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Foarte tare tura voasta. Eu astept cu interes podul Oresund. Din ce am vazut, cred ca ai trecut pe el. Pana la Oresund, ca tot vorbeam de soarele care nu apune prin tarile nordice, am inteles ca este nasol rau de tot sa bei intr-o seara intr-o carciuma de la subsol si apoi, cand iesi afara si vezi ca e lumina, te impacientezi aiurea ca ai baut ca animalu' pana dimineata.

Foarte tare tura voasta.
Eu astept cu interes podul Oresund.
Din ce am vazut, cred ca ai trecut pe el.

Pana la Oresund, ca tot vorbeam de soarele care nu apune prin tarile nordice, am inteles ca este nasol rau de tot sa bei intr-o seara intr-o carciuma de la subsol si apoi, cand iesi afara si vezi ca e lumina, te impacientezi aiurea ca ai baut ca animalu' pana dimineata.

N-am fost chiar non-stop cu covrigul ... dar a fost ceva de pedalat asa e

Vine si podul ... dar mai intai Stockholm
Sincer nu am experimentat faza cu pivnita dar e intr-adevar ciudat, e adevarat totusi ca stiam la ce sa ma astept, dar asa putin tot are influente negative in prima parte ... sa vezi cum la 11 noaptea farurile nici nu se vad pe sosea e ciudat; sa vezi ca e 11 noapte si ca iti este somn dar soarele e sus iarasi e ciudat. Dar vine si reversul medaliei ... cand e intuneric, e intuneric de nu ai ce face . As vrea sa vad si partea aia din an.

Ziua 9:

In aceasta zi atractia principala a fost orasul Stockholm.
Am plecat din Gavle pe la 11:00 si pe la 13:00 eram deja cu masinile parcate undeva in centru. Intr-o parcare subterana. De la Gavle la Stockholm e autostrada.

In acest oras am decis sa facem turul "complet" cu busul turistic. Busul are trei trasee prin oras (cel pe care l-am luat noi, din cate am vazut cel mai mare); unul are optional si o plimbare cu vaporasul; pe fiecare circuit ai posibilitatea sa cobori in statie si sa vizitezi/sa te plimbi si apoi sa urci in alt bus. Biletul e pentru doua zile (parca) si costa aprox. 25euro de caciula (pentru toate liniile). O ruta completa dureaza intre 1:15 - 2:00 ore, in functie de trafic si cat de repede conduce soferul [unul ne-a impresionat prin startul de la semafor ]. Noi am mers pe taoate rutele + vaporas. Am stat vreo 6-7 ore dar acum repede nu mai stiu cat am platit la parcare.

Pozele sunt de prin oras ... de pe lac etc. Riga si Stockholm sunt orasele (din aceasta tura) in care mi-ar fi placut mult sa mai avem timp de stat inca cel putin o zi. Data viitoare

Bine-nteles si aici "autostrada" te poate duce pana in centrul orasului. E foarte ciudat totusi - ai sosele suspendate, poduri peste poduri, tunele etc. si totusi nu arata urat deloc

Dupa bus ne-am si plimbat vreo ora asa prin oras prin zona pietonala .

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Nu pare interesant. Si totusi de ce as mai fi stat aici in plus si nu altundeva. In primul rand dupa vreo 5 ore in bus si cate am ascultat la casti, am simtit ca mai este ceva in plus si mai trebuie sa vad (lucru pe care nu pot sa-l sustin dupa tura in Talin). Multa stanca, apa, un parc de distractii pe o insula, dar parca e tot in centrul orasului. Poduri frumoase. Curat . Muzee diverse si interesante. Parcuri/Parculete foarte faine. Mi-a placut mult.
Nu mai stiu exact in ce an, dar Stockholm a fost numita capitala verde, sau asa ceva daca traducem ... pentru cei mai multi mp de verdeata/parc pe cap de locuitor + o zona din oras, de langa cel mai mare parc, cel pe care ne-am plimbat cu vaporasul, unde e si "casa" regala (una dintre ele) a fost declarata zona protejata si se mandresc ca apa din lac este un dintre cele mai curate.
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Am avut si noroc, deoarece linia galbena (parca) avea traseul modificat putin la anumite ore. Noi am luat ultima cursa din zi si am vazut traseul extins. Adica ne-a dus si prin zona de ambasade (ex. casa verde de jumatate) dar si pe langa turnul de televiziune si port.

