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post 22 Dec 2010, 21:26
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da. 1:1 cu apa distilata (adica 2 litri de solutie) rezista la -37.5 grade. simplu, cum e in bidon, rezista la -75 grade. scrie clar pe ambalaj!

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post 22 Dec 2010, 21:33
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Pai daca e etilenglicol si e concentrat n-are cum, ma uit maine pe ambalaj ca e in garaj. Scrie Glaceol RX tip D ? Si e verde ?


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post 22 Dec 2010, 21:35
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QUOTE(alindrgn @ 22 Dec 2010, 21:26)
da. 1:1 cu apa distilata (adica 2 litri de solutie) rezista la -37.5 grade. simplu, cum e in bidon, rezista la -75 grade. scrie clar pe ambalaj!
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N-ai dreptate. Antigelul fara apa rezista pe la -10° C, iar cu apa in jur de -30°C. Era un topic unde s-au contrazis. Si stiu sigur ca am dreptate.

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post 22 Dec 2010, 21:37
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mergi la metrom si convinge-te singur! dupa cum am spus, nu m-am bagat in seama in necunostinta de cauza.

da, imi amintesc ca era D, dar nu stiu de glaceol rx. e un ambalaj negru, nu cred ca il mai am ca golisem sticla.


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post 22 Dec 2010, 21:40
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La etilen-glicol:
- amestec 50% antigel 50% apa - ingheata la -37C
- amestec 70% antigel 30% apa - ingheata la -64C
- amestec 100% antigel 0 % apa - ingheata la -14C - Atentie mare.

La propilen-glicol:
- amestec 50% antigel 50% apa - ingheata la -32C
- amestec 60% antigel 40% apa - ingheata la -47C
- amestec 100% antigel 0 % apa - ingheata la -57C

Asta zicea nenea Klaus intr-un topic. Deci cel de care zici tu e propilen-glicol. Deci am avut amandoi dreptate tongue.gif


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post 22 Dec 2010, 21:41
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ala de care zic eu e 'regal' pt ca ingheata la -75 grade, nu la -57 tongue.gif
si in concentratie 1:1 la -37 nu -32.

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post 22 Dec 2010, 21:44
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Bun dar contine etilenglicol sau propilen ? Ca daca e propilen nu-l poti pune la Logan...


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post 22 Dec 2010, 21:45
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ala de care zic e cel cu care vin loganurile din fabrica. si asta ti-l recomanda si cucoanele de la magazin... alea ieftine (8-10 lei litru) nu sunt bune.


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post 22 Dec 2010, 21:49
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Eu cred ca faci o confuzie huh.gif


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post 22 Dec 2010, 21:50
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post 22 Dec 2010, 21:51
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alindrgn - GRESESTI .scrie pe enspe mii de forumuri despre antigel si punctul sau de inghet diluat sau concentrat. Documenteaza te un pic mai bine, ca in cazut de fata nu ai dreptate in ceea ce afirmi.Un antigel pur ingheatza la temperaturi apropiate de 0 grade(-4 -5 ), iar un antigel diluat spre ex 1:1 la -37 grade.

Vorbesc exact de antigelul dacia , fabricat in Belgia, doar dinala am folosit mereu
victor.vajoi -a pus temperaturile mai exacte,ca pe bidon !

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post 22 Dec 2010, 21:52
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Pai n-ai cum sa faci sa fie -75 de grade un amestec care contine etilenglicol si apa, eu stiu ca din fabrica vine 50% etilenglicol si 50% apa si rezista la ~ 37 grade minus.
Pune maine poza ca m-ai facut curios...


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post 22 Dec 2010, 21:54
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QUOTE(ovidiu87 @ 22 Dec 2010, 21:51)
alindrgn - GRESESTI .scrie pe enspe mii de forumuri despre antigel si punctul sau de inghet diluat sau concentrat. Documenteaza te un pic mai bine, ca in cazut de fata nu ai dreptate in ceea ce afirmi.Un antigel pur ingheatza la temperaturi apropiate de 0 grade(-4 -5 ), iar un antigel diluat spre ex 1:1 la -37 grade.

