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post 7 Apr 2010, 08:54
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probabil castrol long life 5w30 ? eeh, a incurcat un pic tastele... wink.gif

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post 7 Apr 2010, 09:37
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da se poate sa fie chiar ala de care spui tu


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post 12 May 2010, 15:36
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ca tot veni vorba mi-am adus aminte de ceva.
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este vorba, in principiu, de acelasi motor - E7J. numai ca la un model se da un interval, la altul alt interval iar la celalalt nici un interval... sad.gif

nu inteleg nimic...da' deloc. ce parere aveti ? o fi din pricina variantelor aceluiasi motor ? asteapta nervos.gif nedumerire.gif

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post 12 May 2010, 15:46
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Pai te uiti in manualul de utilizare si scrie acolo intervalul.


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post 12 May 2010, 15:58
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Si eu zic sa te iei tot dupa manualul de intretinere.


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post 12 May 2010, 17:26
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QUOTE(george_scala_2004 @ 12 May 2010, 15:36)
nu inteleg nimic...da' deloc. ce parere aveti ? o fi din pricina variantelor aceluiasi motor ?

Cred ca n-ar trebui manifestata o incredere totala in recomandarile producatorilor de uleiuri sub formula "oil guide". Poti lua nota dar cuvantul final e al producatorilor de motoare.

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post 13 May 2010, 10:37
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o.k. am inteles. in carnetul de intretinere, la solenza, se specifica schimbarea uleiului la fiecare 10.000 km. nu e cam mult ? eu il schimb pe la 7.000 km...


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post 13 May 2010, 11:31
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Nu. Marea majoritate a uleiurilor moderne se pot schimba de la 15 - 20.000 de kilometri in sus

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QUOTE(george_scala_2004 @ 13 May 2010, 10:37)
o.k. am inteles. in carnetul de intretinere, la solenza, se specifica schimbarea uleiului la fiecare 10.000 km. nu e cam mult ? eu il schimb pe la 7.000 km...

Daca e sintetic e prematura schimbarea la doar 7000 chiar si in regim urban.


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Nu. Marea majoritate a uleiurilor moderne se pot schimba de la 15 - 20.000 de kilometri in sus

La motoarele moderne. smile.gif


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post 13 May 2010, 14:44
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multumesc, o fi prematura da' nici sa ma trezesc cu uleiul negru ca smoala nu as vrea...

inseamna ca aralu' 10w40 de-l am acu' in motor, cu care am facut vreo 4.000 de km va trebui sa-l dau jos peste vreo 6.000 de km... blink.gif

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post 13 May 2010, 14:45
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Pai de obicei uleiul se face negru dupa vreo 3000 de km. Ce faci? Il schimbi la 3000?


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post 13 May 2010, 14:55
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daca e nevoie... icon_mrgreen.gif deocamdata este galben-maroniu...


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post 13 May 2010, 14:58
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QUOTE(Valman @ 13 May 2010, 14:48)
La motoarele moderne. smile.gif
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Motoarele de Logan, de exemplu, or fi de ultima ora.
La alea la care faci tu referire, se schimba si la 40.000.


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post 13 May 2010, 15:01
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QUOTE(george_scala_2004 @ 13 May 2010, 14:44)
inseamna ca aralu' 10w40 de-l am acu' in motor, cu care am facut vreo 4.000 de km va trebui sa-l dau jos peste vreo 6.000 de km...

Eu am tinut semisinteticul in jur de 7- 8 mii sau 1 an, iar sinteticul il tin 10 mii sau 1 an. Asta la un regim de exploatare predominant urban. Daca ai un regim de exploatare echilibrat (urban-extraurban) poti sa tii si semisinteticul 10 mii. Daca insa esti mai exigent il schimbi mai repede. Daca exigenta merita sau nu vei decide in functie de cat ai de gand sa tii masina. smile.gif N-are rost sa te arunci la uleiuri "racheta" la o masina care o dai peste cativa ani, sub 100 mii km si mult devalorizata. Investitia nu se va justifica decat daca ai de gand sa mergi cu ea pana-i cad tablele. smile.gif
QUOTE(cristio_79 @ 13 May 2010, 14:58)
Motoarele de Logan, de exemplu, or fi de ultima ora.
La alea la care faci tu referire, se schimba si la 40.000.

E topic de Logan sau...mai sus ? Daca vrei sa tii in Solenza 20000 km un ulei nu te retine nimeni. Dar trebuie spus ca fiecare motor are nevoile lui dictate atat de natura constructiva cat si de cea a exploatarii.

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post 13 May 2010, 15:16
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Eu am tinut semisinteticul in jur de 7- 8 mii sau 1 an, iar sinteticul il tin 10 mii sau 1 an.


deocamdata nu am trecut pe sintetic insa ma gindesc serios sa ii pun un 5w40, mai ales din cauza temperaturilor din iarna trecuta, cred ca tot aral, pe care sa il schimb pe la 10.000 de km...