Chestia cu trei chestii din varful cladirii ... cum i se spune ? ornamentul cu trei ramuri ce simbolizeaza trei coroane ... se pare ca sunt din aur si fiecare dintre ele cantareste cat o masina mica. Cel putin asa a povestit nenea din casti . Da e apropiat foarte mult (20x optic).

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Si apoi pe jos
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Cei doi draguti din familia regala apar peste tot: poza este de pe un magnetel de frigider
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Am plecat apoi spre Jonkoping, unde aveam rezervata cazare si asa s-a vazut cerul
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Km: aprox. 500
Durata condus efectiv: aprox. 5 ore

Condus in doua etape: Gavle - Stockholm aprox. 190 km (2 ore). Stockholm - Jonkoping aprox. 310 km (3 ore).

Cazare la Ibis Jonkoping 61 euro pe noapte dubla (oferta) cu mic dejun si parcare.

This post has been edited by cmandrei: 24 Aug 2010, 16:30

Super tare excursia! E visul meu sa vizitez tarile nordice, cu siguranta intr-o zi voi ajunge si eu acolo.
Bravo pentru poze, super faine!

Multumesc

Ziua 10:

Inca o zi scurta din punct de vedere condus.
Ne-am axat cel mai mult pe vizitarea orasului Copenhaga. Din cauza unor mici neantelegeri ne-am cazat in Malmo, astfel "a trebuit" sa trecem podul de 3 ori in loc de 1 data. Dar trecem peste, asta daca v-ati fi intrebat "ce o avut in cap astia ".

Am plecat pe la 11 din Jonkoping si pe la 14 eram in Ibis la Malmo. Ne-am cazat si in vreo ora asa am plecat catre Copenhaga. Din Malmo in Copenhaga cred ca se fac 20 minute si se traverseaza stramtoarea pe podul "cel mare" .

Prima "intalnire" cu podul .

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Taxa in euro este de aprox. 40 euro. Si se poate plati cash sau cu cardul (sau treci daca ai abonament). Noi am optat pentru card.

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Pentru cei care nu stiu, podul face legatura dintre Suedia si Danemarca si este putin mai special ... de ce ? pentru ca 2/3 este peste apa si 1/3 tunel. Pentru mai multe detalii Podul Oresund

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Practic se poate spune ca e din Malmo in Copenhaga dar nu e chiar asa. Din Malmo practic se iese, direct pe autostrada, se ia iesirea catre Copenhaga. Te anunta apoi ca ai un pod in fata care costa si iti mai da dreptul o singura data se te intorci, daca ai trecut nu mai ai dreptul dar nici posibilitatea sa te intorci. Pe partea cealalta in schimb iesi chiar langa aeroport si in 3 km cred, poate chiar mai putin dai direct in semafor in oras. Ok, nu in centru dar esti in oras. Practic cred ca am mai facut vreo 10 minute pana in centru.

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Aici am parcat intr-o parcare subterana cu 5 euro pe ora. Ciudat insa trebuia sa lasi cheia la "portar" ... era un panou plin de chei ... semn ca asa se facea. Am plecat putin asa cu inima stransa dar nu s-a intamplat absolut nimic. Tu iti parcai masina unde vroiai si tot proprietarul o scotea, dar cheia ramanea. Am intrebat care e motivul = ca sa nu cumva sa dai teapa si sa vi si sa fugi cu masina fara sa platesti. Am zis ca-i dau avans dar tot nu a vrut. Nu stiu daca toate parcarile subterane de acolo sunt la fel.

