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post 10 Sep 2008, 09:23
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de putut se pot multe, chestia e daca e confortabil pentru ochi..la aia ma refeream.


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post 10 Sep 2008, 09:35
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Desi nu-i despre lonjeroane intervin din nou. Treba sta in felul urmator. Un monitor intr-adevar il poti folosi cu tuner extern, sau daca are tuner incorporat, pe post de teveu'. Dar calitatea o sa lase mereu de dorit. Sigur, e foarte ok cand vreau sa ma uit 10 minute, o ora, dar nu pentru a juca rol permanent de TV. Rezolutia e mare in comparatie cu un LCD-TV entry-level, dar care ar avea si o diagonala mai mare si care, intr-adevar nu prea merge folosit ca monitor, cum nu prea merge nici asta folosit ca televizor, "la drum lung", datorita rezolutiei mici si pitch-ului mare, cum zicea si argon.
Cred ca o solutie ieftina pentru driver e un tuner de 70-80 de lei pe care sa-l bagi in "pisi". Sau cauta un CRT care sa aiba 100Hz, facea Sony d-astea, poate inca mai gasesti unul. Pana la urma pentru Discovery e chiar mai indicat sa iei ceva 4:3 decat wide, tinand cont ca la noi doar HBO parca ce mai emite wide. Restul se vor vedea deformate pe un wide. Multi se obisnuiesc, eu nu suport.


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post 10 Sep 2008, 09:41
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Ce pici-uri ma? De ce nu merge permanent pe TV? De ce sa lase de dorit daca tuneru e bun?


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post 10 Sep 2008, 09:43
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Merced, vorbesti ca si cand tunerul dintr-un r@h@t de tv LCD de 850 ron e mai bun decat un tuner stand alone...

Uite unul eftin ce rezolutii suporta..


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post 10 Sep 2008, 09:47
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Daca ati vedea ce de aberatii poate scoate un tuner dintr-un TV de 800 RON.....

Deci serios. Un monitor uman + un tuner extern ok nu vad ce dezavantaje ar avea. Plus ca in general monitoarele au timp de raspuns mai rapizi ca TVuri LCD mai ieftine.


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post 10 Sep 2008, 09:47
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Eh, uita-te le un monitor cu tuner, stand alone daca vrei, si cat de bun poa' sa fie, si apoi uita-te la un televizor, nu neaparat vreo smecherie full HD, un televizor LCD de buget mai redus. Daca nu vezi diferente(in favoarea televizorului normal), iti trebuie ochelari. De fapt va trebuie ochelari.







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post 10 Sep 2008, 09:48
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S-a uitat Liviu, intrebati-l pe el, era multumit de cum se vede.


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post 10 Sep 2008, 09:51
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Nu ca ma pricep, dar un tv lcd, este un monitor si un tuner. Eu, care am televizor lcd, si am avut un tuner pe computer, acum un an era foarte bun, consider ca Tv-ul bate monitorul. Si despre functia de monitor, iarasi zic ca e super ok. Folosesc laptop-ul conectat la tv cand stau pe canapea, cu tst si mouse wireless. La 3 metri, rezolutie 1280x768 si 81 cm diagonala, e super ok.


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post 10 Sep 2008, 09:53
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bine..e vs crt, dar stiu cum vede un tv lcd ieftin...a..si nu mai bat preturile de acum 3 ani biggrin.gif


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post 10 Sep 2008, 15:12
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QUOTE(Ov @ 10 Sep 2008, 09:50)
tv-ul meu are intrare VGA si il poti folosi bine-mersi pe post de monitor
doar ca-i cam mare  laugh.gif
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Bre, ce jucarie ai? Ca io am nevoie doar de monitor, nu de tot tembelizoru'.


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post 10 Sep 2008, 22:15
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mai toate LCD-urile si PDP-urile au intrare VGA. Si alea care n-au VGA au HDMI. Si exista cabluri DVI->HDMI. Si daca ai placa video cu iesire DVI, atunci sigur poti s-o imperechezi cu un teveu. Al meu (irelevant modelul) are intrare VGA si "stie" 1024x768.


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post 10 Sep 2008, 22:43
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Bre, de fapt pe mine ma intereseaza un monitor cu intrare RGB.


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post 12 Sep 2008, 09:11
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Am posibilitatea sa-mi iau plasma asta din Italia si m-ar costa circa 970 Euro cu tot cu transport. Merita? E buna de ceva? Mentionez ca nu ma pricep deloc plange.gif
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Samsung-PS50Q97H...ecification.php


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post 12 Sep 2008, 09:15
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LCD-ul e mai bun.are durata de viata mai mare decat plasma.si pt culori frumoase, cauta un model care sa aibe contrastul cat mai mare...asta inseamna k albul sa fie cat mai alb si negrul cat mai negru.bafta!


