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post 22 May 2011, 12:20
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QUOTE(Florinel 86` @ 21 May 2011, 22:22)
Daca lasam 3 prezoane nu puteam folosi discurile fata deoarece au 280 mm diam si nu incap jante mai mici de 15,asa ca am optat la 4 prezoane.biggrin.gif
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post 22 May 2011, 17:19
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Cu cat discul e mai mare in diametru cu atat eficienta creste la franare,asta era ideea.Si cauza pentru care am trecut la 4 prezoane.


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post 23 May 2011, 14:58
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Atunci succes si la cat mai mare.


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post 23 May 2011, 16:00
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presupun ca este un motiv foarte bun pentru care nu se trece la 5 prezone cu fuzete de papuc diesel


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post 24 May 2011, 17:14
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QUOTE(nalodaniel @ 23 May 2011, 17:00)
presupun ca este un motiv foarte bun pentru care nu se trece la 5 prezone cu fuzete de papuc diesel
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Da este, si acela ca nu se prea poate sau e foarte greu realizarea modificarii pe puntea spate.
Scuze daca am raspuns in locul initiatorului


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post 25 May 2011, 23:11
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chiar e asa de greu de facut la strung partea de butuc+flansa de prindere?

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post 25 May 2011, 23:18
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la papuc-ul D tre' sa se mai "joace" si cu cotele rulmentilor "fusului" puntii diferita fata de cea de berlina,da' diferita mult...si asta nu implica doar strung ! si ce daca e pe 4 si nu e pe 5 ?
ce-a facut el acolo se numeste smecherie curata....

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post 26 May 2011, 03:31
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nunu, nu contest nimic, intrebam doar sa-mi satisfac o curiozitate. ms de raspuns biggrin.gif

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post 26 May 2011, 21:46
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Nimic nu este imposibil de realizat numai ca asta este varianta adoptata de mine. biggrin.gif Mai atasez niste poze cu cutia de viteze ce va fi montata impreuna cu motorul.Grup 9x34 tr4 33x34 tr5 29x38

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post 26 May 2011, 22:37
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volanta de care-i ? smecherie mare cu rulment la priza.....


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post 27 May 2011, 10:44
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Volanta este a motorului care o sa-l urc pe masina,F7P.Iar la cutie i-am pus carter de ambreiaj de papuc diesel pentru a cupla cutia de motor.Si acel rulment este tot de papuc.

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post 27 May 2011, 10:47
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Ooooo, frumos. Cand il urci pe masina?


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post 28 May 2011, 00:36
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se contureaza un mic monstru in pielea unui batran r12 cool.gif


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post 28 May 2011, 07:57
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Asta e combinatia perfecta, lup in piele de oaie. Este super


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post 28 May 2011, 13:13
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cica ar fi o diferenta intre f7P si f7R..plm...

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post 28 May 2011, 16:27
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Wikipedia:The F7x was the first of the F-type engine family with a 16-valve DOHC configuration, the valves were directly actuated by Hydraulic tappets. both the 1.8l as the 2.0l were equipped with a multipoint-EFI system.
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F7P 1.8 L (1,764 cc (108 cu in), B x S: 82.0 by 83.5 millimetres (3.23 in Ś 3.29 in).
19??–1991 Renault R5 Super 5 (No official Renault references known)
1988–1997 Renault R19
1991–1996 Renault Clio
F7R 2.0 L (1,998 cc (122 cu in), B x S: 82.7 by 93.0 millimetres (3.26 in Ś 3.66 in).
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post 28 May 2011, 16:43
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Merci pentru interventie Adita,oricum si asa motoru` l-am gasit destul de greu.


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post 28 May 2011, 17:10
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F7P mi-se pare o alegere foarte buna. Cu ce ai de gand sa il alimentezi? Injectia multipunct standard sau vrei 2 orizontale? Daca il sti pe domnul Miclausu care alearga cu sportul la CNVC, avea pe un F7P doua orizontale si tragea forte bine masina, deci agndeste-te.
L.E. Stii ca cutia de Dacia este proiectata pentru 150Nm cuplu, cum te gandesti ca va rezista la un cuplu si o putere mai mare pe care le dezvolta acest motor?
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post 29 May 2011, 08:13
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Daca ai fi citit topicul ai fi vazut ca deja am ales sistemul de alimentare.Iar cat despre cutia de viteze `sa speram` ca va rezista cuplului,alta optiune momentan nu am din cauza finantelor.