Vorbesc exact de antigelul dacia , fabricat in Belgia, doar dinala am folosit mereu
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am avut bidonul in mana. crezi ca nu stiu ce vad? dry.gif

LE: despre asta vorbesc.

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post 22 Dec 2010, 21:57
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poate or fi gresit eticheta la bidonul tau(75 in loc de 57)

in rest toti avem altceva !

Uite aici poze cu bidonul asta, si pe spate si pe fatza , unde scrie 75 ?



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post 22 Dec 2010, 22:00
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post 22 Dec 2010, 22:00
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QUOTE(alindrgn @ 22 Dec 2010, 21:45)
ala de care zic e cel cu care vin loganurile din fabrica. si asta ti-l recomanda si cucoanele de la magazin... alea ieftine (8-10 lei litru) nu sunt bune.
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Eu dintr-asta am, nu are nimic. Doar ca e facut prin RO si are un pret mai mic, nu cred ca il face prost.

PS: tot cu asta de 8 lei voi completa biggrin.gif


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post 23 Dec 2010, 00:48
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Mda. Am sticla de GLACEOL despre care se vorbeste in fata. Pe ea scrie clar: A se utiliza diluat cu apa distilata. Pentru diluare 1-1 rezulta rezistanta la -37 grade. In nici un caz nu scrie "A se utiliza nediluat"

1. Nediluat fiind atat de vascos te-ai gandit cat de mult scurtezi viata pompei de apa ?

2. Nediluat in loc sa bagi 2 litri de antigel si 2 de apa, bagi 4 de antigel? ca si cost este rentabil?

3. Mai cauta pe forum ca nu este doar o singura opinie ca antigelul pur rezista doar la -14 grade. Nu sunt chimist, dar dupa lunga experienta de soferie iti spun ca nu am auzit sa pui antigel concentrat NEDILUAT.

4. De acord ca ai schimbat termostatul, esti pe aproape de tema, dar nu fi asa sigur ca ai dreptate. Si mai ales daca este o discutie unde ne spunem parerile nu te contrazi la infinit. Daca era recomandat asa scria Dacia : se foloseste doar antigel GLACEOL PUR !

5. In fond fiecare asculta si ia de bune sfaturile cui vrea

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post 23 Dec 2010, 08:00
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Pana va hotarati ce antigel puneti ... vine primavara.


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QUOTE(Ion_R5 @ 22 Dec 2010, 14:07)
(IN NICI UN CAZ NU DESFACETI BUSONUL IMEDIAT DUPA OPRIREA MOTORULUI SI CAT TIMP ESTE FIERBINTE)
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Ca stii tu mai bine, si prostii de au facut masina au scris open slowly when hot deampixu dry.gif


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post 23 Dec 2010, 08:54
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post 23 Dec 2010, 09:32
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Stati linistiti ca si ala cu 8 lei/litru are aceleasi temperaturi de inghet ca cel cu 22 ca e tot mono-etilenglicol dar problema e ca are doar colorant verde si nu are inhibitori de coroziune, de aceea s-ar putea sa corodeze partile de metal cu care vine in contact.Si cel scump se schimba dupa 2 ani nu din cauza ca nu mai rezista la inghet ci pentru ca inhibitorii de coroziune pe care ii contine isi pierd proprietatile inhibitoare in timp si devine si ala coroziv.
Deci daca aveti pierderi, pana le rezolvati puteti folosi dinala ieftin pentru o perioada scurta.

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QUOTE(alindrgn @ 22 Dec 2010, 21:54)
am avut bidonul in mana. crezi ca nu stiu ce vad? dry.gif

LE: despre asta vorbesc.
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DA.
Si doar iti pusese cineva mai sus o poza de pe spatele bidonului de Glaceol Rx Tip D.


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post 23 Dec 2010, 11:53
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Care e butonul de purjare ??? O poza ceva ?


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