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post 12 Sep 2008, 09:20
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daca vrei ghosting, artefacte, aliasing, negru care de fapt este gri inchis, culori aprinse dar nenaturale, mergi pe LCD!
PS! e adevarat ca panelul LCD ar avea mai multe ore de functionare, dar nu este valabil si pt ''neoane'' ( cauta pe wiki cum funtioneaza LCD), dar la o medie de 60000 de ore, la cit au ajuns acum plasmele, fa si tu un calcul sa vezi cam cit te tine!


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post 12 Sep 2008, 09:23
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Astia dau in specificatii 60.000 h durata de viata. 60.000 h / 24h/zi /365 zile/an = circa 7 ani daca as folosi-o in continuu. Dupa vreo cativa ani oricum as vrea sa o schimb cu ceva mai bun tongue.gif


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post 12 Sep 2008, 09:25
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Acuma, eu zic sa te uiti la niste Panasonic!
Nu de alt adar inaintea lor nu este nimeni la Plasma!
Poate, defapt este dar doar la o anumita gama , Pioneer cu ale lui modele Kuro ( nu-i injuratura)


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post 12 Sep 2008, 09:31
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Da-mi tu un exemplu, te rog, de un panasonic bun (si la pret si la specificatii tongue.gif ) de 50", ca sa vad cat ar ajunge in Romania si cat in Italia.

PS Dupa cum spuneam nu ma pricep deloc.


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post 12 Sep 2008, 10:03
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Ai mai multe aici


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post 12 Sep 2008, 10:06
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Ce inseamna Full HD?


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post 12 Sep 2008, 10:12
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full HD e un snobism, un fel de full options smile.gif
HD ready e un fel de full fara piele smile.gif

defapt in literatura de "specialitate" standardul HD e doua smile.gif
si anume 720p (denumit la noi HD ready) si 1080p (denumit simplu HD sau full HD)
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post 12 Sep 2008, 10:20
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deci HD ready e un fel de papusa gonflabila? nedumerire.gif


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post 12 Sep 2008, 10:22
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Nu prea am inteles exact care sunt diferentele. sad.gif


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post 12 Sep 2008, 10:30
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daca iei Full HD, o sa se vada prost transmisiunile pe CATV , prost=> acceptabil DVD-urile clasice, si excelent DVD-HD sau alte surse de semnal HD!!

Cu HD Ready ai asa : acceptabil=>bun transmisiuni CATV, bun=>f.bun DVD, excelent, dar totusi sub, sursele de semnal HD!

La suresele de caliltate HD si paneluri intre 107-127cm, nu vezi diferente notabile la o distanta de vizionare mai mare de cca 60-75 cm!


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HD ready insemna 720p (adica 720 de linii)
full HD inseamna 1080pp (adica 1080 de linii)


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post 12 Sep 2008, 10:31
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QUOTE(Sony @ 12 Sep 2008, 11:22)
Nu prea am inteles exact care sunt diferentele. sad.gif
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post 12 Sep 2008, 10:34
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Ce inseamna digital terestru? Ce face? biggrin.gif


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noah, am luat un LG Monitor TV. 2lucruri nu imi plac deja la el si nu s-au observat pe raft oricat l-am butonat:
1) Difuzoarele....crappy
2) Se vede cum lumineaza sus si jos neonu' ala.

O alta problemuta ar fi ca nu detecteaza corect Aspect Ratio-ul la unele posturi. Doar la TVR cultural se pune automat pe 16:9.
O alta problemuta ar fi ca daca pun OSD-ul un limba lu Eminescu in loc sa scrie "Volum" scrie ceva kkt in norvegiana sau ceva limba dinasta imbarligata.

In rest scula faina. Urmeaza sa o conectez la compiuter (dar deocamdata prin SVideo ca e departe rau compiuteru de Monitoru'TV) si sistemul 7 - 1.

Question. Daca are HD ready pictat pe el, daca are mufa HDMI and shit, o sa pot receptiona semnal dejetal de la UPC??? Ca am inteles ca baga anu asta si la Funar City, nu doar la Bucale.

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semnal digital transmis prin eter, adica-l prinzi cu antena normala, doar ca pentru a-l vedea ai nevoie de un tuner digital.

Acest semnal digital terestru poate fi HD, desi spre mega-surprinderea mea (mersi Liviu), nu toate (adica majoritatea nu au) televizoarele fie ele HD ready sau "full" HD au tuner digital HD, adica au toate tuner digital, dar nu o sa se vada HD


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Bre, mai e un format digital si la cablu. Spre exemplu la UPC cica am pachetu' digital care se vede mai bine decat ala analog, da' mai prost decat digitv.


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