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post 13 May 2010, 15:24
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Vezi ca Aral HighTronic 5W40 e tot semisintetic. Multa lume nu stie. Au un produs SuperTronic (parca) 0W40 si ala e sintetic. Dar deja intri la categoria uleiurilor "racheta". Mi se pare ca-i peste 60 ron litrul. smile.gif

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post 13 May 2010, 15:36
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da, asa este, tot semi. sintetic este supertronic 5w30 dar si 0w40 sau 0w30. nu ma bag la asa ceva.


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post 13 May 2010, 17:51
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QUOTE(george_scala_2004 @ 13 May 2010, 14:55)
daca e nevoie... icon_mrgreen.gif deocamdata este galben-maroniu...
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eu fac schimbul la ulei pe la 12 mii km si tot galben -maroniu il dau jos din motor...folosesc ELF Evolution SXR 5W40...


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post 9 Jun 2010, 11:39
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salutare.nu stiu daca s-a mai discutat si daca s-a discutat imi cer scuze.dar vreau sa va intreb daca stiti ceva despre uleiul SELENIA.am un prieten care pune asa ceva in alfa romeo pe benzina. e vorba despre uleiul selenia 10w40 api sl/cf acea. a3 si pe cutie scrie ca este recomandat mai multor marci de masini printre care si renault si as vrea sa stiu daca ati auzit de el si daca ar fi bun si pt solenzele noastre.la pret nu e chiar asa de scump.


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post 9 Jun 2010, 12:26
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salut, alex, wink.gif

teoretic orice ulei este bun pentru motorul de pe solenza, atit timp cit intruneste recomandarile producatorului SAE 10 W 40 API SJ. daca uleiul are specificatii superioare cu atit mai bine.
iar uleiul de care pomenesti se pare ca are specificatii superioare.

http://www.flromania.com/faq.html

bafta,

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post 9 Jun 2010, 12:38
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QUOTE(george_scala_2004 @ 9 Jun 2010, 12:26)
salut, alex, wink.gif

daca uleiul are specificatii superioare cu atit mai bine.

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gresit, nu e intotdeauna bine sa pui un ulei SM la un motor care necesita SJ. Te las pe tine sa cauti de ce ca te pricepi. Motorul de Solenta e unul vechi, cu culbutori cu patina, iti dau un indiciu , ZDDP.


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post 9 Jun 2010, 12:41
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am intrat si eu pe siteul ala si am vazut mai multe tipuri de ulei selenia acolo.eu vorbesc ce selenia 20k alfa romeo.pe cutia lui am vazut ca era mentionat si renault.deci sa inteleg ca api sl/cf este superior fata de api sj?


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post 9 Jun 2010, 12:49
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cum spuneam, nu e bine sa fie nici prea superior, daca pui un ulei modern facut pentru motoare moderne eventual euro5, SM sa zicem, unui motor invechit tehnic, ce necesita SJ, nu-i face bine.


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post 9 Jun 2010, 13:53
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hmm, inseamna ca aralul meu 10w40 care are clasificatia ACEA A3, B3; API SL /CF nu este bun ? blink.gif sau liqui-moly Top Tec 4100 5 W-40 cu clasificatie ACEA A3-04/B4-04/C3-04; API SM/CF sau aral 5w40 cu clasificatie ACEA A3 / B4 , B3 - Issue 2002API SL /CF pe care intentionam sa le utilizez NU SINT BUNE PENTRU MOTORUL DE PE SOLENZA MEA ? blink.gif wacko.gif inseamna ca imi mai ramine o singura optiune: mobil super 3000 5w40 cu specificatii api SM/SL/SJ/CF ACEA A3/B3/B4 ?


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post 9 Jun 2010, 14:02
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Daca mai ieftin decat Elf e bun. Altfel nu are rost sa arunci banii pe fereastra.



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post 9 Jun 2010, 14:08
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wow, elfu' nu are decit ulei sl si sm...inseamna ca nu e recomandat pentru solenza ?


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Daca mai ieftin decat Elf e bun. Altfel nu are rost sa arunci banii pe fereastra.


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post 9 Jun 2010, 14:28
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aral 10w40 20 lei/l 5w40 30 lei/l. arunc sau nu banii degeaba ? icon_mrgreen.gif


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post 9 Jun 2010, 14:47
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Eu am aruncat banii pe un Total Quartz 9000 5W-40, 105 lei 3 litri.
Daca mai zic ca am aruncat banii si pe 4 litri de Mobilube 1 SHC 75W-90, cam 48 lei/l, o sa-mi sara lumea in cap.

A, uitasem, d-aia a sarit si berlina de 200.000 km fara interventii majore la motor ( doar un set de segmenti pe la 160.000 sau 180.000 ca se sparsese un segment de pe pistonul 1 ), ca am folosit ulei de care nu trebuia, adica 5W-40 si 10W-40.


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post 9 Jun 2010, 14:52
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ai grija ca se supara argon radmasa.gif icon_mrgreen.gif wink.gif


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