Am plecat la plimbare pe jos prin Copenhaga. Eram chiar langa piata centrala si zona pietonalal; faimoasa sirena era in partea celalalta de oras (dar am mers si pana acolo tot pe jos) ... am luat o harta de la hotel si dusi am fost .

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In marginea piatetei centrale exista cladirea primariei. Vizitabila. Am intrat dar din pacate am ajuns chiar la ora de inchidere a ceasului "special" ... cu planete cu nebunii ... am luat doar o vedere cu poza ceasului . Interiorul cladirii este oricum foarte interesant . (are si o curte interioara constructia)

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La plimbare.
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Zona pietonala/strada/aleea e intesata de restaurante, magazine de "nimicuri", cofetarii, terase etc. Apropo, cred ca-i locul in care am vazut cele mai multe restaurante de tip "pay 8 euro, eat as much as you can". Strada cred ca are spre 1km lungime si 'iese' pe bulevardul ce duce catre sirena.

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Sirena ... sau piatra pe care sta sirena ... este pe malul apei langa parcul Churchill. Ca sa ajungi la ea poti trece prin parc (e dragut) sau pe margine. Noi ne-am dus prin parc si ne-am intors pe langa. Parcul e dragut deoarece in interior are asa o fosta "cazemata"/cetatuie destul de haioasa. Partea nasola ... cand am ajuns la sirena am aflat ca nu mai e in Copenhaga ci a fost dusa la o expositie in Asia asa ca am vazut piatra pe care sta defapt si un ecran pe care era redata imaginea ei.

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Dragut orasul. Curatel asa. Organizat. Dar scump rau de tot (parere personala). O alta chestie ciudata: schimb valutar = comision 11,99% - cardul a functionat ok.
Si da, parca m-as mai intoarce o data (si pe urma mai vad) pentru ceasul pe care nu l-am vazut, parcul de distractii din centru, pentru "muzeul" Ripley Belive it or not si tot asa un "muzeu" Guiness book of records ... or mai fi dar momentan atat . Practic am vazut (nu intrat) tot ceea ce s-ar fi vazut din busul turistic, doar ca pe jos . Da te dor picioarele dar e nice.

Km: aprox. 390
Durata condus efectiv: aprox. 4 ore

Condus in doua etape: Jonkoping - Malmo aprox. 290 km (3 ore) Malmo - Copenhaga - Malmo (1 ora).

Cazare la Ibis Malmo 73 euro pe noapte dubla cu mic dejun si 7 euro parcare pazita.

This post has been edited by cmandrei: 25 Aug 2010, 15:56

Foarte tare excursia si la mai multe

This post has been edited by silvik1313: 25 Aug 2010, 16:53

Multumim si speram da

Ziua 11:

Aceasta a fost o zi fara prea multe vizite. Practic se preconiza "zero vizitare" dar nu a fost chiar asa. Am plecat din Malmo la cunoscuta ora 10:30 - 11:00 catre Berlin.
Practic de aici ar fi 3 versiuni mai si late (mai multe dar ca idee) de a ajunge in Germania. Doua cu feribot si una pe sosea. Dupa multiple calcule am ales versiunea de mijloc - ca si pozitionare pe harta ... si anume: am trecut cu feribotul de la Rodbyhavn la Puttgarden.

1. Pe sosea erau aprox. 800km.
2. Versiunea noastra aprox. 615 km (cu tot cu cei facut cu feribot) sau aprox. 590 km (fara feribot).
3. Prin Rostock aprox. 420 km (fara feribot) sau 470 km (cu feribot).

Diferenta ... la Puttgarden sunt plecari non-stop din 30 in 30 minute si dureaza 45 minute calatoria. La Rostock din cate am vazut pe net plecarile au orar "mai strict" si dureaza 1:30 ore.

Bine-nteles ca am trecut din nou peste podul Oresund

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Din Malmo pana in Rodbyhavn e autostrada 100%. Ok nu e cea mai stralucita dar exista si se termina direct in portile de acces catre feribot (taxare). Pana acolo insa se mai trece un pod haios + un tunel pe sub apa [fara taxa].

