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krapcarasu
post 22 Jun 2010, 16:06
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de asta am pus si eu, ca sunt proaste contactele, am pus cu releu de far


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QUOTE(iuliano_smile @ 22 Jun 2010, 14:29)
Of...de cenu puneti un releu nu imi dau seama...k aia papa lejer 5-10 amperi....

Si venind vorbade buton.....asa aveam eu la skoda ca nu mai mergea cotnactul de la demaror bine radmasa.gif
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buna idee!:D

22 Jun 2010, 19:15:
As vrea sa imi modific totusi pornirea,in loc de 2 butoane daca ar fii doar unu ? aici nu mai stiu ce modificare sai fac,la Toyota auris a lu mama porneste dintrun singur buton


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Aveti idee cam ce curent maxim trece prin contacul (cu cheie al) masinii?
Vreau sa stiu ce releu sa caut in locul lui...


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post 22 Jun 2010, 20:10
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am in seara asta treaba cu masina o sa iti masor eo ce curent trece prin el cand merge motoru,


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post 22 Jun 2010, 21:01
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Vrei (daca poti) sa masori te rog si cat trece prin contact in clipa in care pornesti
masina?

Adica atunci cand actionezi electromotorul din cheia de contact ca sa pornesti motorul.
Banuiesc ca suge destul de mult bobina (electromagnetul) de pe electromotor.

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post 22 Jun 2010, 22:06
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asta intrebam si eu . Am desfacut releul tip far si cam face arc electric puternic pe deschiderea circuitului cu starterul ,nu stiu cat tine, pe el scrie 30 A dar nu cred, plus ca acum sarcina e inductivabp.JPG ( Size: 11.03k ) Number of downloads: 658

eu asa am pus, in paralel cu contactul cheii spre starter
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post 22 Jun 2010, 22:34
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Are cineva idee cum masor curentul (intensitatea curentului) prin contactul
masinii, cu un multimetru electronic chinezesc, d-ala de 20 de lei?

Din cate vag imi amintesc se face un șunt, dar nu mai stiu alte detalii...


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Pe scala de 10 amperi pus in serie. Aduca nu iti indica sa faci treaba pentru ca ia foc aparatul de masura.
Monteaza un releu de far, dau cauta eaglemaster relee. Sunt foarte bune. Pune unul din acela si no problem dupa aceea.


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post 22 Jun 2010, 22:58
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QUOTE(iuliano_smile @ 22 Jun 2010, 22:45)
[...] Aduca nu iti indica sa faci treaba[...]
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QUOTE(iuliano_smile @ 22 Jun 2010, 22:45)
Monteaza un releu de far, dau cauta eaglemaster relee. Sunt foarte bune. Pune unul din acela si no problem dupa aceea.
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Am un releu Ford de 70A... oare tine? Asta ar insemna 70Ax12V=840W. Sa consume
atat electromagnetul de pe electromotor? Nu cred. Il suspectez de vreo 100-200W
maxim, adica pana in 20A. Eh, mergea si un releu de 30A.

22 Jun 2010, 23:05:
Am un boton (intrerupator) rotund pentru actionarea electromotorului, tip buton de
sonerie (sau claxon) - cat il tii apasat, atata timp lasa curentul sa treaca...

Vreau sa-l prind intr-o chestie de tabla... dar... nu am burghie decat maxim 10 (sau
12?!), iar diametrul lui e undeva pe la 20-30mm. Cum fac sa-i fac o gaura in tabla aia
unde sa poata fi prins? wacko.gif intrebare.gif asteapta nervos.gif nedumerire.gif

Parca vad ca-mi ziceti sa dau mai multe gauri...

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post 22 Jun 2010, 23:36
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bai nene da' terminati odata cu subiectu asta....numai la aston am vazut sistemul asta cu buton da' in aston nu intri cu alt set de chei tot de dacie !!!
cred ca subiectul asta ar trebui mutat la cafenea,da' nici acolo !!!
titlul sectiunii unde postati voi se numeste IMBUNATATIRI CLT ....sincer......

LE apropo...banuiesc ca stiti asta : cu butonul ala montat nu mai treceti de ITP,si asa s-au intensificat controalele RAR pe strazi si numai dacii opresc astia...s-au pus rau pe treba,ridica certificatele la greu....
puneti-i si contact general,de ala cu maner ca la basculanta radmasa.gif

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post 23 Jun 2010, 01:45
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bai nene da' terminati odata cu subiectu asta....numai la aston am vazut sistemul asta cu buton[...]
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post 23 Jun 2010, 08:41
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post 23 Jun 2010, 16:51
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De ce sa nu treci ma itp smile.gif) a mare lucru in 5 min imi pun contactu la loc,si butonul pentru start il leg in pararel:))
sa vedem cemi zice atunci itp

23 Jun 2010, 16:53:
a si maine pe la ora 12 cand vin o sa intru pe forum sa va zic ce curent trece atunci cand e contactu pus, cand actionezi electro motoru, si cand e motorul pornit e bine asa ?

