauna e bine sa pornesti cu ambreiajul apasat, fie vara fie iarna, electromotorul invarte doar motorul, nu si cutia, deci ii prelungeste viata. Bateria la fel.


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post 9 Mar 2008, 19:34
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QUOTE(ady85btz @ 9 Mar 2008, 16:17)
desi sunt doar -19 face cam multe figuri  biggrin.gif

Diesel, nu benzina. Si e cam disperat cu contactul. Nu inteleg de ce nu lasa sa se stinga becul la bujii si apoi sa-i dea.


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post 9 Mar 2008, 19:41
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Stiu ca-i diesel,dar ma mira ca o ia asa greu.Golanu meu la -15 a luat-o din prima tongue.gif (dupa vro 3 secunde)


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Pentru că, după cum a remarcat Liviu, bujiile incandescente nu au apucat să se încălzească. Iar motorina are punctul de îngheț mai ridicat, deci era probabil destul de vâscoasă, fie ea și aditivată.

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post 9 Mar 2008, 20:37
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dieselache ala si-a cam dat bateria pe bipuri tongue.gif

PS: ...si pe langa faptul ca daca ti ambreiajul apasat va porni masina mai usor sa nu uitam ca uleiul din cutie e MULT mai vascos fata de cel din motor, deci aici e adevarata pb.

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hahahaha...ce chestie,io de cand am dacia numa cu ambreiaju calcat o pornesc fie iarna fie vara..dar nu am stiut ca este un lucru benefic pentu masina!il tineam apasat asa din instinct,parca "simteam" io ca e mai bine daca o pornesc cu ambriaju calcat...biggrin.gif

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SebyAvrig: astia de mai sus o pornit cum o pornit,da` ui la asta!asta se crede crisocea!cum naiba vrea sa o porneasca cand are motoru si esapamentu plin de zapada?


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Tocmai la filmul asta m-am uitat mai devreme radmasa.gif
Nici nu s-a chinuit sa curete ... a scos cu lopata sa bage bateria si atat ... si cica " piece of shit " blink.gif


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