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post 26 Aug 2008, 18:06
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Si de la mine patru imagini mediteraneene:

o crisma-n Salonic (cea mai frumoasa seara din concediul asta), strada "turistica" in Argostoli (capitala Kefaloniei), un golf (stiu ca incadrarea sufera masiv, dar e interesanta fertilitatea care se vede) si Alitalia spre Napoli.




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post 27 Aug 2008, 18:17
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hop si eu, cu ce cred ca e mai artistic

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post 28 Aug 2008, 12:53
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post 29 Aug 2008, 12:52
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de ce nu puneti si voi..imagine existenta si cea dupa prelucrare?????


am gresit o litera

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post 29 Aug 2008, 12:57
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post 30 Aug 2008, 13:08
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Adica sa se vada si imaginea asa cum a iesit ea din aparat, fara imbunatatiri de contrast, claritate, saturatie, etc.


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post 30 Aug 2008, 13:30
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nu va suparati pe mine, dar e stupid.
mai am eu un coleg care imi cerea asta, si i-am facut o poza la care m-am jucat cu contrastul si saturatia din photoshop si apoi i-am facut alta la care dadusem direct din aparat contrastul si saturatia mai mari si au iesit identice. L-am intebat daca e multumit si n-a mai zis nimic.

Repet, daca rezultatul final va place, care e problema ca e trecuta prin photoshop sau nu ? Fotografia pe film nu credeti ca suferea modificari la developare? Exact acelasi lucru se face acum cu photoshop-ul! Si acum pe bune, cu o poza expusa incorect, cu o lumina nasoala, o incadrare proasta si lipsita de orice subiect, poti sa stai un an in photoshop ca tot n-o sa iasa nimic.


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post 30 Aug 2008, 23:20
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Ov, ce spui tu e corect dar nu se aplica in cazul in care vrei sa arati un cadru prins pentru ca asa l-ai vazut tu cu ochiul liber.

Una e sa faci o fotografie artistica (editata mult, culorile duse la limita irealului) si alta e sa scoti o fotografie care sa redea ceea ce se vede cu ochiul liber.

La cele artistice nu cred ca vrea nimeni sa vada originalul .. nu cred ca e de interes.
Dar la o fotografie care vrea sa prezinte o bucatica din realitate, originalul poate prezenta interes (zic eu) ... sa se vada si de la ce s-a plecat. Asa se pot invata multe si se pot evalua capabilitatile unor camere.


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post 30 Aug 2008, 23:32
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QUOTE(Ov @ 30 Aug 2008, 13:30)
nu va suparati pe mine, dar e stupid.
mai am eu un coleg care imi cerea asta, si i-am facut o poza la care m-am jucat cu contrastul si saturatia din photoshop si apoi i-am facut alta la care dadusem direct din aparat contrastul si saturatia mai mari si au iesit identice. L-am intebat daca e multumit si n-a mai zis nimic.

Repet, daca rezultatul final va place, care e problema ca e trecuta prin photoshop sau nu ? Fotografia pe film nu credeti ca suferea modificari la developare? Exact acelasi lucru se face acum cu photoshop-ul! Si acum pe bune, cu o poza expusa incorect, cu o lumina nasoala, o incadrare proasta si lipsita de orice subiect, poti sa stai un an in photoshop ca tot n-o sa iasa nimic.
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pt ca sunt unii specialisti in prelucrare imagine...si alti specialisti in fotografie... am putea sa observam care in ce categorie se inscrie......


sau macar sa se spuna daca pozele au fost prelucrate sau nu....intr-un program de editare imagine digitala.

e doar opinia mea, puteti sa o luati sau nu in considerare......


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post 30 Aug 2008, 23:40
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Eu credeam ca ne batem in hobbyuri aici... Daca e cineva profesionist, sa se anunte, ca ma retrag smile.gif


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post 31 Aug 2008, 07:07
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Eu credeam ca nu ne batem in nimic aici, ci ca fiecare arata ce crede ca-i interesant - si anume, din orice punct de vedere: tehnic, documentar, artistic sau oricum altfel.


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post 31 Aug 2008, 08:37
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Asa credeam si eu, dar se pare ca m-am inselat. Si cum nu sunt pro in acest domeniu, i-am lasat pe ceilalti sa se desfasoare...

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post 31 Aug 2008, 09:08
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Asta cu "bataia" era, evident, o figura de stil...