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post 23 Jun 2010, 18:28
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Baieti vad ca la buton vati gandit dar la voice control, vati gandit....?!
ar fi misto sa vedem si o dacie sa aiba asa ceva smile.gif

Cat despre tema topicului, exact ca in reclama de mai jos:
HOLOGRAMA zici...?! Unde te crezi aici ba baiatule, razboiu stelelor...?!


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post 23 Jun 2010, 18:43
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Imi trebuie un buzzer care sa stie sa nu mai cante cand a pornit motorul...

Buzzer-ul va ciripi cand este contactul pus si motorul oprit. Cum a pornit
motorul, se opreste buzzeru'. De asemenea, buzzeru' se opreste cand iau
contactul.

Aveti idee cum fac treaba asta?


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post 23 Jun 2010, 19:25
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O varianta cu releu.Sper sa te ajute.

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post 23 Jun 2010, 20:09
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la schema asta dupa actionarea releului acesta mentine demarorul actionat.
Legi buzzer-ulul intre +contact si manocontactul de ulei cu o dioda


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post 23 Jun 2010, 20:49
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La cat sunt de handicapat in electronica n-am priceput nimic din schema...

Ce NC si NO?


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post 23 Jun 2010, 21:15
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nu e nevoie de schema, legi buzzer-ul intre +contact si manocontactul de ulei

din schema
nc= normal inchis(normaly closed)
no=normal deschis(normaly opened)
daca punem o dioda lucreaza si schema dar daca nu porneste sau se opreste ,cat timp contactul e pus nu suna


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Uitasem de dioda.Daca se pune e ok.Postez iar schema.

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nu e buna schema va ramine actionat releul atita timp cit este contactul pus , cel mai bine cu manocontactul de presiune de ulei

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Ar trebui sa va puneti din astea http://www.4tuning.ro/magazin/Diverse-78/P...ng-id-8368.html .


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ar trebui sa puneti si 2 turbine garet din care una sa mearga in permanenta si una sa se deschida la actionareA unui buton din panoul racing da la bordul wrc-ului DACIA pe care il detineti !!!

aaaa....m-ar interesa si pe mine cum pot sa adaptez motorul+ turbina unui aspirator vechi rusesc pe admisie si sa il pot actiona de la bord...ce releu imi trebuie ca sa nu parlesc lamele din intrerupator ??? excl.gif electronistii de aici ar trebui sa sara pe mine acum biggrin.gif

si o sigla de aston sa imi pun pe capota ... radmasa.gif radmasa.gif radmasa.gif sau macar inscriptia "NIKE"...

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QUOTE(iuliano_smile @ 23 Jun 2010, 23:28)
Ar trebui sa va puneti din astea http://www.4tuning.ro/magazin/Diverse-78/P...ng-id-8368.html .
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Yep! 3 milion juma'... pe ce? Nu mai bine il fac eu cu maxim 50roni? Ca nu ma dau banii afar' din casa... tongue.gif biggrin.gif blush.gif


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QUOTE(dacia_slk @ 23 Jun 2010, 18:43)
Imi trebuie un buzzer care sa stie sa nu mai cante cand a pornit motorul...

Buzzer-ul va ciripi cand este contactul pus si motorul oprit. Cum a pornit
motorul, se opreste buzzeru'. De asemenea, buzzeru' se opreste cand iau
contactul.

Aveti idee cum fac treaba asta?
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nu e buna schema va ramine actionat releul atita timp cit este contactul pus , cel mai bine cu manocontactul de presiune de ulei
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I mai studiaza sa vezi ca e buna wink.gif .
Cat timp contactu e pus si motorul oprit va suna buzzerul.Imediat ce se porneste masina se automentine releul, prin contactul NO,decuplant contactul NC si deconectand buzzerul.Cand masina e oprita,cade alimentarea, pica contactul si se va oprii buzzerul.

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post 24 Jun 2010, 09:33
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se tranforma topicul in bascalie...
eu am pus start buton de nevoie, am schimbat 3 parti electrice si nu tin mult, poate imi ia curent prea mare; de asta intreb ce curent trece prin traseul spre starter?


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E clar ca ai o problema.Cel mai bine ar fi sa masori curentul cu un cleste ampermetric,asa vezi exact ce curent ia si poti sa dimensionezi corect partile electrice montate ulterior.


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Sa stii ca mai bine iti faci singur panou ala,si cu maxim 50 roni iese ceva asemanator
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Am releele, intrerupatoarele, papucii necesari - ba nu, cred ca-mi lipesec 1 sau 2, tre'
sa cumpar...

Nu am buzzeru', imi lipsesc niste leduri de mai multe culori si rezistente pentru leduri,
nu am material din care sa fac panoul. Nu am ciocan de lipit, fludor am, nu am pasta
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Mai aman o tara chestia asta, ca nu prea am malai pe moment...


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Eu am 2 intrerupatoare cu protectie, unul pt accesorii, celaalt pt contact motor + buton start pe demaror. Contactul e printr-un sertar. Si daca cineva crede ca-mi poate porni masina, il astept sa tinem un mic pariu, ca-mi plac banii nemunciti radmasa.gif
Pt cine vrea sa monteze, e mai comod si mai chic smile.gif Trebuie pus releu pe fiecare buton, altfel se strica butoanele in 2-3 luni. Relee se monteaza cele de far.

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