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post 3 Apr 2009, 10:02
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ma cert cu colegu de camera pe tema "cati cai putere are o Dacia berlina/break (acelasi kkt) injectata"... el zice ca 75 hp / 55 kW (asa ii zice in talon)... si eu nu cred... este adevarat? asta ar insemna ca are cat un Logan dizal... ceea ce imi da o parere si mai proasta despre dizaluri (nu ca as avea cine stie ce parere buna despre ele...)

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post 3 Apr 2009, 10:29
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A mea 1397cmc are 62cp. wink.gif


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post 3 Apr 2009, 11:14
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Daca in talon scria Mercedes... avea Mercedes?

Dacia 1310 are 45kw, adica vreo 60 - 62 cai. Injectata sau nu.


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post 3 Apr 2009, 11:26
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pei ma miram io, ca am manualu de reparatie, in care zice 62hp, ma rog, e motoru pe carburatie, dar din cate stiu eu injectia nu creste puterea, are alte beneficii...


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post 3 Apr 2009, 11:27
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cu motorul 1.4 are 60cp (fata de 62 cat are aia pe carburator)
cu 1.6 nu stiu


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post 3 Apr 2009, 11:30
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1.6 cica ar avea 72hp, dar nu stiu daca este vorba de carburatie sau injectie, probabil carburatie ca e destul de vechi manualu'


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post 3 Apr 2009, 11:30
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Da' oricum nici 15 cai in plus n-are deci...


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post 3 Apr 2009, 11:33
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post 3 Apr 2009, 11:37
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M-am uitat acum in talon si sunt 46 kw. tongue.gif sofer1.gif


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post 3 Apr 2009, 11:40
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aaaaa, tampesc, un cal putere cati kilowatti inseamna?? din cate stiu io 1hp=1.35kW sau ceva de genu unsure.gif


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post 3 Apr 2009, 13:12
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kW = Cp x 0.7457 sau Cp = kW x 1.341



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post 3 Apr 2009, 13:30
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QUOTE(SSilent @ 3 Apr 2009, 10:02)
asta ar insemna ca are cat un Logan dizal... ceea ce imi da o parere si mai proasta despre dizaluri (nu ca as avea cine stie ce parere buna despre ele...)
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pe asta de unde ai scos-o?? loganul diesel are 70cp sau 85cp, loganul de 1.4 benzina are 55kw.
iar legat de "tractorase", nici eu nu sunt fan, dar nici chiar asa. un motor diesel aspirat produce foarte putini cai, respectiv nm. de exemplu motorul diesel de pe solenza/pick-up care are 62cp si 120nm. la diesel turbina face diferenta, comparat cu o benzinara aspirata, ca lumea in general nu prea se pricepe si asta compara. comparat cu un motor otto turbo, lucrurile se schimba un pic... mai mult.

legat de dacie 1.6 eu stiu ca avea 72cp aia cu dublucarburator, pe injectie nu stiu cat are. poate gasesti vreun user cu un pick-up 1.6i, ca sa-ti spuna kw din talon, dar eu cred ca tot 72cp are


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post 3 Apr 2009, 13:36
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1.6 GTi de Nova are tot 72CP.


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post 3 Apr 2009, 14:06
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QUOTE(AR-18-MOS @ 3 Apr 2009, 13:12)
kW = Cp x 0.7457 sau Cp = kW x 1.341
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QUOTE(slider2 @ 3 Apr 2009, 13:30)
pe asta de unde ai scos-o?? loganul diesel are 70cp sau 85cp, loganul de 1.4 benzina are 55kw.
iar legat de "tractorase", nici eu nu sunt fan, dar nici chiar asa. un motor diesel aspirat produce foarte putini cai, respectiv nm. de exemplu motorul diesel de pe solenza/pick-up care are 62cp si 120nm. la diesel turbina face diferenta, comparat cu o benzinara aspirata, ca lumea in general nu prea se pricepe si asta compara. comparat cu un motor otto turbo, lucrurile se schimba un pic... mai mult.
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nu stiu de ce traiam cu impresia ca dizalu ala slab avea 75hp, in fine, deci raman 62hp... gata, m-am lamurit
si cat despre turbine, nu numai la dizal fac ele diferenta wink.gif anyway nu are rost sa incepem sa aberam benzina vs. dizal ... fiecare cu ce-i place


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post 3 Apr 2009, 14:58
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Dizalu ala slab de pe Logan avea 65 CP, apoi urmeaza 70 si 85.


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post 13 Apr 2009, 18:30
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1,4 =55hp


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post 14 Apr 2009, 00:26
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Nu e corecta egalitatea ta! 1,4 ce?


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post 14 Apr 2009, 00:44
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QUOTE(AR-18-MOS @ 3 Apr 2009, 14:12)
kW = Cp x 0.7457 sau Cp = kW x 1.341
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Invers


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post 14 Apr 2009, 00:55
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QUOTE(ag02cws @ 14 Apr 2009, 00:44)
QUOTE(AR-18-MOS @ 3 Apr 2009, 13:12)

kW = Cp x 0.7457 sau Cp = kW x 1.341
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Invers
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post 14 Apr 2009, 01:09
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1 kW = 1000 W
1 CP = 736 W


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post 14 Apr 2009, 01:17
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Asa si ?

AR-18-MOS se refera la faptul ca numarul de CP ii afli inmultind numarul de kW cu 1.31

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post 14 Apr 2009, 01:27
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Post sters.

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post 14 Apr 2009, 01:49
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QUOTE(Shush @ 14 Apr 2009, 02:17)
Asa si ?

AR-18-MOS se refera la faptul ca numarul de CP ii afli inmultind numarul de kW cu 1.31
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Asta e altceva. Eu intelesesem 1 kW = 1 CP x 1.31. Oricum, nici asa nu e corect pt ca valoarea in CP se afla inmultind valoarea in kW cu 1.358.


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