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post 30 Sep 2012, 10:48
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Va prezint o masina mai deosebita, la care visam mai de mult si care am reusit sa o achizitionez.
Masina este un renault 21, fabricatie 1987, motor 1995cmc, benzina turbo, 175cp de fabrica.
Este dotata din fabrica cu: abs, computer bord, inchidere centrala din telecomanda, servo, suspensie sport, kit tuning, discuri ventilate, geamuri si oglinzi electrice cu degivrare si multe altele.
Cat de curand masina intra in reconditionare complecta, ca la carte si sper sa o termin pana in primavara viitoare.
Am si o dilema legata de reconditionarea masinii, sa o refac stock ca de fabrica, sau sa o modific, incercand sa scot din ea tot ce se poate.
Am si o masina donatoare la care va atasez ceva poze, care deja e modificata la 210cp dar care mai merge dusa mult catre extrem.
Sper sa ma ajutati si voi cine se pricepe cu ceva opinii si idei legate de modificarea masinii.
Deocamdata ceva poze cu masina
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post 30 Sep 2012, 12:30
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Foarte bine intretinuta. wub.gif
Cu ceva vreme in urma intentionai sa le vinzi pe ambele.
Te-ai razgandit intre timp?

Referitor la modificare / lasata stock e o chestiune de gusturi.

Tu decizi.

Daca as fi in locul tau pe una as modifica-o si pe cealalta as tine-o stock.

Acum depinde de ce doresti tu in primul rand, cati bani vrei sa bagi in ea/ele samd.

Cred ca esti constient ca atat in cazul unei restaurari cat si in cazul modificarilor trebuie sa fi dispus sa scoti din buzunar cateva mii bune de euro.

Bafta cu ele in continuare! wink.gif


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post 30 Sep 2012, 16:15
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Nu e mai bine sa o lasi stock? Ma gandesc ca nu degeaba constructorul s-a "limitat" la 170 de cai care banuiesc ca sunt arhhisuficienti pe masina asta, nu?

Sportiva bine, nu cred ca iti sta cineva in fata daca te dai la ea


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post 30 Sep 2012, 16:38
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Poti scoate MULT mai mult din acel motor, sau mai simplu transplant.
Iata un exemplu:


Schimbi internele (pistoane forjate...), turbina mai mare, alt intercooler + traseu corespunzator, evacuare pe masura, soft si iese ceva frumos. wink.gif


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post 30 Sep 2012, 16:55
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Sfatul meu, stock look. Tuned engine.


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post 30 Sep 2012, 16:59
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Subscriu pt aceeasi viziune la care adaug upgrade frane si suspensii odata ce maresti puterea motorului. wink.gif


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post 30 Sep 2012, 19:07
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ceva in genul


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post 30 Sep 2012, 19:35
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Motorul de pe Superproduction dezvolta 430 CP la 8000 rot/min. wink.gif


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post 1 Oct 2012, 10:57
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foarte tare masina! e bunicuta milf'ei lui kum smile.gif)


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post 1 Oct 2012, 19:02
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Inima i-mi spune sa nu o dau.
Daca trec peste problemele financiare ramane sigur.
Stiu, costa mult reconditionatul masinii, daca ne gandim si la modificari pe performanta ajungem sus cu bugetul.
Cine cunoaste sa-mi spuna cat poate duce motorul acesta cu modificari la accesorii?
Daca internele raman aceleasi, ce modificari trebuie facute sa scoatem mai multi caluti si cam cati?
Stie cineva un motor asemanator modificat si ce anume s-a facut la el?
E adevarat ca sunt limitate din electronica motoarele?

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post 1 Oct 2012, 20:38
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Daca vrei informatii de la sursa (de piese) inscrie-te pe forumu' dedicat R 21 din tzara mama. wink.gif
Aici, cel mai in tema, adica omu' care a avut si a modificat e useru' adrian gtt.

Oricum ce au scos unii francezi din motoru de pe 21 Turbo nu stiu sa fii scos cineva la noi.

De Superproduction n-ai sa vezi oricum aici... laugh.gif

Fara interne schimbate nu sari la prea multi cai fata de stock.



