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post 18 Apr 2008, 21:08
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Un concurent demn de Ferrari...


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post 18 Apr 2008, 21:12
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Mai bună e 7 speed DSG de la VAG. smile.gif


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post 18 Apr 2008, 21:40
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Nu are cum sa fie nici mai buna, nici mai rea. Este exact acelasi lucru smile.gif.


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post 18 Apr 2008, 21:42
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post 18 Apr 2008, 21:44
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Nu chiar de Ferrari...nici macar de R8


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post 19 Apr 2008, 00:02
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S-au trezit si astia dupa 5 ani.

Mercedes a introdus pe piata G-tronic cu 7 trepte, in 2003.

Si oricum nu se compara calitativ cu ce scot BMW si VAG. Toate limuzinele de lux din lumea asta, au numai cutii Mercedes, datorita fiabilitatii ridicate.

Revenind la discutie, SMG si DSG nu sunt acelasi lucru. DSG are doua ambreiaje. DSG e mai rapida, dar SMG e mai fiabila.


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post 19 Apr 2008, 02:15
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QUOTE(andu911 @ 19 Apr 2008, 00:02)
Si oricum nu se compara calitativ cu ce scot BMW si VAG. Toate limuzinele de lux din lumea asta, au numai cutii Mercedes, datorita fiabilitatii ridicate.

Revenind la discutie, SMG si DSG nu sunt acelasi lucru. DSG are doua ambreiaje. DSG e mai rapida, dar SMG e mai fiabila.
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Mercedes nu prea face cutii. Nici BMW si nici VW nu fac cutii.
De anul acesta cutia DSG este diponibila si la BMW sub numele M DKG. Cutia DSG nu este creatia grupului VW, ci a fost licentiata de la BorgWarner .
http://www.borgwarner.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BorgWarner

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post 19 Apr 2008, 10:08
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Acum zici ca DSG este disponibila si la BMW sub numele de M DKG. Mai sus ziceai ca e acelasi lucru cu SMG.
E bine ca ai citit si ti-ai facut o idee.

Legat de prima afirmatie, iar scrii fara sa cauti macar pe net, sa-ti faci vreo idee. Mercedes si-a construit cutiile proprii de cand s-au nascut masinile Mercedes.

The 7G-Tronic transmission is built at the Mercedes-Benz Stuttgart-Untertuerkheim plant in Germany, the site of Daimler-Benz's original production facility.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7G-Tronic

Ti-a spus tie cineva ca Mercedes "nu prea face cutii." Cutii de bere poate... biggrin.gif

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post 19 Apr 2008, 10:33
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post 19 Apr 2008, 14:07
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@andu911: cred ca paul_p spunea ca DSG si M DKG sunt cam acelasi lucru: adica dual clutch de tip "wet". SMG nu e acelasi lucru cu DSG asa cum spui si tu. SMG Drivelogic , 7 speed care e pe M6 nu e double clutch si cred ca M6 din clip are cutia SMG.

Mercedes face cutii - in mod evident, componentele pot proveni de la diversi furnizori: Getrag, Bosch, etc.

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post 19 Apr 2008, 17:07
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Masina, ce sa mai vorbim. wub.gif


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post 19 Apr 2008, 20:45
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Asta masina ... wub.gif


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post 20 Apr 2008, 02:38
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QUOTE(andu911 @ 19 Apr 2008, 10:08)
Acum zici ca DSG este disponibila si la BMW sub numele de M DKG. Mai sus ziceai ca e acelasi lucru cu SMG.
E bine ca ai citit si ti-ai facut o idee.

Legat de prima afirmatie, iar scrii fara sa cauti macar pe net, sa-ti faci vreo idee. Mercedes si-a construit cutiile proprii de cand s-au nascut masinile Mercedes.

The 7G-Tronic transmission is built at the Mercedes-Benz Stuttgart-Untertuerkheim plant in Germany, the site of Daimler-Benz's original production facility.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7G-Tronic

Ti-a spus tie cineva ca Mercedes "nu prea face cutii." Cutii de bere poate... biggrin.gif
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Sau la Cugir... tongue.gif


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post 20 Apr 2008, 05:53
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Mercedes nu face cutii...aberant! Mercedes face super cutii! Iar dsg si 7g tronic sunt la poluri opuse. 7 g tronic e o cutie automata nu e un DCT.

daca vreti o sectiune prin 7 tronic si o schema cinematica se rezolva


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post 20 Apr 2008, 21:06
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QUOTE(VLADIautomobile @ 18 Apr 2008, 21:44)
Nu chiar de Ferrari...nici macar de R8
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Viteza 192 mph(312 km/h) eu il consider un concurent de luat in seama.


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post 21 Apr 2008, 09:39
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Urmarind filmul nu-ntelegeam ce e asa de spectaculos. Abia spre final am observat ca erau mile/h si nu km/h... Si altfel au aratat lucrurile biggrin.gif
Frumos.

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post 23 Apr 2008, 00:22
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Am crezut ca se face pilaf de x5-ul din fata lui pe autostrada. Frumoasa masinuta, si cutia este tare interesanta. Are un coleg de la facultate un 320 sau 330i, nu mai retin, si se schimba in 3 feluri vitezele: automat, manual de la schimbator si manual de la padelele din spatele volanului, si nu are ambreiaj.

LE: ma rog nu are pedala de ambreiaj. Asta sa nu sariti cu mine la "bula".

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