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post 31 Aug 2008, 10:05
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eu doar voiam sa sugerez ca orice fotografie facuta cu un aparat digital este automat din start prelucrata (chiar de aparat) wink.gif

prin urmare, daca doriti, eu de acum voi posta doar raw-urile biggrin.gif
si ca sa pomenim si de profesionisti, aia nu cred ca "o ard" pe daciaclub icon_mrgreen.gif

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post 31 Aug 2008, 10:43
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Dom'le - de ce nu putem s-o lasam cum a cazut, fiecare arata ce crede el ca-i de aratat. Fiindca nu suntem nici profesionisti si nici critici de arta (aici: fotografica) nu cred ca-i constructiv sa continuam aceste linii de argumentatie.

Daca sunt colegi interesati de detalii (cu ce tehnica, cum arata originalul, ce prelucrari cu ce etc.) n-au decit sa intrebe. Daca autorul e dispus sa dea detaliile, le da; daca nu, nu (poate are de exemplu niste metode pe care nu doreste din cauza X sa le impartaseasca).


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post 31 Aug 2008, 10:44
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Sa pun si eu cateva de la Budapesta:

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post 1 Sep 2008, 12:24
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ce noise are poza 3 de la budapesta....cum ai facuto?

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Fara prelucrare, in afara de resize.


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QUOTE(b76bgaarh @ 1 Sep 2008, 13:24)
ce noise are poza 3 de la budapesta....cum ai facuto?
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Din mana, fara trepied cu un timp de expunere mai lung. Cu toate ca am setat o sensibilitate de 100 ASA (21 DIN) tot a iesit ceva zgomot pe imagine. Poate trebuia o sensibilitate si mai mica.

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din pacate cu un senzor cat o unghie nu se poate obtine un noise scazut.

Oricum felicitari, ai o mana "de fier".


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bag si eu cateva poze "artistice" smile.gif

"unealta" e fuji S6500

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beton aparatul, nu-mi inchipuiam ca e in stare de atat de putin noise.
Ca fapt divers, tu umblii tot timpul cu trepiedul dupa tine 04.gif ?


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QUOTE(Ov @ 3 Sep 2008, 11:55)
beton aparatul, nu-mi inchipuiam ca e in stare de atat de putin noise.
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Si pozele mele sunt facute tot cu S6500.

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QUOTE(Ov @ 3 Sep 2008, 11:55)
beton aparatul, nu-mi inchipuiam ca e in stare de atat de putin noise.
Ca fapt divers, tu umblii tot timpul cu trepiedul dupa tine 04.gif ?
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Daca plec in vacanta, sigur iau trepiedul, imi plac pozele cu expunere mare. smile.gif
Culmea e ca pozele originale au mult mai putin noise decat astea micsorate. Care program e bun pentru micsorarea pozelor?


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+ misto ideea si realizarea
- nu-mi place rama
- s-a intamplat ceva nasol la resize ca se vede de zici ca-i screen capture de pe un VHS biggrin.gif

P.S. mi se pare mie sau sunt 2 poze suprapuse unsure.gif


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BAE RJ100 de la Atena aterizeaza la Argostoli/Kefalonia.

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QUOTE(Ov @ 4 Sep 2008, 09:03)
- nu-mi place rama
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rama trebuia sa fie un gradient dar inca-s stangaci in ale photoshopului... sper sa nu mai fiu mult timp biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Ov @ 4 Sep 2008, 09:03)
- s-a intamplat ceva nasol la resize ca se vede de zici ca-i screen capture de pe un VHS biggrin.gif
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Oricum aparatul are zgomot (e un bridge), apoi prelucrarea a mai adaugat si ea iar micsorarea a pus capac... 'Om lua si-un SLR dar deocamdata sa invatam sa incadram...

QUOTE(Ov @ 4 Sep 2008, 09:03)
P.S. mi se pare mie sau sunt 2 poze suprapuse unsure.gif
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Nope, e o singura poza, desaturat canalul de galben si puse niste gradiente negre peste...

S-ar putea sa ti se para suprapusa din cauza faptului ca floarea pare nefocalizata. Ea e focalizata si marginile-s destul de sharp dar rosul ala f puternic a ars-o, a ars detaliile...


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am zis ca-s suprapuse pt ca am vazut artefacte de jur imprejurul florii. Parea taiata din alta poza si pusa peste aici. Oricum, poza/ideea e misto, la prelucrare tb sa te mai joci nitel.

Daca vrei SLR, vezi ca 350d-ul s-a ieftinit FOARTE mult (SH, evident). Daca nu vrei sa investesti (pt inceput) multi bani, il recomand cu caldura.


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