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post 29 May 2011, 08:28
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rezista,parerea mea.....a rezitat cu succes la 1900 D care are cuplu mare si el....rezista !
la 1900D e aceeasi cutie doar ca diferea ce ai schimbat tu(palnia aia aka carter ambreiaj) si grupul deci nu-i bai....


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post 29 May 2011, 08:30
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QUOTE(Florinel 86` @ 24 Mar 2011, 19:07)
l F7P pe care am sa-l pun pe `baba`,o sa fie 4 Dellorto de 45 deci carburi orizontale cu filtre de aer conice,toate astea dupa ce am sa schimb la ea semiaripile si voi modifica sistemul de franare si suspensie.
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Am citit tot topicul, dar nu imi mai aminteam. Acum am gasit, dar din cate stiu eu, si cred ca pot sa ma sustina multi, Dellorto DHLA 45 este un carburator dublucorp, cu 2 camere sincron, o camera pe cilindru, eu cred ca tu ai scris gresit acolo, adica ar fi imposibil sa montezi 4 bucati, cred ca 2 carburi, in total 4 camere, fiecare pe un cilindru. Am dreptate?


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post 29 May 2011, 09:06
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Cand am scris 4 bucati m-am grabit si am scris gresit,iar daca tot suntem la capitolul alimentare am sa pun cateva poze.

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post 29 May 2011, 16:33
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Cel mai important e sa le vedem sus. up.gif


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post 29 May 2011, 20:02
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O sa fie si sus,nu-ti mai bate atat capul cu asta.


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post 29 May 2011, 20:27
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QUOTE(sobolan @ 29 May 2011, 09:28)
rezista,parerea mea.....a rezitat cu succes la 1900 D care are cuplu mare si el....rezista !
la 1900D e aceeasi cutie doar ca diferea ce ai schimbat tu(palnia aia aka carter ambreiaj) si grupul deci nu-i bai....
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Ce comparatie ti-ai gasit, cuplu mare o lae, 1.9 D are un cuplu de 128 Nm, cam cat benzinarul romanesc de 1.6.


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post 30 May 2011, 09:17
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nu stiu exact ce cuplu are monstrul ala mic radmasa.gif de motor f7p dar eu cred ca o sa reziste chiar daca banui eu ca e putin "subdimensionata" cutia aia pentru el....nu are ce pati cutia,sincer ! poate priza,dar aia e de diesel probabil deci nu cred sa pateasca ceva cutia in sine.....

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post 30 May 2011, 14:58
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QUOTE(argon @ 29 May 2011, 21:27)
Ce comparatie ti-ai gasit, cuplu mare o lae, 1.9 D are un cuplu de 128 Nm, cam cat benzinarul romanesc de 1.6.
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Cata derptate poti sa ai nea' Argoane, eu cred ca(nu stiu sigur)F7P-ul are undeva in jur de 170-180Nm, ori cutia de dacie in normele de siguranta are 150Nm. Eu cred ca va rezista daca te comporti frumos cu motorul, daca ii dai scart la fiecare semafor, ori se rupe din prima, pori se duce cat-un dinte. Oricum incearca, si daca nu merge gandeste-te la altceva


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post 30 May 2011, 21:41
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defapt papucii au 118NM dieselu si 125NM benzinaru' de 1.6 .

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post 30 May 2011, 21:49
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daca-i asa cam mare diferenta de cuplu....totusi nu prea imi dau seama ce poate sa se rupa...priza "preia din motor spre pinioane"....aia de D e mai groasa,asa stiam eu dry.gif ....nu cred ca are ce sa pocneasca.....om vedea,da' nu prea are ce !!!


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post 30 May 2011, 22:19
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Nu va mai bateti capu` cu asa ceva,daca tot vreti sa discutati despre cupluri motor si cutii de viteze va rog nu la mine pe topic.Stiu cum am facut acea cutie de viteze si eu zic ca va rezista,asa ca,subiect inchis.Multumesc.


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