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post 7 Jan 2009, 10:27
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post 7 Jan 2009, 10:28
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ca ala micu nu stie engleza.


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post 7 Jan 2009, 10:32
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Si eu am o dilema.
Care-i diferenta dintre un set de calorifere electrice si o centrala electrica? nedumerire.gif

Hai, sa zicem, in wati.


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post 7 Jan 2009, 10:32
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eficienta, randament, estetica, apa calda..in favoarea centralei. Centrala pe curent foloseste calorifere clasice..iti dai seama ca altfel repartizeaza caldura decat tinichelele alea stravezii.


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post 7 Jan 2009, 10:34
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Lasa ca se termina criza imediat. Ia uitati-va ce zice la meteo :

Vremea se incalzeste dupa 15 ianuarie. In februarie temperaturile vor depasi 15 grade in sudul tarii.


http://www.hotnews.ro/stiri-esential-53018...sudul-tarii.htm


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post 7 Jan 2009, 10:34
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QUOTE(argon @ 7 Jan 2009, 10:28)
ca ala micu nu stie engleza.
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Eh, se descurca si in ruseste.
Davai gaz?


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post 7 Jan 2009, 11:39
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QUOTE(argon @ 12 Jun 2008, 11:15)
Tinand cont ca vrei pe 220, nu o sa ai prea mare randament, dar la trifazat se consuma 1 kW energie electrica pentru ~1 kW energie termica. Oricum e o modalitate scumpa de incalzire(de cateva ori mai scump decat gazul), eu m-as gandi la o centrala pe combustibil solid (lemne/carbuni)
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QUOTE(ady77 @ 12 Jun 2008, 11:29)
De cate ori?
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QUOTE(argon @ 12 Jun 2008, 11:29)
3 ori, maxim 4 ori.
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QUOTE(argon @ 7 Jan 2009, 07:34)
Eu iau in calcul o centrala electrica monofazata la terminarea duratei de viata a actualei pe gaz, care are vreo 5 ani. Costul achizitiei nu e exagerat, si al exploatarii e mai mic sau egal ca la gaz, plus ca are si 99% randament.
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S-a schimbat ceva din iunie 2008 pana in ianuarie 2009 si eu nu stiu?


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post 7 Jan 2009, 11:40
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da, am studiat problema. Am dat mai departe ce am auzit, fara sa verific. La o privire mai atenta, renteaza.


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post 7 Jan 2009, 11:45
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Ba ady77, da' il vanezi pe argonel, nu gluma. Daca ai retinut ce tampenii a spus prin iulie inseamna ca te-a marcat rau de tot. biggrin.gif tongue.gif


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post 7 Jan 2009, 11:46
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da' cat o fi cautat el.. radmasa.gif


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post 7 Jan 2009, 11:47
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Nu il vanez, doar ca ma interesa/intereseaza subiectul si de aceea am retinut. Ca trebuie sa incalzesc o casa de cca 240 m2, intro zona fara gaze, iar lemnul nu prea ma coafeaza intrucat pe mine ma caracterizeaza lenea tongue.gif biggrin.gif


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post 7 Jan 2009, 11:48
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pai aici e problema, la suprafata aia e posibil sa iesi mai scump, la un apartament de 50-60 mp iesi cam la fel, pentru ca stiu pe cineva care si-a pus in intervalul din iunie pana acu.


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post 7 Jan 2009, 11:50
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post 7 Jan 2009, 11:50
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Da, dar casa are ziduri de 40cm si izolatie de polistiren de 10cm.


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post 7 Jan 2009, 11:59
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Cred ca nu conteaza izolatia casei la randamentul tipului sursei de incalzire.

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post 7 Jan 2009, 12:00
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randamentul e peste 99%(99,5, 99,6) la orice centrala electrica. La gaz parca e 90-92 %?!


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post 7 Jan 2009, 12:11
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Cred ca nu conteaza izolatia casei la randamentul tipului sursei de incalzire.
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Izolatia casei conteaza la cate ore/zi functioneaza centrala, izolatie mai buna, centrala functioneaza mai putin, consum mai mic, cost mai mic in exploatare. Dar cam stricam topicul omului tongue.gif


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post 7 Jan 2009, 12:13
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nu stricam nimic, discutiile despre solutii alternative cand rusi taie gazu sunt bune.


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post 7 Jan 2009, 12:14
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Nu conteaza cand comparam diverse surse de incalzire, asta spuneam. De contat normal ca conteaza.


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post 7 Jan 2009, 12:17
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Parerea mea, care este, ca rusii se cearta cu Ucraina la misto ca sa mai arate un pic pisica europei, sa nu se mai incordeze asa tare. Ca dupa cate am inteles singura tara care nu e afectata e chiar Ucraina, impotriva careia cica a luat masuri Rusia.


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post 7 Jan 2009, 12:26
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Adriean Videanu: Am declarat stare de urgență blink.gif

Daca nu glumeste, sa lecturam Ordonanta de urgenta Nr. 1 din 21 ianuarie 1999 privind regimul starii de asediu si regimul starii de urgenta.

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QUOTE(vijelie @ 7 Jan 2009, 12:26)
Adriean Videanu: Am declarat stare de urgență  blink.gif
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post 7 Jan 2009, 12:30
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QUOTE(realitatea)
Astfel, achizițiile de cărbune se pot face prin negocieri directe, și nu prin lucitație, așa cum prevede legea.


Incepe furaciunea(nu ca ar fi incetat vreodata).


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post 7 Jan 2009, 12:32
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Art. 5
Starea de asediu se poate institui pe o perioadă de cel mult 60 de zile, iar starea de urgență, pe o perioadă de cel mult 30 de zile.

Deci peste o luna o sa avem gaze. rolleyes.gif

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post 7 Jan 2009, 12:32
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Deci ieri aveam provizii de gaz pentru 6 luni si azi cumparam carbuni fara licitatie radmasa.gif radmasa.gif


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post 7 Jan 2009, 12:34
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Bai ce bulan (noroc) are Videanu asta!
A facut bani 4 ani in Bucuresti iar acum se scoate si cu criza gazelor.


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Razboiul gazelor: Rusia a oprit complet livrarile catre Romania

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post 7 Jan 2009, 12:54
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OK,sunt cam in urma...scuze.


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Nu face nimic. Acum spala-te pe ochi si baga-te in adapostul antiatomic al cladirii, urmeaza achizitii de stat deosebit de periculoase pentru contribuabili!


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