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Feribotul a costat 75 euro. Dupa ce se trece de casutele de taxare se intra pe benzi numerotate, scrie pe bilet dar iti si spune persoana de la poarta. Si se asteapta culoarea verde la semafor ca sa se urce pe feribot.

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Feribot, din nou, mare/incapator, cu magazine, banca, restaurant, zona pe punte .

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In partea Germana sunt vreo 30km pe drum national cu o banda pe sens dar se merge decent, 80-90-100 km/h in coloana toti. Dar e pe malul apei si sunt zone chiar faine pe acolo (cu plaja, casute ... ).

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Pe autostrada ... ca in Germania.

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Intrarea in Berlin (din aceasta parte) e destul de faina. E un pic de mers pana in centru, noi fiind cazati la un Etap la 500-600m de Alexanderplatz.

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Dupa ce ne-am parcat masinile si ne-am cazat am plecat la o mica plimbare prin oras. Am zis ca mergem pana in Alexanderplatz dar am ajuns pana la urma la Poarta Brandenburg. Da, am urcat in turn , e foarte haios .

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Un lift urca, unul coboara. E 11 euro de persoana parca. Biletul se cumpara si apoi in functie de numarul trecut pe el mergi catre coada de la lifturi, daca numarul de pe bilet apare pe un ecran . La ora la care am mers am asteptat 1 minut sa apara numarul pe ecran. Sus poti sta cat doresti. Pentru coborare se sta la coada normal. Dar lifturile merg non-stop si fac mai putin de 1 minut.

Km: aprox. 615
Durata condus efectiv: aprox. 6 ore

Cazare la Etap Berlin Alexanderplatz 65 euro pe noapte dubla cu mic dejun si parcare.

This post has been edited by cmandrei: 25 Aug 2010, 17:38

Frumos. Si eu imi doresc acest traseu. Trebuie sa recunosc ca ma asteptam la mai mult. Pare foarte curat si ingrijit, dar...atat! Nimic deosebit in afara de preturi care sunt renumite, exceptie facand podul si Berlin!

This post has been edited by dumid: 25 Aug 2010, 17:41

Nimic deosebit ... depinde acum ce cauti sau dupa ce te uiti. Peisaje ca acolo nu prea mai gasesti in restul Europei ... o zona lipsa din aceasta ruta este zona fiordurilor Norvegiene ... tot pe langa este mai este si o sosea facuta de ei ce trece peste cateva "capete" de fiorduri pe poduri si viaducte care e iarasi foarte faina ... mai e una alta asa .

Ziua 12:

A fost o zi, linistita, cu plimbare prin Berlin si apoi cu masinuta pana in Praga.
Aveam si aici optiunea de a lua busul turistic, dar am zis ca poate e mai fain perpedes. Asa ca am plecat de la Hotel catre Alexanderplatz (turnul).

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Am stat putin in piateta sa ne holbam, dupa care am intrat intr-o biserica, chiar in "spatele" turnului. (asa cum apare in poza de mai jos)

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In drum alte chestii

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Practic eu in Berlin vroiam sa vad (cel mai important) doua chestii: zidul (ok, ce a mai ramas din el) si Brandenburg. Cum am vazut poarta cu o seara inainte, dimineata am studiat o harta si am plecat pe jos catre turn, biserica, dom si apoi catre Checkpoint Charlie de unde am luat metroul inapoi catre parcare. La plecare am trecut pe langa Biserica Bombardata (multumesc Chc de pont).

Nu departe de turn se afla si Domul din Berlin (vizitabil pana in varf/cupola) [am urcat pana sus ].

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La etajele superioare (intre biserica de jos si cupola) sunt expuse picturi, machete la Domului (din timpul constructiei, reconstructiei ... formele pe care le-a avut cladirea de-alungul timpului etc.).