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post 1 Oct 2012, 21:44
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Aha, deci la tine a ajuns cea rosie...eu vroiam sa o iau de piese, dupa ce m-am razgandit cu Quadra rosie de a ajuns la Cluj. Chiar am rugat un amic de la Constanta sa se duca sa o vada... Daca avea fata de Turbo o luam, ca doar de aia aveam nevoie pentru a mea.
Ideea este ca la masina asta cei 175 de cai au fost lasati la valoare asta din cauze structurale...caroseria nu tine atata putere, legenda spune ca unul din primele prototipuri ale acestui model, care scotea 220 de cai, era asa de brutal incat la peste 200 km/h se cascau usile din fata...
A mea din 1987 are motorul facut si modificat, stage 1, scoate 236 de cai doar din injectoare marite si pompa de benzina, la care s-a adaugat o presiune de 1,3 atm la turbina. Uite aici ce s-a schimbat pentru o preparare stage 2 de 335 de cai - http://www.puissance-injection.fr/projets-...yann-suite.html.
Parerea mea este sa o restaurezi stock si sa te bucuri de o viitoare masina de colectie, cu potential de retromobil...


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post 10 Nov 2012, 18:00
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astazi am montat fata originala a masinii.

stie cineva cu ce se poate exfolia vopseaua de pe masina, vreau sa o dau jos si nu stiu ce solutie ataca vopseaua sa o desprinda?

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post 10 Nov 2012, 18:09
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Pentru eliminare strat vopsea ai medota chimica si cea mecanica.
Chimica=decapant
Mecanica fara prea mare"deranj"=roto-perie de la spalator cu presiune sau sablare cu implicare mai mare a "deranjului"....

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post 10 Nov 2012, 18:11
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Superba masinuta , felicitari wub.gif


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post 10 Nov 2012, 18:58
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Ai decis sa o restaurezi, in final?


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post 5 Dec 2012, 17:54
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asa as vrea............


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post 5 Dec 2012, 20:19
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Daca vrei poti, spunea pe vremuri o reclama. tongue.gif
Sporuri atunci. wink.gif


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post 19 Dec 2012, 17:14
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La masina s-a mai lucrat putin.
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post 19 Dec 2012, 19:51
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Bravo!
Mai ai destul. wink.gif


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post 21 Dec 2012, 23:06
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salut
scuze de intrebare dar masina neinscrisa nu o vinzi sau dezmembrezi ???
ma intereseaza motorul sa il pun pe un 18
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post 23 Dec 2012, 11:58
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ai pm.

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Am inceput un proiect, fara sa deteliorez nimica din piesele originale ale masinii, ce e dat jos de pe masina e pus la pastrare pana reusesc sa adun finante pentru restaurare, sa vedem ce iese.
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post 23 Dec 2012, 12:32
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rat rod reno?

Daca tot vrei muzica in masina, renunta la toate placutele acelea de pe portiere, sau fixeaza-le pe un plexiglass, au sa zdrangane mai ceva ca la capra noua.

Cum faci incinta pentru boxe?


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post 24 Dec 2012, 14:27
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e mai mult o ocupare a timpului liber, nu vreau sa iasa nimic profi, vedem dupa ce pun muzica ce mai trebuie retusat din mers, daca dau de finante intra la restaurare.
E o un concept facut pentru a-mi ocupa timpul, daca iese ok, daca nu iara e bine atata timp cat investitia e minima si nu am ce pierde,

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post 27 Jan 2013, 14:06
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am mai lucrat cate ceva.
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post 27 Jan 2013, 14:55
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Volanul e un pic cam mult. Renunta la bobinajul din partea de sus.


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post 27 Jan 2013, 17:06
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Doar volanul şi se pare puşin cam mult?


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post 27 Jan 2013, 18:55
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Un lucru e cert, de pe acum, interiorul (cel putin) va fi unicat, in aceasta maniera tongue.gif ph34r.gif


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post 27 Jan 2013, 20:11
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Si totusi, fara niciun fel de mocheta in masina sau ceva insonorizant, mai au vre-un rost difuzoarele alea puse acolo?


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