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post 1 May 2009, 10:03
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Pandemia de gripa din 1918-1920 (asa-numita gripa spaniola, care a facut 100 milioane de victime) era tot o tulpina de Influenza A de tip H1N1. Viitorul suna bine... Hapciu! blush.gif 38.gif


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post 1 May 2009, 10:46
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Ai uitat sa mentionezi care era populatia planetei atunci. Evident, era mult mica, deci nr de victime este cu atat mai mare.


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post 2 May 2009, 17:18
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Ca solutie impotriva acestei pandemii eu vad doar izolarea. Cand o sa ajunga si la noi, ca o sa ajunga, iau frumos cortu' in spate, merg cu rabla pana la baza muntelui si doua luni de zile n-auziti de mine. radmasa.gif


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post 2 May 2009, 18:03
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Te vede ursu si apoi n-o sa fie prea bine pentru tine.

Stau si ma gandesc....oamenii nu mai mor si de la gripa normala?

300-400 victime la o populatie de 6 miliarde nu mi se pare mult.


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post 2 May 2009, 20:56
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un sistem imunitar bun nu are ce sa discute cu gripa. eu n-am mai racit de ani buni...


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post 2 May 2009, 21:08
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aa...deci tu rezisti si la gripa porcina?

acum depinde de atacator
dc virusul HIV nu e recunoscut de organism? pt ca isi schimba constant caracteristicile..deci pana declaseaza organismul reactia, el deja e altul, deghizat, deci nu il mai gaseste(explicatie sa priceapa toti)

explica si asta aici un pic http://science.hotnews.ro/stiri-stiintele_...-poate-face.htm

totusi vreau sa mentionez :
virusii e plural pt virus informat
virusuri e plural pt virus biologic


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post 3 May 2009, 10:58
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QUOTE(Mirciulik @ 2 May 2009, 18:03)
Stau si ma gandesc....oamenii nu mai mor si de la gripa normala?

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40 de mii de oameni mor anual in urma gripei (de toate tipurile) in UE. (in medie)


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post 3 May 2009, 11:00
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40 de mii? Sincer, daca ai spune 40, mi s-ar parea enorm! 40 de mii...


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post 3 May 2009, 11:05
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Statistica auzita la unul din reportajele Euronews.


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post 4 May 2009, 16:51
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QUOTE(tkx @ 2 May 2009, 22:56)
un sistem imunitar bun nu are ce sa discute cu gripa. eu n-am mai racit de ani buni...
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Hehe, in pandemia din 1918 mureau pe capete tocmai tinerii cu sistem imunitar puternic. Pentru ca se murea de fapt dintr-o reactie necontrolata a sistemului imunitar indusa de virusul gripei.

In general, gripa normala are o rata de mortalitate de <1% din cei infectati. Si acestia sunt de regula persoane cu imunitate compromisa (batrani, copii mici, suferinzi de alte boli). In aceste cazuri se moare de fapt din suprainfectii carora gripa le-a deschis usa.

Dar din cand in cand apare cate o tulpina care e capabila sa omoare ea insusi, prin efecte directe sau reactie necontrolata a sistemului imunitar. Acestea pot avea rate a mortlaitatii de >10% (cum a fost in 1918).

Sigur ca azi ne putem trata mai bine (cel putin in lumea bogata), dar si caile de raspandire sunt mult mai multe (transporturi rapide si aglomeratii urbane mari), si credeti-ma: niciun oras din lume nu are spitale pregatite sa trateze deodata 50% din populatie!


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post 4 May 2009, 19:56
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Nu stiu ce sa zic.... sa nu cumva sa fie iar doar vorba de politica ca in alte cazuri.....oricum e bine sa avem grija!


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