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Panorama

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In subsol ....
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Asa "stanga dreapta" ...

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Oarecum in centrul orasului exista o plaja ... o terasa cu nisip

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Un fel de "monument" cu ramasite de zid
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Dupa ca am luat masina din parcare am plecat catre una dintre zonele cu cea mai mare bucata continua de zid.

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"Biserica bombardada" e chiar asa cum spune si numele si din cate am citit acolo langa ea, a fost lasata intentionat asa, pentru ca langa sa construiasca o alta biserica "futurista" (biserica, clopotnita si capela).

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In drum spre Praga (dupa ce am trecut de indicatorul ce ridica restrictia de 130km/h ) [169km/h pe GPS].

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Km: aprox. 365
Durata condus efectiv: aprox. 3,5 ore

Cazare la Hotel Ibis Mala Strana Praga 60 euro pe noapte dubla cu mic dejun si parcare.

This post has been edited by cmandrei: 26 Aug 2010, 16:13

Ziua 13:

Ultima zi de poveste, Praga.
Am plecat din Hotel pe la 11 si am parcat masina pe langa centru. Nu departe de zona pietonala. Vreo 2-3 euro cred ca am bagat in automatul de tikete parcare pentru tot atatea ore. {rau si acolo cu locurile de parcare ... si mai ales ca vezi unul liber dar nu stii ca e pictat cu albastru si nici nu scrie ce inseamna ... dar vine cate un om dragut si-ti spune "vezi ca alea sunt locuri doar pentru "praghezi" si daca lasi masina acolo ti-o vor ridica - am gasit pana la urma locuri albe}

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Ne-am dat jos si am inceput plimbarea catre si in zona pietonala.

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In zona pietonala, mai in mijloc asa, exista si o piateta cu un turn. In care bine-nteles ca am urcat . Se urca vreo trei etaje pe jos sau cu un lift, apoi cateva scari pe jos si apoi pe jos sau din nou cu un lift. Am urcat pe jos si am coborat cu liftul .

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Am continuat plimbarea in zona pietonala catre podul (pietonal) de peste Vltava . Pictori, muzica, panorama, mici chestii de cumparat etc. = aglomeratie infernala.

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Am plecat catre masini si ne-am suit pe deal la "cetatuie". Am parcat chiar langa intrare, organizata cu plata etc.
Pana acolo.

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Sus in cetate era si o nunta

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Dupa-amiaza am plecat catre Romania (TgMures). (prin Slovacia) {fumul este de la un camion }

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Km: aprox. 1100
Durata condus efectiv: aprox. 12 ore

This post has been edited by cmandrei: 27 Aug 2010, 16:45

Foarte frumos. Nu stiu ce altceva sa mai zic

Me glad u like

Inteleg ca atat a fost descrierea traseului. E bun si asa, fara finalul finalului...

FELICITARI! si la mai mare!

Felicitari Domnul Andrei,foarte frumos.

Felicitari pentru aceasta excursie minunata si multumiri pentru rabdarea pe care ai avut-o sa "redactezi" intreaga poveste. Extrem de interesant si de frumos!

multumiri pentru ca ne-ai povestit si felicitari pt asa concediu !
m-a cuprins un dor de duca...



This post has been edited by vali2: 5 Sep 2010, 17:29

Multumim mult de aprecieri.

Finalul finalului nu e pozat ... dupa Praga am plecat direct spre casa ... practic la Praga s-a terminat excursia

NO COMENT!

P.S. :Bravo ! Zzuuper tare!

Bine ai revenit Chc si Multumim

Frumos...Si pe noi ne tot bate gandul sa ajungem in tarile nordice, dar de fiecare data tot sudul ne atrage mai mult...Bravo

Multumim. Intr-adevar, vara de obicei mergi unde e mai cald asa, apa, plaja etc. ... dar am zis ca totusi trebuie sa vedem ce e acolo si merita

pur si simplu superb .. sper ca la vara sa ajung si eu pe acolo

N-am fost niciodata plecat